After waiting patiently after the Master Journal Bundle 2.1+ came out - not a lot has happened.
Where was the frequent release programme we were expecting.
Shalom
2. Which journals did you sell in the past which are no longer licensed currently in FL and of them, which are you striving to license in the future?
1) Will you be able to get JETS back?
2) Masters Seminary Journal is not even close to being up to date. You sell up to volume 18 and they are currently on volume 28
Masters Seminary decided not to continue with Galaxie quite a few years ago. As far as I know nobody has any newer volumes than what we already have. MacArthur has his sermons and most of his books in Logos, so maybe they will change their position on this.
Remember Galaxie was only charging 50.00 for 50 volumes that's only one dollar per year per journal. When I talked to the person in charge of the journals some years ago he said it wasn't really worth it for so little income, and besides that, they already were putting them up for free on their website.
But I would hope we could get JETS since Galaxie has them right up to 2016
Thank you, Phil for the detailed reply. I hope it helps others. I have the Masters 2.1.
"Isreal my Glory" is not on your list. Wasn't it sold in the original TJL from Galaxie? Is there a possibility of getting this back?
On the list of journals you no longer are licensed to sell...when you say you are up to date, what exactly does that mean? None of the journals that I am aware of are up to date meaning 2017.
What is the plan? Finalize the list of journals we have a license to update and the volumes we're missing. Build out version-3 collections of our four journal bundles (i.e., Master, Academic, Theology, and TJL) by adding the missing journal volumes. Review the dynamic prices when coming from the version 1 and version 2 collections to make sure they're in line with customer expectations. Explore ways of licensing the TJL journals we're still missing (done in parallel with steps 1–3). Post the new bundles for pre-order.
What is the plan?
What I think that is missing in this plan is a focused commitment to adding value to our libraries by adding journals that are most frequently cited by our resources as David Paul has advocated for. I emphasize this as I have moved my journals to a competitor and if I can't have my favorite journal JETS on Logos the only thing that would entice me back is something akin to what I have outlined.
Which journals did you sell in the past which are no longer licensed currently in FL and of them, which are you striving to license in the future? Bible and Spade (we still sell, but can't bundle; we're up to date) Central Bible Quarterly (we still sell, but can't bundle; we're missing 2012–2016) Christian Apologetics Journal (we still sell, but can't bundle; we're missing 2012–2014) Emmaus Journal (we still sell, but can't bundle; we're missing 2011–2012) Faith and Mission (we still sell, but can't bundle; we're missing 2007–2008) Global Journal of Classical Theology (we still sell, but can't bundle; we're missing 2012–2017) Grace Journal (we still sell, but can't bundle; we're up to date) Grace Theological Journal (we still sell, but can't bundle; we're up to date) Journal for Baptist Theology & Ministry (new to Galaxie; we've never sold this) Journal of Christian Apologetics (we still sell, but can't bundle; we're up to date) Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society (we no longer sell) Journal of the Institute of Reformed Baptist Studies (new to Galaxie; we've never sold this) Masters Seminary Journal (we still sell, but can't bundle; we're up to date) Michigan Theological Journal (we still sell, but can't bundle; we're up to date) Reformation and Revival (we still sell, but can't bundle; we're up to date) Reformed Baptist Theological Review (we still sell, but can't bundle; we're missing 2011) Reformed Presbyterian Theological Journal (new to Galaxie; we've never sold this) Review and Expositor (we still sell, but can't bundle; Galaxie no longer sells this?) Southeastern Theological Review (we no longer sell this; we're missing 2012–2016) Trinity Journal (we still sell, but can't bundle; we're up to date)
Which journals did you sell in the past which are no longer licensed currently in FL and of them, which are you striving to license in the future?
As noted above JETS is a favorite of mine it and Bible and Spade are deal breakers. Focus your efforts on including affordable ways of including these in your resource offerings. Thanks for your update and the details you offer it is a necessary effort in repairing the breach of past failings please continue until you roll out your new package of resources.
No one has stepped out of bounds
Sorry, Everett, but I disagree. While most are able to engage in a respectful dialogue, a few emit a decidedly Veruca Salt - ish odor (and not just here but throughout the forums).
