I've seen a few promotions of Christianity Today on my homepage in Logos. Each time I've followed the link, I've noticed that the publication is really just leftist, activist propaganda.
I'm not sure that a publication that promotes the worldly "Gender Identity activism", feminism and reverse-racism can be called a "Christian" publication. Faithlife Corp may argue that point, but should at least respect that many (if not a majority) of Christians have the same sentiments as I do (that promoting the world's agenda is not the same as living for Christ).
Sorry - I'm considering getting a refund for my recent upgrade because I can't conscientiously support you if you support that agenda.
Warm regards,
Brian
Brian,
Faithlife is aggregating a number of Christian News sources for your homepage. You can choose whether you look at the homepage at all (some users don't), whether you have a News feed at all on the homepage (use the gear-wheel to get to the customizing options) and even, which sources to be part of that newsfeed - go to http://news.faithlife.com and then "About / Channels".
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Brian: I've seen a few promotions of Christianity Today on my homepage in Logos. Each time I've followed the link, I've noticed that the publication is really just leftist, activist propaganda. I'm not sure that a publication that promotes the worldly "Gender Identity activism", feminism and reverse-racism can be called a "Christian" publication. Faithlife Corp may argue that point, but should at least respect that many (if not a majority) of Christians have the same sentiments as I do (that promoting the world's agenda is not the same as living for Christ). Sorry - I'm considering getting a refund for my recent upgrade because I can't conscientiously support you if you support that agenda.
if there are Christian views that are incompatible with your own, you may turn them off or ask politely if there is a way to do so. See http://community.logos.com/forums/t/127583.aspx or
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Thanks for the tips.
MJ. Smith: go to news.faithlife.com ==> about ==> channels and turn the specific feed source off
Thanks. I didn't know about this option.
You know, stuff like this raises my blood pressure as well, but on the other hand, I think it's important for us as Christians to know what the thinking is out there, even by those with whom we'd disagree... if nothing else I find it sends me back to the Scriptures to see why I believe what I believe!
Just my two cents!
Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell:You know, stuff like this raises my blood pressure as well,
Whereas it is people griping about it that raises mine I was raised in a community where because of the distances involved it was far more important to get along with your neighbor than to agree with them.
MJ. Smith:it was far more important to get along with your neighbor than to agree with them.
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George Somsel: MJ. Smith:it was far more important to get along with your neighbor than to agree with them. ??
You never knew when you might need them to pull you out of the ditch, feed your animals, cooperate on pest control ... I was nine or ten before I knew I had an uncle who wasn't Republican
MJ. Smith: I was nine or ten before I knew I had an uncle who wasn't Republican
Absolutely scandalous !!!!!!!!!!
The irony here is awesome!
As a conservative Christian, I'm accustomed to people thinking that my voice is the one that should not be heard, and that freedom to enter into public discourse (and to put my money where my heart is) is somehow 'scandalous'. That's okay! I'm used to it.
Putting 'agreement' and 'getting along' at odds with one another creates a false dilemma. 'Helping someone out of a ditch' doesn't equate to agreeing with all that they do or supporting them in those activities with which we disagree.
What you may see as "griping" comes from your own head, not mine.
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Sorry, Brian ... you're to the left of me and others. Search 'trumpet' in the harmonies. Or brass in the Paulines.
Brian:Putting 'agreement' and 'getting along' at odds with one another creates a false dilemma.
MJ did not put "agreement" and "getting along" at odds with each other. Rather, MJ distinguished between them, which is quite a different thing.
Brian:'Helping someone out of a ditch' doesn't equate to agreeing with all that they do or supporting them in those activities with which we disagree.
In this very next sentence, you distinguish between "agreement" and "getting along" too, and your point is the same as hers: getting along with people (enough to help them out of a ditch) does not entail agreeing with their worldviews.
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SineNomine: Brian:Putting 'agreement' and 'getting along' at odds with one another creates a false dilemma. MJ did not put "agreement" and "getting along" at odds with each other. Rather, MJ distinguished between them, which is quite a different thing. Brian:'Helping someone out of a ditch' doesn't equate to agreeing with all that they do or supporting them in those activities with which we disagree. In this very next sentence, you distinguish between "agreement" and "getting along" too, and your point is the same as hers: getting along with people (enough to help them out of a ditch) does not entail agreeing with their worldviews.
