Why all the bundling? Request to Logos/Faithlife staff
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Please add https://www.logos.com/product/45448/baker-academic-and-brazos-press-spiritual-formation-collection to the unbundle list.
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Daniel Radke said:
This may not apply to all of the resources mentioned in this thread. I'll look into each of those separately.
Ben, thank you for your clear and helpful note. If possible, I'd love to know whether the New Morning Mercies Vyrso edition I purchased is slated to be retired when the Logos edition goes from pre-publication to live.
So the Vyrso edition of New Morning Mercies will be replaced by the Logos edition. If you have the Vyrso edition, you'll get the Logos edition free.
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So the Vyrso edition of New Morning Mercies will be replaced by the Logos edition. If you have the Vyrso edition, you'll get the Logos edition free.
Great to hear! Thanks for looking into this!
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Didn't get to buy it...even though the sale of best of 2017 is still going on
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Hi Ben,
Any update on the classic commentary sets mentioned on page 4 of this thread or John Brown's Systematic Theology (all public domain works)?
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I agree. I found out today that I do not have the tools "Concordance" and "Bible Browser". I have spent $4,300 for my library and can't use these two tools because I only have a "Starter" set. What a rip off. I had a Chat with a person and he offered me the tools package for $189.00 and if I bought it they would give me a $199.00 Mobile Course. I don't want the course I just want to be able to use the tools Logos offers.
I will not give them another cent. I'm going back to building my WordSearch library.
Jim R. Keener
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It’s because you don’t own the ”new” features that have been developed. You can go for Logos Now subscription may be worth it for you
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Jim R. Keener said:
I agree.
Your issue is unrelated (lack of features) to the post you replied to (bundling of books sold together).
Jim R. Keener said:I have spent $4,300 for my library and can't use these two tools
Two things: The software is free but continued development requires an influx of funds. To accomplish this, some new features require a purchase. You should still have access to OLD features and all of your resources, but if you want NEW features, you may have to pay for them.
As Keith suggested, you should consider a "Logos Now" subscription.
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Jim R. Keener said:
I found out today that I do not have the tools "Concordance" and "Bible Browser". I have spent $4,300 for my library and can't use these two tools because I only have a "Starter" set.
Comparing Feature Sets => https://www.logos.com/compare/feature-sets?productIds=121388,121389,120029,120030,136012,124704,124703 shows Concordance Tool plus many more features need Full Feature Set, Now membership, or Cloud Subscription
Suspect Concordance was included in Full Feature Set with many other original language features. Bible Browser also includes selections for many datasets that are included in Full Feature Set: e.g. Propositional Outlines, Longacre Genre, Grammatical Constructions, Figurative Language, ...
Logos Essentials Upgrade (Medium) includes Full Feature Set plus some resources => https://www.logos.com/product/145467/logos-7-essential-upgrade (albeit Now membership is less expensive plus would have a discount toward new Logos 8 library purchase later this year).
Thankful for free Mobile Education courses => LT270: Study the Bible with Logos: Jonah 1:1–16 and => LT271: Study the Bible with Logos: Jonah 1 that include many tips about using Logos Bible Software.
Jim R. Keener said:I'm going back to building my WordSearch library.
Thankful for over 100,000 resources being available for use in Logos so wallet crying potential is more than WordSearch.
Thankful for my favorite feature of visual filter highlighting to "see" range of Greek verbal expression => Examples of visual filters being usable in free Basic packages (and above, including Starter).
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Please add this to your list Ben
https://www.logos.com/product/148350/crossway-apologetics-collection
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I'd like to see Logos basic/starter more focused on BIBLE study, not everything else. I'm a layperson, and don't need all the stuff that comes with the product. And I think there's a few features that are excluded from the basic version that I think EVERYONE who studies the Bible should have...so why are those features excluded? Like to create "sermons" for family Bible study, but it is looking like I have to spend $$$ to upgrade to get one feature.