Did we lose EX AUDITU? I was really looking forward to future volumes.
Yes. We had to pull it out of the journal bundles earlier this year due to rights issues.
It's at the top of our list of TJL journals to get.
"Up to date" in my notes meant compared to Galaxie, not compared to the available issues.
Maybe. My memory is fuzzy on that. I'll have to investigate.
Sorry. I should have been clearer. "Up to date" in my notes meant compared to Galaxie, not compared to the available issues.
Thank you again, Phil. I am fuzzy on "Israel my glory" as well. I thought it was sold part of Galaxie package. I see they do not have it right now. Is there a chance of getting that in Logos?
Thanks too for clearing up what up to date means.
I agree. That's also important, but the sense I get from this thread is that the majority of people are more interested in our solving (1) updating existing journals and (2) adding the missing TJL journals first. So those are the two priorities we're aiming to address first. We're also looking into some of the major journals we've never had before, but that effort won't get as much attention until we've addressed the other issues. I'm happy to adjust these priorities if I've misunderstood what the majority of users want us to focus on.
Thanks for your update and the details you offer it is a necessary effort in repairing the breach of past failings please continue until you roll out your new package of resources.
Thanks for your feedback and patience.
the sense I get from this thread is that the majority of people are more interested in our solving (1) updating existing journals and (2) adding the missing TJL journals first. So those are the two priorities we're aiming to address first.
Phil
The sense you should get from this thread is that there is frustration that nothing has been done for quite a long time. Why wait? Continue pursuing licensing that you do not have. But while doing that, put out updated packages. If there is too much in a package, it will be too expensive in the first place. That is one of the problems that should be addressed. We went from $50 to hundreds of dollars. While the packages were great, and very low cost for what we received, it was too much for many. So why not have smaller packages. Why not have updated packages that do not include what you do not yet have licensed? What if it takes another year to get JETS? Does that mean this thread needs to continue for another year? Why not put something up...a package or several with some updates to the original 4 that is already offered?
Phil,
Thank you for all the clarification and updates. I think you have the priorities in the proper order right now.
Question, are we having rights issues for so many journals because Logos users are not willing to fund them at the appropriate price the publisher wants? Or is it because the rights of distribution have already been committed elsewhere and cannot easily be undone to allow licensing for Logos?
It's had to wrap my mind over why there has seemingly been so much resistance to allowing the journals we all want to be licensed.
1) Will you be able to get JETS back? It's at the top of our list of TJL journals to get. 2) Masters Seminary Journal is not even close to being up to date. You sell up to volume 18 and they are currently on volume 28 "Up to date" in my notes meant compared to Galaxie, not compared to the available issues.
Thank you Mr Gons. Is there a way to get MSJ into logos even if it is carried by Galaxie? You carry a lot of other MacArthur resources like sermons and books so I would think getting the ones online and converting them into logos functionality wouldn't be too difficult. Either way thank you for the reply sir
I think you have the priorities in the proper order right now.
I disagree.
the sense I get from this thread is that the majority of people are more interested in our solving (1) updating existing journals and (2) adding the missing TJL journals first.
Phil, Thanks for your reply you are being very generous with your time and attention. My reply is addressed at both yours and Bobby's comments. A simple analogy should suffice here. Consider that you've bought a house. You have a limited budget. Your kitchen and bathrooms are out dated. Where would you focus your limited budget. The analogy is served by considering that your item (2) is the bathrooms and your unnumbered, but important item (X) = journals that will bring most value to your library (the house) the kitchen is further down the list.
Which of these two options would you choose to undertake first. I understand that since there are many varied opinions represented here on the forums that a consensus must be reached and this for me is the critical issue here. Bobby is happy with going for option (2), and not alter the established priorities, but David and Beloved and would I be presuming, Phil? Would choose (X) as this increases the overall value of the house.
Please let's have a discussion on the plan as it will most certainly effect FL interests as well.
I am sure this idea won't fly and is no longer considered viable, but is it completely out of the question to go back to a relationship with Galaxie? The negatives were that the quality was not always up to Logos' ideal, but the same can be said for other Logos produced resources that don't have comprehensive tagging etc. The advantages of the Galaxie approach:
1) Regularity - didn't we get updates annually, like clockwork?
