A friend of mine just had a book published in this series, and it made me wonder whether Logos carries any of them yet, so that I could suggest you add hers. Lo and behold, I found out you don't have any of them yet. It's high time you add them. They've been a great long-running series, with new titles still coming out. Lots of well-respected authors. Great for small groups to use. And they'd be very helpful to have in Logos format with all the Scripture references easy to follow-up on in the rest of your Library, and with fill-in fields for answers.
Here's the newest one, by my friend:
And here are others in the series:
Would be nice to see them in Logos. Have been heavily entrenched in bible software provided by a different vendor for a long time so wonder if there is an exclusive arrangement with them. But hope not.
Isn't this a series that was in the old Lesson software?
Have been heavily entrenched in bible software provided by a different vendor for a long time so wonder if there is an exclusive arrangement with them. But hope not.
I did not know that. Turns out you can get ALL the OT and NT volumes of this series (total of 35) from that other vendor for $39.95. I dare Logos to match that price if they ever manage to get the rights for this series. I doubt they would. But I'd still pay perhaps almost twice that much to have these in Logos.
Isn't this a series that was in the old Lesson software? Yes, and we have been asking its return for a decade
What was the old "Lesson" software? Was it a Logos thing? It must have been during the era that I wasn't using Logos much, as I've been a Logos owner from before it was even established a company (when Bob and his friend/co-founder Kiernon were just working on this project in their spare time while employed at Microsoft), but I don't remember this.
LesssonBuilder was a Logos product that Mo was still selling on the side when L4 was released. I think I still have it on a XP machine. Its one of those products that was close to what the market wanted but rather than perfecting it, it was dropped. At least that's my memory of it; Bob likely has a very different version
See http://www.amazon.com/Logos-Lesson-Builder-Bible-Leaders/dp/1577992032
http://community.logos.com/forums/t/28010.aspx
The other software company had a similar lesson maker product that made it to version 8 but no longer appears to be available. If that's the case it's only a fairly recent demise (last few years). Handouts were supposed to be the new Lesson Builder On the fly, but failed badly in meeting users needs.
Hi Rosie,
in which other software is it available? I haven't found it... I really would love to use it digitally. It's sad that it is not available in Logos...
Hi Rosie, in which other software is it available? I haven't found it... I really would love to use it digitally. It's sad that it is not available in Logos...
Marc, these (at least a bundle of them) are available in a competing Bible study software, Wordsearch. Years ago IVP had its own stand-alone program in which some of these titles were available. It is long gone, just as the Logos Lesson Builder software mentioned here is gone.
If you just want the text without the option to fill anything in, there are ways to convert .pfds into MS Word .docx files that can be imported into Logos via the Personal Book Builder tool. (IVP offers .pdfs of at least some of these books.) They would not be tagged (unless you add the tagging in MS Word) so would have limited functionality, but you could read, annotate, and highlight them.
Otherwise it seems Wordsearch is the only other option.
WORDsearch 11 has a built-in LESSONmaker module.
Welcome to the forums. The Sermon editor is proving to work decently as a lesson builder in Logos/Verbum for me. I had owned the old Logos Lesson building product.
