Logos for Children

Devotionals and Kids Dictionary on Ebooks: https://ebooks.faithlife.com/search?query=kids+bible 

Some more from Faithlife eBooks:

https://ebooks.faithlife.com/products/30730/the-action-bible

https://ebooks.faithlife.com/products/128079/cold-case-christianity-for-kids

Lee Strobel's "Case for … for Kids" series. https://ebooks.faithlife.com/search?context=product&sortBy=relevance&limit=60&page=1&filters=Strobel%2C%20Lee%3A10247_Author

Most if not all of the mentioned ebooks are regularly on sale for $0.99. Just grab and gift them at the right time :-)

Genghis said:

Do forum members have any resource (like a study bible, commentary or bible dictionary) recommendations for 7, 10, 12 and 14 year olds?  Thanks in advance.

I have a 15 year old using Logos Basic. I had to purchase William MacDonald's Believer's Bible Commentary for him.  I think it is very helpful for children.  He wanted particular Bibles (NET and NKJV).  He is involved with the National Bible Bee and memorizes a lot of Scripture as well as studies the Bible.  I have a 17 year old who also does this.  Both have basic, but it would be good to see a children's packet or a list of resources perhaps here on this thread that can be put together for children.

I know both my children have been won over to Logos through their studies.  And I believe more children would be won over if there was some thought put into creating a small, simple package or an article which highlights what would be helpful for children.

NiRV is a good translation for young ones. My kids have been reading it happily since about 6 years old.

Lee said:

I think a BP(s) for kids is an excellent idea.

It may not be realistic. They used to sell a woman’s BP but it disappeared quickly. It’s not like the demand for a children’s BP will be any higher than for a woman’s BP. Personally I think teaching the children to use the graphics already in place and supplementing that up with children’s books is enough.  Maybe add children‘s color backgrounds with cartoon-like designs and it should be fine. It’s a Bible Study Software and not too many people invest in those. So working off of what we’ve already have would be a much better idea and everybody wins. 👍😁👌

DAL

JT (alabama24) said:

DAL said:

It may not be realistic. They used to sell a woman’s BP but it disappeared quickly. It’s not like the demand for a children’s BP will be any higher than for a woman’s BP.

I don't know if it would sell or not, but I don't think your contention is necessarily true. 

Another BP that disappeared was the Chaplain one.  But then again, I’ve been wrong before. Unfortunately and sadly, most kids now days don’t really “get into the Bible,“ so from a business perspective adding to what we already have is better than creating a new product.  Plus, in my opinion it would have to be something interactive so they can learn  or else they will find it boring to type a verse or topic in the passage guide  and wait for results to populate for them to have to read one hit at a time. Remember,  just because we as ministers and adults love Logos and would love for everybody to use it doesn’t mean kids will react in the same way.  Imagine a kid telling another kid, “ wow I typed a passage in the  “exegetical  guy” and he gave me a cool Greek meaning!!!”

Exactly my point! What are the odds of that happening 😁

I’m sure FL could think of something but there is no guarantee it will work. Didn’t they try to kickstart something for kids. I don’t think it ever kickstarted.

DAL

Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:

As a father of four young children, two of whom use Logos on mobile devices occasionally, I've been thinking about products for children and families.

FWIW:   I know they're not eformat - just plain ol' paper, but I can tell you that my grandkids *eagerly* await every new issue of 'High Five' and 'Hello' magazines (see here) that come once a month in the mail - and then devour them.  Perhaps Logos/Lexham can emulate?

BTW, here are ten facts about Highlights Magazine you might not know.

Phil

Here is a list of some resources that could be in a package or several packages:

Homeschool Material
Greek Course
Hebrew Course
English Dictionary
MacArthur, J., Ennis, P., Greer, C. P., Jr., Horner, G., Hughes, J. J., Jones, T. B., … Tatlock, M. A. (2003). Think biblically! recovering a christian worldview. Wheaton, IL: Crossway.
Encyclopediea Britannica
Great books of teh western world
Harvard Classics
History
LOEB Classical Library
Sherlock Holmes
HG WElls


Relationships and Teenage Years
5 love languages for children (Gary Chapman).
The measure of a young man (Gene Getz)
10 Things for Teen Girls (Kate Conner)
Appleseeds (Mentoring program for preteen girls)
Resources on dating and relationships
Cook, D. C. (2013). Daily grace for teens. Colorado Springs, CO: David C Cook.

