Completely Lost on Appeal of Tabbed Reading

Tom Smith
Tom Smith Member Posts: 24 ✭✭
edited November 21 in English Forum

Old way: come across Bible passage, swipe up on it and it brings up menu to choose Passage Guide, which then splits same screen and you have all the passage guides relative to that verse.  You can hit them sequentially and read them in same screen, easy-peasy. 

New way: come across Bible passage, go up to upper right and hit button, then choose Passage Guide which opens to new tab.  Then you choose a link in Passage Guide and it opens up a new tab as well.  Now you have multiple tabs to keep track of and anytime you want to change between them you have to hit another button (the tab button at bottom).  Once you read one resource,  you hit tab button, scroll through to find the Passage Guide again, hit another link for another resource, that opens in another screen, and you read it, then hit the tab button, go back and find your Passage Guide, hit the next link on it... Wow.  You gotta be kidding me. 

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  • Yea, even the web app is better. I wonder if they are trying to drive to that. 

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,480

    Yea, even the web app is better.

    In the case as described, the old way is better. For reading multiple books at once, the new method is much better (imo). 

    I wonder if they are trying to drive to that.

    What do you mean? Why would they be "driving" people to the web app? [:^)]

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  • Ben
    Ben Member Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭

    I absolutely love the new tabs. But I don't use the passage guide on my tablet. 

    "The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected."- G.K. Chesterton

  • Nord Zootman
    Nord Zootman Member Posts: 596 ✭✭

    I have enjoyed the new tab view, but I primarily use my Ipad as a reader. You can swipe sideways to go between tabs.

  • Stuart S
    Stuart S Member Posts: 48

    Can’t swipe sideways to go between tabs if you don’t have scrolling view turned on. And I personally don’t like scrolling view.

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,480

    Can’t swipe sideways to go between tabs if you don’t have scrolling view turned on.

    Incorrect. You use two fingers instead of one. 

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  • NJ Swart
    NJ Swart Member Posts: 5

    Morning guys, quite overwhelmed with the new upgrade on my Ipad. 

    How do I remove the split screen? (I get the new tab concept, but my main screen is split)

    Have books at the top - OK and happy with that,

    Have the passage guide the bottom.... quite irretating to read like that.

    Or is the idea that I put the bookI am reading in a tab?

    blessings from Sunny South Africa.

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,462

    Morning NJ

    To remove a split screen, go into the tab management screen and tap the “x” in the part of the split you want to remove

    Graham

  • Shane Yancey
    Shane Yancey Member Posts: 8

    That’s awesome. Makes tabs much better 

    now do you know how to bring back the old function where you could swipe up to access the little menus that had the add a note option. That note was  always defaulted to add not to reference and it was the primary way I took notes while reading. Is that function just gone? 

  • Mr. Criddle,

    Is there a way, or are there plans, to synchronize the tabs between iPhone and iPad? Right now, I have to use iBooks to read my Bible because the bookmark feature uses iOS "Handoff" to sync across devices.  But I'd much rather use the new tabbed feature on Logos mobile where I have 7 tabs open; instead of using 7 bookmarks on iBooks. I just need them to sync across devices. Any idea if that's an option or will be an option anytime soon?

  • Mike Binks
    Mike Binks MVP Posts: 7,431

    Mr. Criddle,

    Is there a way, or are there plans, to synchronize the tabs between iPhone and iPad? Right now, I have to use iBooks to read my Bible because the bookmark feature uses iOS "Handoff" to sync across devices.  But I'd much rather use the new tabbed feature on Logos mobile where I have 7 tabs open; instead of using 7 bookmarks on iBooks. I just need them to sync across devices. Any idea if that's an option or will be an option anytime soon?

    Hi Chirstopher

    Neither Mr Criddle nor I are actually employees of Faithlife so we have no insight into their long term plans. We are volunteers who try and help out fellow users with their operational problems.

    As to syncing between devices. While you and others want to swap between and iPhone and iPad and even Desktop and find all your resources in the same state others would be horrified at the concept.

    The 'others' are those who for instance read on the iPad, follow sermons on their iPhone and prepare next weeks teaching on their desktop/laptop. For them having tabs sync would be a major disruption to their workflow.

    One of the other volunteers has been punting the concept of 'Projects' for years to no avail. If Faithlife were to take up his idea then this would solve both problems, you would simply sync the Reading Project, the Study Project and the Preparation Project and open whichever was relevant to the use you wanted to make of the program at the time.

    tootle pip

    Mike

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  • The “Projects” idea sounds great! Two birds, one stone. Is there a way to petition Faithlife to do this? Do they listen to their customers at all in project development?

