I am considering buying a new monitor in the 27 inch range. Does anyone have suggestions on what kind of monitor they like best when working with Logos 6?
Welcome to the Forums, Jim!
I recently picked up a 29" Ultra Wide Screen Monitor and absolutely love it. It was fairly inexpensive and works prefect with my Logos workflow.
Not to mention, it has a'reader' mode that strips away blue light (light that typically causes eye strain). This is especially helpful for long periods of study or low light work situations.
Personally I prefer two 21" monitors to one 27" or 29". You tend to get more screen/pixels for less money, and I find it personally find it much better having two distinct monitors when I'm doing Bible study - one for Logos, and one for Word/Chrome.
I agree with Mark, I've been using two monitors for over two years and it makes study so much easier for me.
I find that the 21:9 monitor is plenty wide to work in tandem with Logos and a word processor, as well as other application on a single screen. Furthermore, with the additional HDMI and Display Port you can actually run two machines simultaneously. It is essentially two monitors without the screen break between the two (of course two 21" monitors will provide more screen real-estate, but for a single monitor you can't beat it.).
I find that the 21:9 monitor is plenty wide to work in tandem with Logos and a word processor, as well as other application on a single screen.
I feel this is a good suggestion.
I have a 32" monitor for graphics work and last spring I added an orphaned 21" monitor as a second monitor and I am happy, but this might be an overkill for Logos only.
Personally I prefer two 21" monitors to one 27" or 29". Y
I have two 27" monitors, and I really like this approach. Most of my layouts are "single main Logos window on 1 screen". But the ones I use for more intensive study, including sermon preparation, have the main window on 1 screen and 1 or 2 floating windows on the 2nd screen. This works extremely well for me.
Also, Windows 10 finally exposes the multiple desktop support that's been in Windows since Vista (or maybe even XP). I'm hoping to take advantage of that once I upgrade my main PC w/ these 2 monitors to Win10. In that case, my multi-screen Logos layouts will be 1 desktop, and my personal productivity stuff (Outlook, etc.) will be on a different desktop.
Donnie
I use notebook screen plus 2 additional monitors 22". It works great but I am planning to change that for one 27 monitor as addition to the notebook. Thanks for all comments. It helps also me to decide.
between 4 and 8 of these would be ideal I should think.
I agree that 2 monitors or more is better than one. For 27" monitors, this one is pretty good, but not cheap:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009C3M7H0/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_2?pf_rd_p=1944687762&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B009H0XQQY&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=01SH6XPXPFYN6R98P45A
I'm currently using 2 older 25.5" 1080p monitors, but planning to move to a single 34" 21:9 monitor next year. Right now, it's either the Dell or Samsung 21:9 monitors, but we'll see if something interesting pops up next year.
I use 3 monitors,
A Old square dell 19 inch monitor
My 17 inch Laptop screen
and a 23 inch LG monitor.
This is via a Toshiba Dynadock.
However when I am out and about a great trick I learnt is holding the windows button and left or right neatly snaps the open program to one side.
If you want word on the right and Logos on the left, windows left/right key combo is the magic trick.
http://www.pcilluminate.com/hex-24.html
My dream and its on sale [:#]
It's not just about monitor size; it's also about number (and size) of pixels.
Going for 2560x1440 (16:9) rather than 1920x1080 (16:9) may be worth the extra money.
I've seen the 27" 2560x1440 QX2710 QNIX monitors go on sale for about $200. It's probably one of the best values you'll find. I've not used that brand, but I've had good success with other inexpensive brands. I'd recommend two of them.
Other 27" monitors to consider: Acer, BenQ, ASUS, or Dell.
If you're not on a tight budget, you might consider something a little bigger with even more pixels:
The higher-resolution 34" monitors are overpriced, IMO, compared to the 4Ks. You get a lot more pixels and screen real estate with the 40" 4K for about the same money, or less. I'd personally probably go with two 40" 4K monitors if the prices would come down a bit more. If you go with a 4K monitor, make sure your graphics card can power it and it'll support 4K at a 60Hz refresh rate (requires DP 1.2 or HDMI 2.0). If you go for a smaller 4K, keep in mind that things will either get tiny or you'll need to use DPI scaling, which will effectively reduce the number of usable pixels (but increase the clarity). Also, Windows doesn't have great DPI scaling (though it might be improved in Windows 10), and it varies from app to app.
I had two of the first-gen Seiki 40" 4K TVs and used them as monitors, but ended up returning them both due to dead pixels and the limiting 30Hz refresh rate. I liked the size and amount of screen real estate though. Logos looked pretty great on it.
P.S. It's also worth considering the type of display (most commonly TN vs. IPS).
All this talk of bigger and multiple monitors brings up another expense- the need for a bigger desk! And of course a bigger desk means I now need a bigger office.[*-)]
Thanks Kelvin for your tip on windows left/right scroll keys. That is cool. And it fits on my little lap top monitor.[:D]
It will be worth the extra money.I learned this the hard way. Logos is a very text intensive software, so the less pixel resolution you have, the more jagged the letters will be, and it's not fun to read that. I quickly replaced my 1920/1080 monitor and bought a Dell U2713HM with 2560x1440 pixel resolution about a couple of years ago and never been happier.
