What are your thoughts on the Lost World Series?
DAL
The only Lost World Series I'm aware about is by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle...
Have I missed something?
I’m referring to this one: https://www.logos.com/product/166145/the-lost-world-series
The only Lost World Series I'm aware about is by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle... Have I missed something?
I assume DAL's reference is to https://www.logos.com/product/166145/the-lost-world-series
The only one of this series I have read is "The Lost World of Genesis One" and I found it interesting and helpful.
DAL was referring to: https://www.logos.com/product/166145/the-lost-world-series
The only Lost World Series I'm aware about is by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle... Have I missed something? I assume DAL's reference is to https://www.logos.com/product/166145/the-lost-world-series The only one of this series I have read is "The Lost World of Genesis One" and I found it interesting and helpful.
It does look like a very interesting series. I note that N. T. Wright contributed to one of the volumes, and that speaks well of it.
I have not read them but I do know that they go against the literal 6 day interpretation (not a test for orthodoxy). This review reflects that viewpoint
http://biblethumpingwingnut.com/2017/09/29/critical-review-lost-world-genesis-one-john-walton/
What are your thoughts on the Lost World Series? DAL
The first one I read was The Lost World of Genesis One. It caught my attention after going through one of John's Mobile Ed courses. I found I really liked his tone, his attitude, and his teaching style and since I was planning to do a study in Genesis I picked up his Genesis book. I found it very interesting and just as with his Mobile Ed course, I really liked the way he presented the material in the book.
I'm now going through The Lost World of Adam and Eve--I'm about half way through and have not been disappointed. I've had a lot of interruptions though so I'll probably try to do a more consolidated "read-through" when I'm finished with this first very piece-meal read.
I haven't looked at the other three books yet, but based on how helpful and interesting I've found his other materials I picked them up as soon as they were available.
I have a great deal of personal respect for Walton. I've known him since he taught at Moody (my wife was in the class that helped him proof his first book). My daughter is now harassing him at Wheaton. My background is that of a missionary with anthropological and linguistic training. I like a lot of what Walton writes. I still don't know where I stand on his interpretation of Genesis 1 and 2 and his distinction between functional and material origins. I do know that he is very well respected, has a heart for God, and is attempting to understand the Old Testament in the most faithful way possible. Even if you don't agree with all of his conclusions, I think if the Old Testament interests you and you are an Evangelical...you should probably be reading Walton (And Goldingay, Longman, Waltke, and various others. I enjoyed his first two books in the series and started the Israelite Conquest one, but haven't finished it yet. And off topic: I consider his Old Testament Survey (with Andrew Hill) the best Evangelical OT Survey out there.
I have them as well and found them quite eye opening in some areas. Anytime you can get a world class scholar(s) opening up backgrounds etc., I say go for it. Maybe not as out there as Dr. Heiser (this is not a slam against him. He's opened my eyes to some stuff), but they still make you go, "hmmm, I never knew that before."
FWIW
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I couldn't agree with you more about Hill's OT Survey. Totally love(d) it.
I have not read them but I do know that they go against the literal 6 day interpretation (not a test for orthodoxy). This review reflects that viewpoint http://biblethumpingwingnut.com/2017/09/29/critical-review-lost-world-genesis-one-john-walton/
Interesting! Kind of like Roy Gingrich believes in the gap theory, stating that millions of years happened between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2
https://www.logos.com/images/pagescans/gingrich/GingrichSamplePages005.jpg
I’m sure it will still be an interesting read. Plus, it’s only $34 and change for me 👍😁👌
Thanks everyone for their comments!
Edit: Wow 😮 have you seen the individual prices for each volume?
https://www.logos.com/products/search?q=Lost+world
I have not read them but I do know that they go against the literal 6 day interpretation
Great! I wouldn't spend this amount of money on a resource on Genesis that takes any other point of view.
It's on my wish list for now, so it will keep tempting me until the end of the month.
I've read the Genesis One and the Flood books, and enjoyed both. I don't know that I agree with everything in them, but they are well researched and thoughtful - I found both helpful.
I do not belong to Walton's theological campe, but I quite like them. I also own his academic version of Lost World of Genesis 1 book.
they go against the literal 6 day interpretation
A: I believe that this is a literal reading. A literal reading requires an understanding of the Hebrew language and the Israelite culture. I believe that the reading that I have offered is the most literal reading possible at this point."
John H. Walton, The Lost World of Genesis One: Ancient Cosmology and the Origins Debate (Downers Grove, IL: IVP Academic, 2009), 169.
they go against the literal 6 day interpretation Walton would challenge that. "Q: Why don’t you want to just read the text literally? A: I believe that this is a literal reading. A literal reading requires an understanding of the Hebrew language and the Israelite culture. I believe that the reading that I have offered is the most literal reading possible at this point." John H. Walton, The Lost World of Genesis One: Ancient Cosmology and the Origins Debate (Downers Grove, IL: IVP Academic, 2009), 169.
Much learning has made him mad 😜 That’s like trying to interpret Revelation in a literal way, doesn’t make sense! I’ll check him out to learn where he’s coming from, though 👍😁👌
The only Lost World Series I'm aware about
I immediately thought of Shoeless Joe Jackson and the 1919 World Series.
Wow, I’m not embracing his belief but so far so good. Very thought provoking. I’m glad I pulled the trigger on the Collection 👍😁👌
I believe Logos has this book as it was the free book of the month some time ago: www.logos.com/product/46731/
I now see where Walton is coming from. He is not denying creation ex-nihilo, but rather stating that that’s not really the point of Genesis 1. He clearly states the following:
”I firmly believe that God is fully responsible for material origins, and that, in fact, material origins do involve at some point creation out of nothing.” Page 42 of his book The Lost World of Genesis. (Mobile device doesn’t copy references).
So, yeah, it makes sense from his perspective, but nothing to worry about IMHO
Kevin Vanhoozer takes a similar position. Search YouTube for "Kevin Vanhoozer, From the Literal Interpretation of Genesis to the Doctrine of Literal Six-Day Creation" by the Henry Center, published August 9, 2018.
I have them as well and found them quite eye opening in some areas. Anytime you can get a world class scholar(s) opening up backgrounds etc., I say go for it. Maybe not as out there as Dr. Heiser (this is not a slam against him. He's opened my eyes to some stuff), but they still make you go, "hmmm, I never knew that before." FWIW mm.
I‘ve never read anything from Dr Heiser I’d consider as being out there. Akl he asking of his readers is to stand back from the text, strip away the presuppositions and traditions you normally bring to the text and read the ‘naked‘ bible without those things influencing our reading and to do so in its its ANE context.
I believe in his own way Walton is doing the same. I can’t fault either of them in their desire to be faithful to the text and to present the text faithfully to their reader. They provide much food for thought whether I agree fully with every point my they make or not.
