[ACK 6.4] Logos 6 (OS X)—Shortcut Icon in Dock?

The same has happened to my icon. Thanks for reporting it!

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/727536#Comment_727536

I saw this mentioned in the beta forums before the stable release was shipped and yes, it is the current behavior for me as well. Another "interesting" thing is that clicking the dock icon doesn't display the initial splash screen while launching from the launch pad does!

JT (alabama24)

It is annoying and has sullied my dock. [:P]

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/727583#Comment_727583

^ yes.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/727583#Comment_727583

It is annoying and has sullied my dock.

I saw it as well - yuk, Windows creep. I would mention like I did years ago about making Logos more "Mac like", but I might be 'told off' by one of the Pritchetts again. Double [:P]

Also when I start Logos 6 this way (with this Windows shortcut type of icon) my screen briefly flashes to black and back again.

John Goodman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/727757#Comment_727757

I just removed it and put it back - all fine...

Michelle Knight

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/727775#Comment_727775

I just removed it and put it back - all fine...

When I remove the icon and put it back, it also looks fine... but only for awhile. Eventually the shortcut icon reappears.

GregW

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/727775#Comment_727775

I just removed it and put it back - all fine...

That worked for me as well.

John Kight

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/727777#Comment_727777

I just removed it and put it back - all fine...

When I remove the icon and put it back, it also looks fine... but only for awhile. Eventually the shortcut icon reappears.

same here

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/727779#Comment_727779

Having been on the beta channel, I saw this behavior each time the app was updated. FL never responded to the issue. [:s]

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/727783#Comment_727783

Having been on the beta channel, I saw this behavior each time the app was updated. FL never responded to the issue.

Strange – I have never seen this.

Perhaps it got washed off as it crossed the Atlantic. (I presume that it the route it takes, even from the West Coast?)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/727982#Comment_727982

Strange – I have never seen this.

Mike, is this true for you even after starting the program from the dock for several times?

Are you running OS X Yosemite? I am highly suspicious that it's due to the "new" method of installation that I have seen discussed. I have checked the package contents, it is not that the program ships with a shortcut icon.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/727982#Comment_727982

Perhaps it got washed off as it crossed the Atlantic.

Lol! Unfortunately it didn't wash off for me, plus it got past the strict Israeli security! [:P]

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/727988#Comment_727988

Strange – I have never seen this.

Mike, is this true for you even after starting the program from the dock for several times?

Are you running OS X Yosemite? I am highly suspicious that it's due to the "new" method of installation that I have seen discussed. I have checked the package contents, it is not that the program ships with a shortcut icon.

Dylan Rondeau

After downloading the newest update, the dock icon for Logos 6 is showing up for me as a shortcut icon. This is of course minor, but, I assume, unintentional.

Is anyone else seeing this behavior?

One of our Mac devs was asked about this, and it’s an alias now so that it will work across versions due to the changes in the update process. (Apple places that arrow there) We hope to have this removed in 6.4.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/728194#Comment_728194

Mike, is this true for you even after starting the program from the dock for several times?

It is remarkable the way that folk use the program differently Reuben, I don't think that I have ever started the program from the dock!

The dock is pretty redundant now days - I find it much quicker to hit cmd-space and type 'Logos' <enter> (or whatever program that I want to run or swap to). Logos generally sits in in full screen in its own space so to get to it I just (three finger) swipe up and pick the space.

However I have tried running it from the dock and the Icon remains stubbornly short-cut-arrow free.

Are you running OS X Yosemite?

I have tested this on both the Yosemite Beta 10.10.4 and Stable 10.10.3 versions.

GregW

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/727982#Comment_727982

Perhaps it got washed off as it crossed the Atlantic.

It might have got washed off on the way to Northamptonshire, but it didn't on the way to North Hampshire. It's still stubbornly present on my dock, having disappeared for a while but returned after starting the program from the dock a few times.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/728369#Comment_728369

Perhaps it got washed off as it crossed the Atlantic.

It might have got washed off on the way to Northamptonshire, but it didn't on the way to North Hampshire. It's still stubbornly present on my dock, having disappeared for a while but returned after starting the program from the dock a few times.

You don't, perchance, have a spare do you?

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/728196#Comment_728196

One of our Mac devs was asked about this, and it’s an alias now so that it will work across versions due to the changes in the update process. (Apple places that arrow there) We hope to have this removed in 6.4.

Except every other Mac application seems to be able to work in a standard Mac way and not have this issue including when the app is updated. So really Logos is the 'odd man out' here. I hope that FL accepts that it is the one not working in a standard Mac way and can get the dock icon back working properly.

https://community.logos.com/forums/p/105299/729065.aspx#729065

For anyone interested in some of the technical background to this you can read my post here

Essentially on the Mac Logos has changed it to be an 'application within an application', I gather for the purposes of improving how Logos is updated.

If one looks at the contents of the Logos Bible Software 6 app (see my other post) they will see this...

the 'Current' folder is a Mac Unix soft link as can be seen if one does a folder listing...

Patricks-MacBook-Air:Versions patrick$ pwd
/Applications/Logos.app/Contents/Frameworks/FaithlifeDesktop.framework/Versions
Patricks-MacBook-Air:Versions patrick$ ls -la
total 8
drwxr-xr-x 4 patrick admin 136 May 13 05:58 .
drwxr-xr-x 5 patrick admin 170 May 13 05:58 ..
drwxr-xr-x 6 patrick admin 204 May 13 05:58 6.3.0.38
lrwxr-xr-x 1 patrick admin 8 May 13 05:58 Current -> 6.3.0.38

it shows that 'Current' points to the actual version folder. As the app path is a soft link OS X shows the soft link indicator in the UI. Of course it must be noted also that this is not a standard OS X way of working - which is why you do not see the soft link indicator for any other Mac OS X application.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/729069#Comment_729069

Thanks for the post Patrick,

Is fact that I almost always open Logos from Spotlight the reason that I am not seeing this on my icon?