A friend of mine just had a book published in this series, and it made me wonder whether Logos carries any of them yet, so that I could suggest you add hers. Lo and behold, I found out you don't have any of them yet. It's high time you add them. They've been a great long-running series, with new titles still coming out. Lots of well-respected authors. Great for small groups to use. And they'd be very helpful to have in Logos format with all the Scripture references easy to follow-up on in the rest of your Library, and with fill-in fields for answers. Here's the newest one, by my friend: Resurrection: Living as People of the Risen Lord by Kristie Berglund And here are others in the series: How to Lead a LifeGuide® Bible Study by Cindy Bunch and Jack Kuhatschek Starting and Ending a Small Group by Dan Williams Leading Bible Discussions by James F. Nyquist and Jack Kuhatschek Small Group Starter Kit by Jeffrey Arnold The Story of Scripture: The Unfolding Drama of the Bible by Robbie Fox Castleman God's Word: Power to Shape Our Lives by Cindy Bunch Genesis: God's Creative Call by Charles E. Hummel and Anne Hummel Exodus: Learning to Trust God by James W. Reapsome The Ten Commandments by Rob Suggs Deuteronomy: Becoming Holy People by Stephen D. Eyre Joshua: The Power of God's Promises by Donald Baker Judges: Returning to God by Donald Baker Old Testament Kings by Carolyn Nystrom Nehemiah: The Courage to Face Opposition by Don Fields Esther: Character Under Pressure by Patty Pell Job: Wrestling With God by Paul Stevens Psalms: Prayers of the Heart by Eugene H. Peterson Psalms II: Heart Cries to God by Juanita Ryan The 23rd Psalm: The Lord, Our Shepherd by Juanita Ryan Proverbs: Learning to Live Wisely by William Mouser Jr. Ecclesiastes by Bill Syrios and Teresa Syrios Isaiah: Trusting God in Troubled Times by Howard Peskett Jeremiah: Demanding Love by Stephen D. Eyre Daniel: Spiritual Living in a Secular World by Douglas Connelly Hosea: God's Persistent Love by Dale Larsen and Sandy Larsen Jonah, Joel & Amos by Doug Haugen and Doris Haugen Sermon on the Mount by John Stott Matthew: Being Discipled by Jesus by Stephen D. Eyre and Jacalyn Eyre Mark: Follow Me by James Hoover Luke: New Hope, New Joy by Ada Lum Parables: The Greatest Stories Ever Told by John White John: The Way to True Life by Douglas Connelly Acts: Seeing God's Power in Action by Phyllis J. Le Peau Romans: Becoming New in Christ by Jack Kuhatschek 1 Corinthians: The Challenges of Life Together by Paul Stevens and Dan Williams 2 Corinthians: Finding Strength in Weakness by Paul Stevens Galatians: Why God Accepts Us by Jack Kuhatschek Ephesians: Wholeness for a Broken World by Andrew T. Le Peau and Phyllis J. Le Peau Philippians: Jesus Our Joy by Donald Baker Colossians & Philemon by Martha Reapsome 1 & 2 Thessalonians: How Can I Be Sure? by Donald Baker 1 & 2 Timothy and Titus: Do What You Have Heard by Pete Sommer Hebrews: Race to Glory by James Reapsome James: Faith That Works by Andrew T. Le Peau and Phyllis J. Le Peau Paul: His Life and Teaching by Jack Kuhatschek 1 & 2 Peter and Jude by Carolyn Nystrom John's Letters: Discovering Genuine Christianity by Ron Blankley Revelation: The Triumph of God by R. Paul Stevens Old Testament Characters by Peter Scazzero Abraham: Hearing God's Call by Jack Kuhatschek Joseph: How God Builds Character by Paul Borthwick Moses: Calling and Character by Stephen D. Eyre David: Developing a Heart for God by Jack Kuhatschek Elijah: Living Securely in an Insecure World by Douglas Connelly New Testament Characters by Carolyn Nystrom Mary by Douglas Connelly and Karen Connelly Peter: Learning to Be Like Jesus by Robbie Fox Castleman Heroes of Faith by Douglas Connelly Women of the Old Testament by Gladys Hunt Women of the New Testament by Phyllis J. Le Peau Couples of the Old Testament by Dale Larsen and Sandy Larsen Christian Beliefs by Stephen Eyre Meeting God by J. I. Packer Images of God by Dale Larsen and Sandy Larsen Names of God: Glimpses