2) Logos resources freed up - Logos must be sweating this one big time, it is taking resources that could be used for other efforts. Many comment Logos is stretched thin. Is it really worth, in hindsight, bringing this project in house?
3) GREATLY IMPROVED customer satisfaction. Look at the complaints Logos has endured since this in-house project was first announced!
Galaxie works with other vendors, so this must have been an issue that stopped Logos from working with them that has not affected other relationships. How come? We can only guess, as Logos is not sharing, but Logos must be expecting/asking something that others are not. Given how the last few years have gone, and given customer dissatisfaction with this effort, is it really worth the effort? And how much complaining did Logos hear about the Galaxie offering compared to the dissatisfaction of the last 2-3 years, from when Logos first announced they were taking this in-house?
Despite it not being a perfect solution, I long for the Galaxie days. I think Logos would hear an overwhelming cheer to go back to Galaxie and put the resources to other efforts. Does anyone really think Logos will get to anywhere near the regularity of Galaxie in keeping journals updated, or will this be some herculean effort to get 2.2 out and we will not hear anything more for another 2 years? (TJL 1.2 come out July 1 2016, almost 15 months ago).
Come on Logos, please stop being stubborn. Stop thinking perfect world and think about your customers. Solve this problem once and for all through Galaxie and move the in-house effort to other well-deserved projects.
go back to a relationship with Galaxie
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Israel my Glory isn't in my Galaxie subscription, plus I have both the old TJL 1-15 and the original Master Journal Bundle 2.1. Israel my Glory isn't in my Logos library at all. So to my knowledge, it hasn't been offered yet.
For those who need JETS but not all the Galaxie journals, I'd recommend a JETS subscription ($15/year for students, $30/year for everyone else). http://www.etsjets.org It's a cost-effective way to have up-to-date access to JETS until it is back available in Logos (and more up-to-date).
Basically, I mostly use the Galaxie journals (as those are the ones my seminary required), although I have consulted regularly enough the journals offered in the Master Journal Bundle. I'd basically be interested in an "automatic purchase program". It'd be similar to a subscription, but if I ever had to cancel it, I wouldn't lose my existing journals I purchased. I'd only not get access to the new ones. I'd pay a decent fee each year to have access to frequently updated journals.
I am sure this idea won't fly and is no longer considered viable, but is it completely out of the question to go back to a relationship with Galaxie? The negatives were that the quality was not always up to Logos' ideal, but the same can be said for other Logos produced resources that don't have comprehensive tagging etc. The advantages of the Galaxie approach: 1) Regularity - didn't we get updates annually, like clockwork? 2) Logos resources freed up - Logos must be sweating this one big time, it is taking resources that could be used for other efforts. Many comment Logos is stretched thin. Is it really worth, in hindsight, bringing this project in house? 3) GREATLY IMPROVED customer satisfaction. Look at the complaints Logos has endured since this in-house project was first announced! Galaxie works with other vendors, so this must have been an issue that stopped Logos from working with them that has not affected other relationships. How come? We can only guess, as Logos is not sharing, but Logos must be expecting/asking something that others are not. Given how the last few years have gone, and given customer dissatisfaction with this effort, is it really worth the effort? And how much complaining did Logos hear about the Galaxie offering compared to the dissatisfaction of the last 2-3 years, from when Logos first announced they were taking this in-house? Despite it not being a perfect solution, I long for the Galaxie days. I think Logos would hear an overwhelming cheer to go back to Galaxie and put the resources to other efforts. Does anyone really think Logos will get to anywhere near the regularity of Galaxie in keeping journals updated, or will this be some herculean effort to get 2.2 out and we will not hear anything more for another 2 years? (TJL 1.2 come out July 1 2016, almost 15 months ago). Come on Logos, please stop being stubborn. Stop thinking perfect world and think about your customers. Solve this problem once and for all through Galaxie and move the in-house effort to other well-deserved projects.
From Galaxie's standpoint, the bridge has not been burned. They'd be happy to offer TJL 16-20 and ongoing updates.