I'm just a layperson, and I'm finding Logos overly complicated, which makes it not as powerful as just a Bible + document editor.
I'd put more focus into the application features, simplicity, performance, portability between all my different devices and operating systems.
I also don't want to get tied into an ecosystem, so anything I create needs to be exportable. If Logos decided not to exist, I don't want to lose my life's work that I've put into my study documentation.
I want something better than all the free stuff out there, but don't want to spend $$$ for the next level. There needs to be something in the middle. Let us add stuff later, if we want it.
Focused on SIMPLE personal and family bible study.
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I agree the sermon editor should be free even in the basic package. Accordance and WORDsearch, even e-sword has their own “sermon editor“ for free (they have different names each). It’s a basic tool for preachers and lay teachers. Just my opinion 👍😁👌
DAL
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Jake said:
I want something better than all the free stuff out there, but don't want to spend $$$ for the next level. There needs to be something in the middle. Let us add stuff later, if we want it.
Thankful for Faithlife offering four levels (bundles) of Features:
- Basic (Free)
- Starter
- Full
- Now (All Features plus more) for $ 99.99 annual membership
This thread has mentioned three features in Full and Now (Bible Browser, Concordance, and Sermon Editor) with desire for them to be included in less expensive bundle(s).
Jake said:I also don't want to get tied into an ecosystem, so anything I create needs to be exportable. If Logos decided not to exist, I don't want to lose my life's work that I've put into my study documentation.
Ecosystem lock in happens for published digital resources. STEP was not commercially viable => https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STEP_Library
For Logos, keeping your stuff in docx files that can be compiled into Personal Books is viable. Logos wiki has => Personal Books
Jake said:I'm just a layperson, and I'm finding Logos overly complicated, which makes it not as powerful as just a Bible + document editor.
Logos has powerful features for daily study over many hours. Concur about learning curve to use Logos effectively. As a lay person have been amazed what Logos can show me in the Bible (plus quickly find relevant articles in my library). Thankful for free Basic that includes Bibles with Reverse Interlinear tagging, Note documents, plus can create Personal Books.
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Ben
Please add this to the list as well. I'd love to get praying the Bible without all the other stuff
https://www.logos.com/product/145484/crossway-christian-living-collection#008
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Ben, Would it be possible to break up this collection? https://www.logos.com/product/49385/baker-leadership-collection-upgrade#003
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David Thomas said:
Ben, Would it be possible to break up this collection? https://www.logos.com/product/49385/baker-leadership-collection-upgrade#003
Got it on this list
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Ben,
Please add this to your list as well. I'd really like to read The Gospel According to Moses but it is bundled with two others. Thank you
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Mattillo said:
Ben,
Please add this to your list as well. I'd really like to read The Gospel According to Moses but it is bundled with two others. Thank you
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Senior Director, Content Products
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What about https://www.logos.com/product/40217/classics-of-western-spirituality-pre-reformation-christianity? Would that be possible?
EDIT: And https://www.logos.com/product/49138/paulist-press-liturgy-collection?
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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I'd love the option of buying Feasting on the Word volume by volume. I won't pay the full price for it (probably won't pay the 40% off it's about to receive) but if I could buy it volume by volume and pay for it as the liturgical season progresses, I would definitely do it.
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Nick said:
I'd love the option of buying Feasting on the Word volume by volume. I won't pay the full price for it (probably won't pay the 40% off it's about to receive) but if I could buy it volume by volume and pay for it as the liturgical season progresses, I would definitely do it.
I was wrong. 40% off was too tempting.
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Ben,
Please break the prepub https://www.logos.com/product/138250/smyth-and-helwys-bible-commentary-collection into smaller bundles.