Having 2 of these would improve my set up, but my desk is not big enough!
Anything large and under $300 to work with a Surface Pro I5 (original)? I primarily want sharpness for reading. Someone above mentioned removing blue but I cannot find that listed as a feature so far.
That's true at 27", but not at 21" and 22", IMO. Pixel density is more important that pixel count if you want smoothness. My 22" 1920x1080 monitor has a pixel density of 100ppi, which is only very slightly lower than yours (which is 109ppi).
I'd recommend the following minimums:
All this talk of bigger and multiple monitors brings up another expense- the need for a bigger desk! And of course a bigger desk means I now need a bigger office.
The irony of the bigger monitor. Your post made me laugh. I like that.!
But think of all the room you saved when you sold your dead-tree books and took out all those shelves!
Phil:
I have been looking at some of those 40" monitors (e-bay, Amazon, and New EGG). If I am not using them for gaming or the likes, and using them for MS Word and Logos, Why would 30 Hz rate be bad for documents? It sounds like you have some experience with these 40" monitors.
Also how many dead pixels did you have and how irritating were they, and were they black (off), or stuck (R,G, or ? I hear a couple or so is normal. Do you think with Logos (the primary use for this computer) a 3 or 4 dead pixels make it a no go to have such a monitor?
It's not just about monitor size; it's also about number (and size) of pixels. Going for 2560x1440 (16:9) rather than 1920x1080 (16:9) may be worth the extra money. I've seen the 27" 2560x1440 QX2710 QNIX monitors go on sale for about $200. It's probably one of the best values you'll find. I've not used that brand, but I've had good success with other inexpensive brands. I'd recommend two of them. Other 27" monitors to consider: Acer, BenQ, ASUS, or Dell. If you're not on a tight budget, you might consider something a little bigger with even more pixels: 34" 3440x1440 / 21:9 aspect ratio (e.g., LG, LG, Dell, Samsung) 40" 3840x2160 / 16:9 aspect ratio (e.g., Crossover, Philips, Philips, Seiki) The higher-resolution 34" monitors are overpriced, IMO, compared to the 4Ks. You get a lot more pixels and screen real estate with the 40" 4K for about the same money, or less. I'd personally probably go with two 40" 4K monitors if the prices would come down a bit more. If you go with a 4K monitor, make sure your graphics card can power it and it'll support 4K at a 60Hz refresh rate (requires DP 1.2 or HDMI 2.0). If you go for a smaller 4K, keep in mind that things will either get tiny or you'll need to use DPI scaling, which will effectively reduce the number of usable pixels (but increase the clarity). Also, Windows doesn't have great DPI scaling (though it might be improved in Windows 10), and it varies from app to app. I had two of the first-gen Seiki 40" 4K TVs and used them as monitors, but ended up returning them both due to dead pixels and the limiting 30Hz refresh rate. I liked the size and amount of screen real estate though. Logos looked pretty great on it. P.S. It's also worth considering the type of display (most commonly TN vs. IPS).
I use a 4k monitor and nothing compares. Such clear text and one 4k monitor is perfect for me.
Why would 30 Hz rate be bad for documents?
There's a slightly noticeable delay between moving the mouse and seeing the pointer move on the screen. Many people don't think it's a big deal, as you can see from the reviews of the first-gen Seiki 39" 4K TV. It was a minor annoyance that I could have gotten used to, but the patches of dead pixels were too much. You might not mind 30Hz, but you might want to try before you do. You should be able to change the refresh rate on your current monitor to 30Hz to get the feel for it. It won't be identical, but should be close enough.
Also how many dead pixels did you have and how irritating were they, and were they black (off), or stuck (R,G, or ? I hear a couple or so is normal.
It depended on the monitor. Mine came in patches, which made them more noticeable and annoying. I had anywhere from half a dozen to a dozen, depending on the monitor. I actually went through four of them and ended up sending them all back. Many people had no dead pixels. My experience was probably not normal.
Do you think with Logos (the primary use for this computer) a 3 or 4 dead pixels make it a no go to have such a monitor?
The dead pixels don't really effect its usability. It was more of an annoyance than anything. If I spend a lot of money on something, I like it to be perfect. If you don't have meticulous attention to detail and can live with a little imperfection, you'll probably be fine.
The 4K monitor I own is an Acer XB280HK rated at 60 Hz refresh rate, with a response time of 1ms. It's the first 4K Gsync monitor. I bought it for PC gaming in 4K. Works amazing for Logos!
And, if you're going to invest in a proper monitor, you should also invest in proper peripherals, viz. a 'mechanical' keyboard (I use a Corsair Vengeance RGB K70). Equal attention should be paid for getting a proper mouse and mousepad as well. Not all are created equal by ANY stretch of the means.
The keyboard I have has German Cherry MX Brown mechanical switches. You will type WAY faster and more accurately than with any domed membrane monstrosity of a keyboard.
Peace