I absolutely and entirely agree with this sentiment, and have felt this way since day one of the transition away from Galaxie.
Nathan,
I for one don't think it is in our best interest to go backwards. Galaxie had a limited number of journals that they offered, we have already exceeded in quantity what Galaxie offered. We need to fix what is broken and go forward. Under Type:Journal I have right now 2479 resources not counting "Israel My Glory". I believe Logos will turn this around.
I too loved Galaxie and they are the ones who paved the way and I'm grateful. But to get what we want, I believe the future is with Logos who has the power to pull it off.
I don't just want JETS and some updates, I want a broad theological spectrum of new journals available to me. I want sophisticated tagging to help me find what I need. I would like Logos to enhance and build upon the tagging they have already done. It seems we just got started and then we were derailed, but I'm hopeful for the future.
Nathan, I for one don't think it is in our best interest to go backwards. Galaxie had a limited number of journals that they offered, we have already exceeded in quantity what Galaxie offered. We need to fix what is broken and go forward. Under Type:Journal I have right now 2479 resources not counting "Israel My Glory". I believe Logos will turn this around. I too loved Galaxie and they are the ones who paved the way and I'm grateful. But to get what we want, I believe the future is with Logos who has the power to pull it off. I don't just want JETS and some updates, I want a broad theological spectrum of new journals available to me. I want sophisticated tagging to help me find what I need. I would like Logos to enhance and build upon the tagging they have already done. It seems we just got started and then we were derailed, but I'm hopeful for the future.
I'm not 100% suggesting going back to Galaxie, as the other journals offered in Logos in the Master Journal Bundle, etc., that are outside of Galaxie are beneficial as well.
However, there are some of us that are required to use the specific range of journals as offered by Galaxie (JETS, Bib Sac, etc.). Having access to TJL in Logos to get those specific journals back would be great, plus Logos continuing to work on other journal offerings in addition to TJL would be the icing on the cake as well.
I'm not 100% suggesting going back to Galaxie, as the other journals offered in Logos in the Master Journal Bundle, etc., that are outside of Galaxie are beneficial as well. However, there are some of us that are required to use the specific range of journals as offered by Galaxie (JETS, Bib Sac, etc.). Having access to TJL in Logos to get those specific journals back would be great, plus Logos continuing to work on other journal offerings in addition to TJL would be the icing on the cake as well.
Israel my Glory isn't in my Galaxie subscription, plus I have both the old TJL 1-15 and the original Master Journal Bundle 2.1. Israel my Glory isn't in my Logos library at all.
Thanks Nathan. I do have "Israel my Glory" in Logos...vol 47-59. It is really awesome to have them. I wish I could get them all.
I do not remember how I got them. I thought it was through Galaxie, but it must have been in the Libronix days. Not sure. I would love to get them back in Logos.
Phil, while many are frustrated, I am hoping this thread has been helpful. As someone mentioned, many of us have invested a lot and we want to see FL succeed and grow.
I am fuzzy on "Israel my glory" as well. I thought it was sold part of Galaxie package. I see they do not have it right now. Is there a chance of getting that in Logos?
Perhaps. We'll look into it as well.
Why wait? Continue pursuing licensing that you do not have. But while doing that, put out updated packages.
Why not have updated packages that do not include what you do not yet have licensed? What if it takes another year to get JETS? Does that mean this thread needs to continue for another year? Why not put something up...a package or several with some updates to the original 4 that is already offered?
That's the plan. We're moving ahead with building and posting updated bundles while exploring securing licenses for missing and new journals.
If there is too much in a package, it will be too expensive in the first place. That is one of the problems that should be addressed. We went from $50 to hundreds of dollars. While the packages were great, and very low cost for what we received, it was too much for many. So why not have smaller packages.
Having four different bundles is one way of addressing this. It was a problem before only because we had a lot of catching up to do. It shouldn't be an issue this time, but we'll definitely give the pricing careful consideration before posting the collections.
Question, are we having rights issues for so many journals because Logos users are not willing to fund them at the appropriate price the publisher wants? Or is it because the rights of distribution have already been committed elsewhere and cannot easily be undone to allow licensing for Logos? It's had to wrap my mind over why there has seemingly been so much resistance to allowing the journals we all want to be licensed.