I would personally buy a bundle composed of Ruth & Esther, Isaiah 1-39, Daniel, 2 Corinthians and 1 & 2 Thessalonians
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Found another! Is this breakup process still on the back burner? Just curious when we can expect to see some of them. Thanks
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Mattillo said:
Found another! Is this breakup process still on the back burner? Just curious when we can expect to see some of them. Thanks
The one that I requested on Jan 27 2018 has already been unbundled! Thanks Faithlife!
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Please finish breaking up https://www.logos.com/product/33798/bloomsbury-studies-on-thomas-aquinas.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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I found another Ben. I'd like to get reinventing Jesus.
https://www.logos.com/product/151663/kregel-apologetics-collection#015
Is there any progress being made on these Ben?
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Mattillo said:
I found another Ben. I'd like to get reinventing Jesus.
https://www.logos.com/product/151663/kregel-apologetics-collection#015
Is there any progress being made on these Ben?
Thanks. Yes, we're getting closer to a long-term solution
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Mattillo said:
I found another Ben. I'd like to get reinventing Jesus.
https://www.logos.com/product/151663/kregel-apologetics-collection#015
Is there any progress being made on these Ben?
Thanks. Yes, we're getting closer to a long-term solution
I thought I would join the fun, Ben.
I'd like to get "Issues in the Book of Hebrews" from this set: https://www.logos.com/product/37737/daniel-and-revelation-committee-series
Cliff
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Also, it would be great, if Logos would let us "know," that something had been "un-bundled"...I know in the past, I have checked on a book, but then if I saw it was only in a bundle and too expensive, I just "forgot" about it...if I was notified, then this might encourage a purchase! [:)]
Thanks!
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Charlene said:
it would be great, if Logos would let us "know," that something had been "un-bundled"
There used to be an active forum thread where exactly this happened.
I don't know if it is still in use. I suspect it took too much staff time to post notices.
Eating a steady diet of government cheese, and living in a van down by the river.
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Another: www.logos.com/product/55810/
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Nevermind I answered my own question on this one... it seems the lexham discourse dataset is the same thing
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Ben
Is there any reason why the Lexham High Definition New and Old Testaments cannot be purchased separately? Could they be unbundled?
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Please unbundle to allow the purchase of individual volumes - https://www.logos.com/product/150634/new-beacon-bible-commentary-upgrade
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Roger Dittmar said:
Please unbundle to allow the purchase of individual volumes - https://www.logos.com/product/150634/new-beacon-bible-commentary-upgrade
Agreed!
Also, I am interested in the following bundles being broken up: Crossway Studies on the Trinitarian God; Serious Christian, vols. 1-20.
In the first, I am only interested in Fred Sanders, The Deep Things of God: How the Trinity Changes Everything. In the second, only the F. B. Meyer commentary on Exodus. In neither case am I willing to pay $100+ for a set when I only have use for one volume.
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Any news on this collection being broken up?
https://www.logos.com/product/55807/crossway-biblical-theology-collection
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David Couch said:
Any news on this collection being broken up?
https://www.logos.com/product/55807/crossway-biblical-theology-collection
Yes!!!!!
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This hasn't shipped yet but when it does next week please add it to your list to break up
https://www.logos.com/product/50061/zondervan-biblical-studies-collection
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Roger Dittmar said:
Please unbundle to allow the purchase of individual volumes - https://www.logos.com/product/150634/new-beacon-bible-commentary-upgrade
[Y] Thanks for unbundling! Individual purchases completed.
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I would love to see the Bloomsbury Studies on Thomas Aquinas set to be unbundled. The more Herbert McCabe, the better!
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Please break up this Spanish bundle: https://www.logos.com/product/51479/coleccion-herramientas-para-el-lider
I would post in the Spanish forum, but they rarely respond. I only need the Jack Cottrell Volume in Spanish. Even with the 40% off discoun is still too expensive and the quality of the other books is not good and does not justify spending that much for them.
Thanks!
DAL
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Please break this up
https://www.logos.com/product/50061/zondervan-biblical-studies-collection
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YES! I agree! Please break this up!
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