of His Character by Douglas Connelly The Kingdom of God by Greg Jao God's Comfort by Jack Kuhatschek Pleasing God by Jack Kuhatschek God's Love: Knowing God Through the Psalms by Ruth Ann Ridley Distorted Images of God: Restoring Our Vision by Dale Ryan and Juanita Ryan Meeting Jesus by Leighton Ford Images of Christ by Dale Larsen and Sandy Larsen Following Jesus by Douglas Connelly I Am: Discovering Who Jesus Is by Douglas Connelly Jesus the Reason by James W. Sire Jesus' Final Week by Cindy Bunch The Cross by John Stott, Dale Larsen and Sandy Larsen Encountering Jesus by Douglas Connelly Abiding in Christ by J. I. Packer and Carolyn Nystrom Advent of the Savior by Cindy Bunch Meeting the Spirit by Douglas Connelly Images of the Spirit by Dale Larsen and Sandy Larsen Angels by Douglas Connelly Christian Character by Andrea Sterk and Peter Scazzero Christian Community by Rob Suggs Christian Disciplines by Andrea Sterk and Peter Scazzero Christian Leadership by John Stott and Carolyn Nystrom Christian Virtues by Cindy Bunch Distorted Images of Self: Restoring Our Vision by Dale Ryan and Juanita Ryan End Times: Practical Heavenly Mindedness by R. Paul Stevens Evangelism: A Way of Life by Rebecca Manley Pippert and Ruth Siemens Faith: Depending on God by Dale Larsen and Sandy Larsen Forgiveness: Making Peace with the Past by Douglas Connelly Four Great Loves by Judith Allen Shelly Friendship: Growing Side by Side by Carolyn Nystrom Fruit of the Spirit by Hazel Offner Good & Evil by Douglas Connelly Grief: God's Help in Times of Sorrow by Cathy Gardner Maddams and James W. Reapsome Growing Older & Wiser by Dale Larsen and Sandy Larsen Heaven: Finding Our True Home by Douglas Connelly Hope: Your Heart's Deepest Longings by Jack Kuhatschek Hospitality: God's Call to Compassion by Patty Pell Integrity: Living the Truth by Carolyn Nystrom Love: The Greatest Gift of All by Phyllis J. Le Peau Loving Justice by Bob Hunter and Carol Hunter Marriage: God's Design for Intimacy by James W. Reapsome and Martha Reapsome Miracles: Signs of God's Glory by Douglas Connelly Missions: God's Heart for the World by Paul Borthwick Money & Work by Carolyn Nystrom Motherhood: Being Grounded in Christ by Patty Pell Parenting: Loving Our Children with God's Love by Richard Patterson Jr. Prayer: An Adventure with God David Healey Prayers of the New Testament by Lynne M. Baab Prayers of the Old Testament by Lynne M. Baab Praying the Psalms by Juanita Ryan Sabbath: The Gift of Rest by Lynne M. Baab Self-Esteem: Seeing Ourselves as God Sees Us by Jack Kuhatschek Singleness: A Life Grounded in Love by Ruth Goring Spiritual Gifts by R. Paul Stevens Spiritual Gifts: Building the Body of Christ by Charles Hummel and Anne Hummel Spiritual Warfare by Jack Kuhatschek Suffering: Receiving God's Comfort by Jack Kuhatschek The Lord's Prayer by Douglas Connelly Waiting for God by Juanita Ryan Woman of God by Cindy Bunch Worship: His Love Endures Forever by Sundee Tucker Frazier
In case you missed it, we have the LifeGuide Bible Studies on Pre-Pub.
Phil,
What happens to the license for a number of these that were purchased from Logos as addon's to the old Lesson program?
A bit too pricey for me even on prepub.
Our license for use in Lesson Builder didn't carry over to Logos, so we have a new contract and license for that. While we aren't able to offer dynamic pricing if you owned them in Lesson Builder, we might be able to do something special for you if you want to reach out.
The current price works out to be $2.89 each for the 138 volumes. The average volume on Amazon costs ~$8, so it's a pretty significant discount. But I understand that $400 is a lot of money. We do have smaller collections that might be of interest if you want to try some of the content without committing to the full $400.
Thanks, I will do that.
Best,
If you are interested in this or similar series, consider adding your comments and ideas to https://community.logos.com/forums/p/158945/952527.aspx#952527