There's no one explanation. Sometimes there's an exclusive agreement. Other times we can't find the right person, or there isn't someone who has the time to invest into the process of licensing, locating files or print, etc. In some cases there are no source files available. It's a variety of reasons. We'll keep working to get the journals you all want to see.
Is there a way to get MSJ into logos even if it is carried by Galaxie?
We have it available already, distributed from Galaxie. It's up to date with what Galaxie offers.
I don't think we fundamentally disagree. We're working on all three in parallel. We'll just be working to ship updates first, while securing rights to missing TJL journals and going after popular new journals. We won't hold this next round of updates for the journals we need to license. Those will come with the next round or two of updates as we secure the licenses and get the files.
is it completely out of the question to go back to a relationship with Galaxie?
No. We already sell all the Galaxie journals that were included in TJL when we carried it (except for JETS and Southeastern Theological Review). (Since then they've added Reformed Presbyterian Theological Journal, Journal of the Institute of Reformed Baptist Studies, and Journal for Baptist Theology & Ministry.) We don't have bundling rights, and we're not getting updates. It's possible that we could secure bundling rights and resume getting updates for the journals we're missing. We'd have to explore that.
I want sophisticated tagging to help me find what I need. I would like Logos to enhance and build upon the tagging they have already done. It seems we just got started and then we were derailed, but I'm hopeful for the future.
I'd love to hear more of what you have in mind.
However, there are some of us that are required to use the specific range of journals as offered by Galaxie (JETS, Bib Sac, etc.).
We do have Bibliotheca Sacra. It's included in TJL Upgrade, Theology, and Master.
If I remember correctly, Friends of Israel Ministries used to sell three products in the Libronix days:
I'm not sure how open they'd be to bringing them back, but it can't hurt to reach out. Yesterday's no might be tomorrow's yes.
It has. Thanks for caring enough to share your frustrations and concerns, and for extending us some grace when we've not lived up to your expectations.
Is this Israel my Glory that people are asking about?
http://magazine.foi.org/
Thanks Phil for the info. I have Master 2.1 and the old TJL 1-15, so I have all the main journal bundles you offer currently and can't wait to get more. :-)
Is this Israel my Glory that people are asking about? http://magazine.foi.org/
No! This is the one I'm referencing:
http://www.foi.org/forms/free-one-year-israel-my-glory-subscription/
The firings are still a thing that bothers me. I have spent maybe 300$ (probably less than that actually) that i hadn't already agreed to pay since that happened. The year prior I spent like 6 or 7k?
Same here. From thousands to pennies--mostly just a few of the Free Plus One offerings. The only significant purchase I've made in the last couple of years was this month due to Zondervan's willingness to offer dynamic pricing. I decided to break my boycott of Z and get the Counterpoints collection. I may get the Dictionary of Theology & Exegesis also...tomorrow is the last day. After that, probably back to watching and waiting.
Israel my Glory was not a Galaxie title. It was a stand alone set purchasable from FL in the distant past.
Thank you again, Phil. I am fuzzy on "Israel my glory" as well. I thought it was sold part of Galaxie package. I see they do not have it right now. Is there a chance of getting that in Logos? Thanks too for clearing up what up to date means.
Well said Everet, to lie to FL about our satisfacton with what they have done with journals is not love. If we lie like some would like so they can feel comfortable we will only get more of the same from them. It is only by honest direct communication about how they have let us down will they get the message.