Science and the Bible
Creation vs Evolution



JR Tolken
CS Lewis
Classic Christian Stories
Scripture memory
Bible Dictionary
Apologetics

Anderson, R., & Veerman, D. (1999). Bible humor top 7 lists (electronic ed.). Nashville: Word Pub.

Marty, W. H. (2011). The whole Bible story: everything that happens in the Bible in plain English. Grand Rapids, MI: Bethany House.

The Books of the Bible made easy. Alresford, Hampshire: John Hunt Publishing.

Moody, D. L. (1877). D. L. Moody’s Child Stories Related by Him in His Revival Work. (J. B. McClure, Ed.). Chicago: Rhodes & McClure.

Holman Bible Handbook
Holman quicksource guide to understanding the Bible

Ryrie, C. C. (1991). Biblical answers to tough questions. Chicago, IL: Moody Press.

Group, B. P. (2011). God’s answers for life’s questions. Grand Rapids, MI: Bethany House.

Crucial Questions (RC Sproul)

The New Treasury of Scripture knowledge

Anderson, K. (1996). Where to Find It in the Bible. Nashville: T. Nelson Publishers.

Devotionals

DAL said:

Unfortunately and sadly, most kids now days don’t really “get into the Bible,“ so from a business perspective adding to what we already have is better than creating a new product.  ...  Imagine a kid telling another kid, “ wow I typed a passage in the  “exegetical  guy” and he gave me a cool Greek meaning!!!”

DAL

Sadly, the vast majority of even Christian kids are like that; however, there are perhaps more than you realize who would be interested in looking up "cool Greek meanings!!!"  I'm involved in a competition called the National Bible Bee in which thousands of kids from ages seven to eighteen participate to memorize verses and study the Bible as well as Greek and Hebrew key words from their study.  Of those thousands, I'm sure the over three hundred who qualify from the Local to the National contest as well as many others who devoted themselves to the study but didn't make it to Nationals would be thrilled to have such Bible resources.

Here are a list of resources that I think would be helpful and used specifically by the Bible Bee but also things that any young child would be able to enjoy and understand:

Guides (I don't know how many of these are included or excluded from certain packages for a specific reason, but these are just my suggestions based on either what I have or I looked up to find that they would be helpful for kids)

The Bible Word Study (BWS) for studying Greek and Hebrew words.  I personally love the layout, and I do think that younger children would be able to understand it

The BWS will probably be enough, but the Exegetical Guide might also be helpful to some.  I don't think the layout is good for younger children, but maybe some of the older ones would like see how the Greek/Hebrew words fit together in the verses.

I have never really used it much, but looking over it, Passage Guide looks like it could be useful too -- particularly the Cross References, Parallel Passages, Biblical People, Biblical Places, Biblical Things, Biblical Events, Topics, Interesting Words, and maybe Cultural Concepts.

Maybe Topic Guide

Documents (I don't know how many of these are included or excluded from certain packages for a specific reason, but these are just my suggestions based on either what I have or I looked up to find that they would be helpful for kids)

Probably Clippings to help study certain topics and cross-references

Notes

Passage list to keep track of and study memory verses and cross references

Again, I've never used Reading Plan, but others might to keep track of how much study they have to do each day

Maybe but probably not the Sentence Diagram as seven-year-olds probably don't know how to diagram sentences (a few more years of misery are yet ahead of them in school)

Visual Filters

Maybe Word Find Puzzle

Word List

Tools (I don't know how many of these are included or excluded from certain packages for a specific reason, but these are just my suggestions based on either what I have or I looked up to find that they would be helpful for kids)

Collections

Courses -- It would be amazing if the Bible Bee could turn their Study Book into a course on Logos, 

Some more obvious ones that I'm 99.99% sure are included with Logos no mater what package you get

Definitely Atlas

Timeline

Maybe Factbook

Probably Timeline

Everything under the utilities section

I guess Explorer

Maybe Pronunciation

Books

Sometimes the BWS isn't enough of a definition for a Greek/Hebrew (G/H) words.  The ones that I just happen to have are A Pocket Lexicon to the Greek New Testament and Abridged Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew-English Lexicon.  Maybe there are some better ones.  The other one that the study material for the BB (Bible Bee) recommends is Strong's Concordance. That should also be included

The Bible obviously.  The versions allowed for the Bible Bee are KJV, NKJV, NASB, ESV, and NIV.  I think these versions should be included in the package as well as any other child-friendly versions.