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/729117#Comment_729117

Is fact that I almost always open Logos from Spotlight the reason that I am not seeing this on my icon?

No, I tested this and it still appears (after the second restart). That got me thinking about your workflow and I thought that perhaps you don't have the icon "kept in the dock." Am I right about this? In other words, when you quit the application does the icon disappear from your dock? I tried it this way (both from spotlight as well as my normal method, launchpad) and since each time it's essentially a "fresh" icon, that ugly arrow never shows up! I rarely used the dock to launch Logos, but had locked it to the dock, partially to give it a place of preeminence among my apps. [:D]

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/729117#Comment_729117

Thanks for the post Patrick,

Is fact that I almost always open Logos from Spotlight the reason that I am not seeing this on my icon?

Could well be - it has to be remembered that what Logos Faithlife is doing on the Mac is not 'Mac like' and things may break. As I mentioned earlier I also notice that if I launch Logos 6 from the dock I also see (which did not happen previously) that the screen (on my Macbook Air) flashes black for an instant.

I have tested and if I pin Logos 6 to the dock at first it is OK, but after about 2-3 loads it shows the alias/shortcut like change to the icon. I've just removed it and now load from Spotlight.

I joke a bit about the Pritchetts coming to get me, but the fact remains that having an 'app within an app' is unusual on the Mac hence we see things like this. Anyway I am sure the developers have investigated it and if there are any problems they will fix them.

Charles

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/727777#Comment_727777

I just removed it and put it back - all fine...

When I remove the icon and put it back, it also looks fine... but only for awhile. Eventually the shortcut icon reappears.

This and the problem with the "Services" menu no longer working makes me wonder if anyone at Logos tested 6.3 on a Mac? [:(]

In Christ,

Charles

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/729124#Comment_729124

Is fact that I almost always open Logos from Spotlight the reason that I am not seeing this on my icon?

No, I tested this and it still appears (after the second restart). That got me thinking about your workflow and I thought that perhaps you don't have the icon "kept in the dock." Am I right about this?

You are indeed Reuben. Seeing as I launch most applications from Spotlight I have never really bothered about what was pinned to the dock – and when I checked Logos wasn't.

As you can imagine; if the arrow did appear on my icon it would not affect me too much apart from the constant itch about the time for fulfilment of a promise about a program being 'built for the mac from the ground up' seems to be receding into the distance.

Sure it sort of works; but the things that make a mac such a joy in other programs seem to be missing from this kludge.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/729261#Comment_729261

it would not affect me too much apart from the constant itch about the time for fulfilment of a promise about a program being 'built for the mac from the ground up' seems to be receding into the distance.

Sure it sort of works; but the things that make a mac such a joy in other programs seem to be missing from this kludge.

I definitely feel your pain!![*-)] On the other hand...when I look at my friend's BibleWorks, I'm VERY grateful for how much more Mac-like the Logos interface is!!! If I had to use BW, this would definitely be me: [:'(]

mab

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/729281#Comment_729281

I was baffled by the behavior of the icon in the dock, but mostly because I usually like to customize my dock icons. Hopefully they can figure out how to make it operate normally. No problem at all in Windows.

Tommy Turnbow

Here's a one up from the rest of the discussion. I have read the entire thread, and my icon actually goes one step further. On my 2015 Macbook Pro 15" the icon is fine until I open Logos 6. At that time the icon on the doc switches to a document shortcut icon, meaning a blank white "sheet of paper" with the shortcut arrow at the bottom left. No Logos "cross in a magnifying glass" at all. If I remove it from the dock, and then put it back from the applications folder, it looks fine until I open Logos 6. At that point it's back to square one. No big deal, but annoying and ugly! BTW, I just migrated to the new macbook Pro. This behavior was not present on my previous Macbook Pro 2011 running Yosemite. Go figure!

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/732563#Comment_732563

Here's a one up from the rest of the discussion. I have read the entire thread, and my icon actually goes one step further.

If it's still the same issue, then the problem is fixed in 6.4 which is in beta right now. According to the 6 week release cycle 6.4 should ship on or around the 29th of this month. If you don't wanna wait until then, you can join the beta (after reading all the caveats!) by entering "set update channel to beta" into the command box.

Tommy Turnbow

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/732691#Comment_732691

Thanks for that, Reuben. I think I will do that. I actually participated in the beta of Logos 4, and enjoyed the experience!

Mike Mobley

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/728196#Comment_728196

Is there any ETA on this 6.4 fix so it can fix the dock problem?

Jack Caviness

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/732852#Comment_732852

Is there any ETA on this 6.4 fix so it can fix the dock problem?

See Reuben's analysis two posts above your—Sometime around June 29.

Jim Erwin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/732691#Comment_732691

I see the same problem on my Mac. It makes it a document shortcut. I look forward to this being fixed in 6.4

Thanks

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/732691#Comment_732691

For future reference, if I was to update to beta, is there anyway to go back to stable?

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/738675#Comment_738675

For future reference, if I was to update to beta, is there anyway to go back to stable?

It depends upon what you mean by "go back to stable." Yes, you can change your update channel back to stable and when the next release comes out GREATER THAN the beta you are using, it will download. No, you cannot go from beta to stable during the beta cycle... at least not without performing a COMPLETE reinstall.