I'm not an MVP or a Faithlife employee but I'm very uncomfortable with some of the posts here. I wonder if this discussion has gone on for long enough. I understand the need to vent but if we keep attacking and targeting the employees from Faithlife who are brave enough to stick their heads above the parapet, honest enough to admit mistakes and humble enough to apologise they'll hardly want to return to engage with us. We're right to want to hold this company which has Christian values accountable but we need to remember the rule of love ourselves. Colin, this discussion has lingered for years. It has done so because of the numerous promises and implications made directly by Logos representatives. Those promises have gone unfilled, multiple times. You may be uncomfortable, but there needs to be accountability for what has taken place. They have an obligation to return and engage with us. We have paid for software and liscineing with the agreement that more is coming. Yet that has not happened. This breach of verbal contract is simply not acceptable. At no point in this recent conversation has any Logos user not acted in accordance with the rule of love. Accountability is usually not warm and fuzzy. That does not mean that it is hateful and mean-spirited. If we did not want Logos to succeed we would have given up YEARS ago and pointed our money to some other software. What simply needs to happen is for Logos to clearly, timely, and completely communicate with us about the status of the journals promised to us. (Frankly, I grow weary of posts like this when we hold Logos accountable. This is how we are to air this grievances about Logos, per Logos. I have yet to see why this is wrong or uncomfortable in some eyes. No one has stepped out of bounds, allow us to have this dialogue.)
I'm not an MVP or a Faithlife employee but I'm very uncomfortable with some of the posts here. I wonder if this discussion has gone on for long enough. I understand the need to vent but if we keep attacking and targeting the employees from Faithlife who are brave enough to stick their heads above the parapet, honest enough to admit mistakes and humble enough to apologise they'll hardly want to return to engage with us. We're right to want to hold this company which has Christian values accountable but we need to remember the rule of love ourselves.
Colin, this discussion has lingered for years. It has done so because of the numerous promises and implications made directly by Logos representatives. Those promises have gone unfilled, multiple times. You may be uncomfortable, but there needs to be accountability for what has taken place. They have an obligation to return and engage with us. We have paid for software and liscineing with the agreement that more is coming. Yet that has not happened. This breach of verbal contract is simply not acceptable. At no point in this recent conversation has any Logos user not acted in accordance with the rule of love. Accountability is usually not warm and fuzzy. That does not mean that it is hateful and mean-spirited. If we did not want Logos to succeed we would have given up YEARS ago and pointed our money to some other software. What simply needs to happen is for Logos to clearly, timely, and completely communicate with us about the status of the journals promised to us.
(Frankly, I grow weary of posts like this when we hold Logos accountable. This is how we are to air this grievances about Logos, per Logos. I have yet to see why this is wrong or uncomfortable in some eyes. No one has stepped out of bounds, allow us to have this dialogue.)
Is there a way to get MSJ into logos even if it is carried by Galaxie? We have it available already, distributed from Galaxie. It's up to date with what Galaxie offers.
Mr Gons... I'm sorry but I should have been more clear. What I meant to ask is even though the later MSJ issues aren't in galaxie, would there be a way to get them into logos via another process. I know they are free online via a PDF but tagged logos versions would her better.
Is this Israel my Glory that people are asking about? http://magazine.foi.org/ No! This is the one I'm referencing: http://www.foi.org/forms/free-one-year-israel-my-glory-subscription/
These are both the same. Nathan, your link referenced the latest magazine which has been very helpful on the topic of Millennials
Is there a way to get MSJ into logos even if it is carried by Galaxie? We have it available already, distributed from Galaxie. It's up to date with what Galaxie offers. Mr Gons... I'm sorry but I should have been more clear. What I meant to ask is even though the later MSJ issues aren't in galaxie, would there be a way to get them into logos via another process. I know they are free online via a PDF but tagged logos versions would her better.
Possibly. We're investigating.
Mea culpa Nathan.
Thanks for the clarification Mark.
I'll post again toward the end of the week and give another update. We appreciate your efforts to keep us accountable and that you care so much about these journals!
As Phil has said we're working on updates for the four journal bundles. The first is going to be an update with new volumes for the Theological Journals Library.
We will have new volumes of the following journal titles, based on what we currently have licenses and files for:
Bibliotheca Sacra JournalBulletin for Biblical ResearchChafer Theological Seminary JournalConspectus: The Journal of the South African Theological SeminaryDetroit Baptist Seminary JournalJournal for Biblical Manhood and WomanhoodJournal for the Evangelical Study of the Old TestamentJournal of Biblical and Pneumatological ResearchJournal of Discipleship and Family MinistryJournal of the Grace Evangelical SocietyJournal of Theological InterpretationPriscilla PapersPuritan Reformed JournalSyndicate JournalThe ChurchmanThe Southern Baptist Journal of TheologyThemeliosTyndale BulletinWestminster Theological Journal
The TJL update will be ready and post in October/November. We don't want to wait on getting the TJL update out to you on account of any current licensing limitations.