It seems to me that the point of disagreement lies somewhere else. The original poster suggests that the editorial views of Christianity Today are inconsistent with his understanding of a traditional Christian worldview. Because of that, he seems to be arguing that it is inconsistent for an avowedly Christian business to be promoting that publication - and by extension, those editorial views - on his home page. M.J., admittedly good-naturedly, suggested that raising this as a concern annoys her.
MJ. Smith: Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell:You know, stuff like this raises my blood pressure as well, Whereas it is people griping about it that raises mine I was raised in a community where because of the distances involved it was far more important to get along with your neighbor than to agree with them.
I like M.J., and find her to be both level-headed and a voice of reason. But it's not surprising that someone would read her statement as at least strongly implying that "getting along" means that you should at a minimum not express any disagreement in instances like this. I suspect that may not have been what she meant to say, but it certainly could be read that way.
EastTN: I suspect that may not have been what she meant to say, but it certainly could be read that way.
You are correct. What annoys me is for people to expect Faithlife to express precisely the interpretation of Bible and ethics that they individually believe. It's fine to say that there are things in the world (and on the Home Page) that you find offensive. It is quite another to expect the world to change rather than (a) exploring the issue to see if there is legitimately more than one view or if yours was a knee-jerk rather than considered reaction (b) or looking for a way to avoid seeing them - like turning them off or skimming past them (c) or recognizing that Faithlife carrying or displaying something does not mean they promote it, only that they see there is a market it serves.
I don't know about you, but I am friends on Facebook with two people in particular with whom I disagree very strongly on political matters. One reposts articles that are in fact interesting because they genuinely represent the rural experience. The other, although a professor, reposts articles that are inaccurate, inflammatory garbage - not that I have an opinion on them or anything. I need only to look at their name and the post topic to move past the garbage or read/skim the rural. But I don't unfriend them because I genuinely care about the families and what to know "what's up" ... and besides they sometimes find truly interesting articles on religion that I would otherwise not see. I see the newsfeed as analogous to Facebook - unfriend (turn off) any source you find no value in.
MJ. Smith: EastTN: I suspect that may not have been what she meant to say, but it certainly could be read that way. You are correct. What annoys me is for people to expect Faithlife to express precisely the interpretation of Bible and ethics that they individually believe. It's fine to say that there are things in the world (and on the Home Page) that you find offensive. It is quite another to expect the world to change rather than (a) exploring the issue to see if there is legitimately more than one view or if yours was a knee-jerk rather than considered reaction (b) or looking for a way to avoid seeing them - like turning them off or skimming past them (c) or recognizing that Faithlife carrying or displaying something does not mean they promote it, only that they see there is a market it serves. I don't know about you, but I am friends on Facebook with two people in particular with whom I disagree very strongly on political matters. One reposts articles that are in fact interesting because they genuinely represent the rural experience. The other, although a professor, reposts articles that are inaccurate, inflammatory garbage - not that I have an opinion on them or anything. I need only to look at their name and the post topic to move past the garbage or read/skim the rural. But I don't unfriend them because I genuinely care about the families and what to know "what's up" ... and besides they sometimes find truly interesting articles on religion that I would otherwise not see. I see the newsfeed as analogous to Facebook - unfriend (turn off) any source you find no value in.
Oh, absolutely - if I wasn't willing to be friends with people who disagree with me, I'd likely have no friends at all! (And my life would be a lot less interesting.)
I do understand both sides, though. When a business creates a "values" connection with its customers, whether it be a Christian retailer, an organic grocery store, or a progressive magazine, it creates certain expectations (which may or may not be reasonable). However those expectations are formed - and whether or not they're consistent with what the business intended to promise - you get a reaction when customers don't think those expectations are being met. I suspect you'd see similar reactions if a vegetarian restaurant posted a flyer for the local community barbecue festival, or the Huffington Post started accepting advertisements from coal companies. (I'm not trying to equate the situations - these are just dumb illustrations of expectations not being met.)
Anyway, thanks for the gracious response. On the surface of it, it seems reasonable to me for a Christian publisher to link to Christianity Today. I just understand how someone else might react differently based on the content.
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