  • Kevin A. Purcell
    Kevin A. Purcell Member Posts: 3,405 ✭✭✭

    Is there a way, or are there plans, to synchronize the tabs between iPhone and iPad?

    Someone suggested this in another thread and I said it should happen that way and then someone else said it should not, so unfortunately, this is a complex idea because we users are not in agreement on how this should work. To add a user selectable option is probably more complicated that the already over burdened programmers are as they labor to add all they’ve promiosed but haven’t yet delivered. So I‘m not holding my breath, but I would absolutely love to see it.

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  • Quite enjoying the new look. However, I can't work out how to sync the windows in a split screen. (You used to do it by pressing the button at the bottom of the  split.) Has the feature been removed? (If so, can we have it back!) If not, how do I do it?

  • Tony Garland
    Tony Garland Member Posts: 64 ✭✭

    After having removed the second resource in a split tab as described (thanks), I’m now having trouble figuring out how to split a single tab again the way it was before.  Can’t seem to see how to accomplish the old split view again (within one tab).  Also: it it possible to ever have two splits within a single tab?

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    After having removed the second resource in a split tab as described (thanks), I’m now having trouble figuring out how to split a single tab again the way it was before.  Can’t seem to see how to accomplish the old split view again (within one tab).  Also: it it possible to ever have two splits within a single tab?

    In the "tab" panel (the one where you can see all your tabs), you'll see there's a split view icon at the top of each tab. Just tap that, and you can add a second resource to that tab.

    It's also worth noting the presence of the "link" icon at the bottom left of this screen, where you can link resources so they scroll together.

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  • Joe Mayden
    Joe Mayden Member Posts: 309 ✭✭

    I appreciate the upgrade although like others on this thread I have some struggles feeling things out.  I get frustrated when that happens, then realize I am 71 and much of the learning in software is trial an error.  Something I didn't grow up with.  It is like a learning curve.  

    I also have to remember I am on an iPad not a laptop or desktop.  Sometimes I find myself frustrated because the iPad doesn't do all that a laptop does or as fast.  You can't expect a four cylinder car to go as fast and pull as much as an 8 cylinder Ford F150.  

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 13,421 ✭✭✭

    You can't expect a four cylinder car to go as fast and pull as much as an 8 cylinder Ford F150.

    I sure hope you meant a 'V' eight. That's the only engine that really belongs in a pickup.

    Most of my ios apps these days have little intro screens showing new changes. I don't think it's because you're so young.

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  • Benjamin Varghese
    Benjamin Varghese Member Posts: 149 ✭✭

    FaithLife should consider adding a setting in the mobile app which would let the user choose between single versus multiple tabs.

    In case of a single tab only  a setting should  allow a resource for example a bible  to be locked in a given split.

     

  • Joe Mayden
    Joe Mayden Member Posts: 309 ✭✭

    That is correct V 8 - 

    I have a sixteen year old, he never reads instructions, he just figures it out, or asks someone.  I value Logos forum!

  • Tony Garland
    Tony Garland Member Posts: 64 ✭✭

    In the "tab" panel (the one where you can see all your tabs), you'll see there's a split view icon at the top of each tab. Just tap that, and you can add a second resource to that tab.

    It's also worth noting the presence of the "link" icon at the bottom left of this screen, where you can link resources so they scroll together.

    Thanks so much Mark!  You got me past my "DOH" moment ;-)  I figured there had to be a way somehow, and although I did see the small icon on the upper right corner of each tab in the tab panel, I figured it was just a graphic representation of a similar control you can see when the tab is viewed on its own.

    I do want to say how much the tab-based changes to Logos have vastly improved my use of the product on the iPad. I'm now extremely close to what I would consider ideal for much of my use at church based on three chained tabs (left tab containing BHS with critical apparatus as split, center containing primary English translation bible with NTSK as split, right tab containing NA27 GNT plus apparatus as split).  I can now move around between OT and NT and have the original language text + apparatus travel with me and access it by a single swipe left or right (depending on which testament I'm in).  AMAZING and an enormously helpful upgrade from my standpoint.

  • Jim Pierce
    Jim Pierce Member Posts: 13

    'use two fingers': I never knew this after watching and reading all the training material. How is someone supposed to knwo about 2 finger swiping?

    (Thanks, though; I, too, prefer the horizontal scrolling.)

  • Tom Smith
    Tom Smith Member Posts: 24 ✭✭

    Amen! I had no clue on the two finger usage except via here in this thread. Definitely a game changer.