Thanks for the discussion. I wanted to throw in some additional comments on this:
1. Thanks for the info on Israel my Glory. I'll take the free trial and see if this is worth an annual subscription to. If it becomes available in Logos or in a bundle in Logos in the future, I might be interested in it.
2. I visited the Logos.com journals section of the store. Seems there were a few Themelios journals I was missing (I got the codes to make my upgrades free). I saw a couple other journals on prepub I may be interested in.
3. Thanks for the list of TJL journals above. I'd be interested in those plus JETS once you re-secure JETS.
4. Can someone send me the link to the online versions of Master's Seminary journal? I'll bookmark it and use it to access the latest versions until progress is made on the Logos front. Now that I use Nota Bene for citations, citations from online sources are less painful, although searching Logos editions is still more luxurious than searching online sources.
5. Another journal I'd be interested in is up-to-date access to JBL and RBL. I have what Logos currently offers on those. I also have access to JBL and RBL in my SBL membership, but having those in Logos would be nice.
6. I do thank Phil, Mike, etc., for jumping into this conversation. I do want to make a suggestion for the future. It is time for Faithlife to invest in hiring a Chief Communications Director who can take the agenda and roadmap of Bob, marketing, etc., and clearly articulate it to the customer base. Time and time again, Faithlife has had issues with communication that has resulted in some heat on these forums (Journals, Encyclopedia Britannica, Logos Now, Logos Cloud, pretty much every major Logos release, etc.). Faithlife has likely lost enough productivity due to these and other communications issues. It is time that Faithlife puts someone in charge of making communications of the Faithlife roadmap and agenda clear to customers. For example, with every major Logos release, it has been confusing to understand how to upgrade (and it wasn't much better with Logos 7 and Logos Now). Even though every Logos user's library is different, and even though I know nothing about the next major release of Logos, I could already draft up an upgrade announcement concerning the next major release of Logos that would be so crystal clear to customers that customers would have zero issues upgrading to the next major release of Logos on day one. It is simply a matter of articulating the message in a way that customers understand, and the added benefit is the Faithlife teams can spend more time focusing on building better products for customers and less time dealing with the fallout of upset customers who haven't been given clear information about Faithlife's latest roadmap and agenda. I even know of a way to dramatically streamline the marketing of Faithlife's library-based products, although it is a somewhat radical and possibly too much for the Faithlife team to handle (because all you need is one).
https://www.tms.edu/msj/
4. Can someone send me the link to the online versions of Master's Seminary journal? I'll bookmark it and use it to access the latest versions until progress is made on the Logos front. Now that I use Nota Bene for citations, citations from online sources are less painful, although searching Logos editions is still more luxurious than searching online sources. https://www.tms.edu/msj/
Thanks. I bookmarked this.
I have the annual subscription and really enjoy it. But I much prefer it in Logos.
I do thank Phil, Mike, etc., for jumping into this conversation.
I also want to thank Phil and Mike, but everyone else for their contributions. This is what I like about the forums.
We don't have bundling rights, and we're not getting updates. It's possible that we could secure bundling rights and resume getting updates for the journals we're missing. We'd have to explore that.
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I agree. I also get the print version of Israel My Glory but prefer it in the Logos format. I have everything they sold and they are high quality and worth the money. It would be nice if Logos could pick up the issues where Friends of Israel left off.
Thanks for the comment Mark - I just found it very informative!
Thank you Phil for the updates. It is my sincere hope that this level of communication continues and does not die off in a month or two.
For me, what I would like is the most recent journals (not just matched with Galaxie) made available. It is the last quarter of 2017, is it too much to think that we could have the first half of the year already in Logos. Maybe prepay for the year (Ex: I'd pay $50 now to know that all the editions of X journals will be put in my library when they are made available throughout the year). Themelios is able to offer their journal at nearly the same time as its public release.
And for simplicity, I would like to go back to single journal years at a lower price. I need the current scholarship now. I do not need (but still want) two and three year old journals.