Several good commentaries.  What's great about the Faithlife Study Bible (which should be part of it) is that it's filled with pictures (which should also be part of it).  I don't know if there are any other commentaries like it that have diagrams and pictures or cartoons, but those would be nice too.  The problem with the Faithlife Study Bible is it isn't always as in-depth as I'd like it.  Sometimes there are things I want to learn about or verify with a commentary, but the FSB doesn't talk about it.  So in addition to child-friendly commentaries, there should also be at least one comprehensive but exhaustive commentary (i.e. if it uses either of those words, then it doesn't qualify)

Exhaustive cross reference book(s) (They would be used for the BB to find cross-references)

Elliot Swaim said:

Here are a list of resources that I think would be helpful and used specifically by the Bible Bee but also things that any young child would be able to enjoy and understand:

Welcome to the forums, Elliot!

Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:

As a father of four young children, two of whom use Logos on mobile devices occasionally, I've been thinking about products for children and families. We're exploring a few ideas and may start testing some in Q3.

We're considering group licensing of certain products to a Faithlife family group, so everyone in your family would be able to access the licenses on their own individual accounts. Not all content would qualify for a multi-user license, but some would—and more would over time.

If you have other recommendations on what kinds of content you'd like to see in a package for kids or a package for families, please keep the suggestions coming.

If you were going to invest in a version of Logos for your family, what price point would make sense for you?

As a dad myself, and a local church family worker I'd be very interested in helping to test this should the opportunity arise.

Friedrich said:

Let me suggest a new option/perspective.  My children are in a homeschool program

Yes, my children are homeschooled as well and I agree with your suggestion. I see a market for Homeschool and I also see a market for learning God's Word.  The packages should be basic but with easy to find categories for additional material either for education or for studying God's Word.  The package should be more than the basic free version. 

Just a thought:

Clearly, “Children” needs to be defined here and be very specific. I hear Logos for “children” and I’m thinking 10 y.o. and under, another calls a 15 year old teenager “children,” and others mean children in the sense of sons and daughters. Your 20 y.o. “child” or daughter can use Logos as it is now, no need for changes.  On the other hand a six-year-old would need major changes on the interface and font of text, along with resources for a “child” his age. 

So, I know your 40 y.o. “Child” will always be your “child” along with your “children” that are already married and have their own children, but...get the point, right? Nobody is really being specific. Everybody is mixing their own definition of “children.”

Define children, because a 15 y.o. is not a “child” — again, ”he’s your child” alright, but he doesn’t fall into the category of a REAL child 🧒 👶🏼 

 With that in mind not only would you need Logos for “children” but also Logos for teenagers.

Be clear on the definition and that will get everybody on the same page and off to a specific start.

DAL

NEW: Logos comes out with some new children's books: https://ebooks.faithlife.com/christian-kids-books

 Genghis-

You may want to check out the "Bible Study Handbook: A Resource For Teaching 175 Stories from the Bible" by John Walton and Kim Walton.

It was written with Sunday school teachers teaching kids about the Bible in mind. 

 https://www.logos.com/product/46950/the-bible-story-handbook-a-resource-for-teaching-175-stories-from-the-bible

"Cottonmouth and the River," "The Story of Jesus" ($15 whopping dollars), "Lost and Found" are still awaiting readability.  

I do have some 25 or so other books tagged "children's books" that look alright at a glance.  Although the old ones are not fixed, it seems that the others I have are OK for kids to read.  I have a handful of grandkids so far, coming along, and I will soon be deciding about getting them into to Logos.