Full feature set or Logos Now?

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Gregg Farah | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Aug 30 2016 12:24 PM

Is it wiser to purchase Logos Now instead of the Logos 7 "full feature set"? If I get Logos Now, don't I get all features of Logos 7?

I understand I'd only have those features for a year and then have to resubscribe to Logos Now, but by then Logos 8 features will be in the works, right?

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Levi Durfey | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 30 2016 12:41 PM

Gregg Farah:
Is it wiser to purchase Logos Now instead of the Logos 7 "full feature set"? If I get Logos Now, don't I get all features of Logos 7?

The answer to that was debated in this thread: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/129395.aspx?PageIndex=2

Copying my own answer from the above thread:

Levi Durfey:

I have been a Logos Now member since last December, but I really thought hard about whether or not to purchase the Full Feature set. In the end, like you, I've also decided not to do so, but just to continue on with Logos Now. I like the early access to new features (although there's only a few I use) and I loved waking up at 3 AM one morning to find Logos 7 downloading—no fuss over what package to buy.

As to cost, $100 a year to rent a powerful tool is a good deal (compare that to other industries, like renting construction equipment). I'll set aside $10 a month from my book fund to pay for it—so it actually makes finances easier for me.

When/if I retire, I'll probably not need all those features that I did not purchase every two years, but I'll still have my books and something to read them on and to search them.

I didn't think I would be, and it took several months to change, but I am happy with Logos Now.

Gregg Farah:
I understand I'd only have those features for a year and then have to resubscribe to Logos Now, but by then Logos 8 features will be in the works, right?

Yes, then you would resubscribe. "Logos 8 features" AKA "Logo Now only features" will be available to Logos Now subscribers sooner than that.

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Erwin Stull, Sr. | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 30 2016 12:58 PM

Gregg Farah:

Is it wiser to purchase Logos Now instead of the Logos 7 "full feature set"? If I get Logos Now, don't I get all features of Logos 7?

The way that I view this is, if funding is an issue, Logos Now is a lot easier to obtain than the Full Feature Set, and it also includes items that an outright purchase of FFS doesn't include. One strategy is to initially subscribe to LN, then work on purchasing a FFS (formally Crossgrade) throughout the 1st year. During the second year, reexamine the need/want of Logos Now.

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 31 2016 12:37 AM

Erwin Stull, Sr.:
The way that I view this is, if funding is an issue,

When funding is an issue one might forget that buying to own on credit is even more expensive.

When working out the 'cost of ownership' factoring in the interest charges may make the 'Rental' of Logos Now an even more attractive option.

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Erwin Stull, Sr. | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 31 2016 7:01 AM

Mike Binks:

Erwin Stull, Sr.:
The way that I view this is, if funding is an issue,

When funding is an issue one might forget that buying to own on credit is even more expensive.

When working out the 'cost of ownership' factoring in the interest charges may make the 'Rental' of Logos Now an even more attractive option.

I forgot about the credit card issues. My view was considering a payment in full and just using a debit/credit card for the transaction, not for the credit. Smile

Interest charges are treacherous. They are designed to keep one in debt if one NEED the credit.Although there is an inclination to blame the devil, the devil can't be blamed for everything. (smile)

Considering the interest charges, is a good point that you made. Often overlooked

Some of the Logos packages can be quite expensive. The Faithlife payment plan is also an option for such packages. Although there is a $5 per payment fee attached, it is nothing compared to the 21+% interest charge of a credit card.

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Gregg Farah | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 2 2016 2:24 PM

Thank you everyone for the helpful replies. Here's a follow up:

I'm currently a Logos 6 owner. I can become a Logos 7 owner (with features) for approx $120. When Logos 8 comes out it will likely be another $120 to upgrade from 7 to 8...right? So if I get Logos Now for 1-2 years (instead of getting full feature set of 7), when Logos 8 arrives, will I have to pay approx $240 because I would be going from Logos 6 to Logos 8?
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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 2 2016 2:37 PM

Gregg Farah:
I'm currently a Logos 6 owner. I can become a Logos 7 owner (with features) for approx $120. When Logos 8 comes out it will likely be another $120 to upgrade from 7 to 8...right? So if I get Logos Now for 1-2 years (instead of getting full feature set of 7), when Logos 8 arrives, will I have to pay approx $240 because I would be going from Logos 6 to Logos 8?

There's a lot of guesswork in your question, and no-one really knows what will happen in two years time. However, if you want to make an outright purchase of the Logos 8 Feature Set (assuming there is such a thing), it's likely to cost you more than the Logos 7 Feature Set does at the moment.

However, if you're still a Logos Now subscriber, then you shouldn't need to buy the Logos 8 Feature Set, because it will be included in your Now membership.

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Gregg Farah | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 2 2016 2:46 PM

thanks!

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 2 2016 3:07 PM

If Logos continues its feature set inflation rate (L5, L6, L7), then you're looking at about 15-17% tack-on at L8.

However, each major release places the Feature Set progressively out of range of people that don't want to play in the Logos big leagues (the Now'ers and Packagers form the present league).

The betting (private) is that Logos will have to introduce levels of features sets to allow affordability ... the price approaching the older precious metal packages, but not so precious names ... tin, iron, nickel, and so on.

"I didn't know God made honky tonk angels."

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John Murphy | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 2 2016 5:58 PM

Good point about the increasing price of Logos, something even the Babylon Bee has noticed:

http://babylonbee.com/news/pastor-takes-second-loan-home-purchase-new-logos-bible-software/

Seems prudent that Logos offers lower priced packages in the future, but I'm just guessing.

John

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PetahChristian | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 2 2016 5:58 PM

Denise:

However, each major release places the Feature Set progressively out of range of people that don't want to play in the Logos big leagues (the Now'ers and Packagers form the present league).

Didn't L7 make it easier for more people to get the feature set? You can get it in an L7 Bronze package (compared to L6 Gold), and I think L7 FFS was even offered for a bit less than what FL had previously charged for the L6 Feature Crossgrade.

My top three Logos 9 Wishlist items: Carta, Dark mode, and Hebrew audio bible, please.

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 2 2016 6:37 PM

Petah... if you joined one of the Logos teams (Now, or bought a package), yes.  My point.  If you quit the league, you'll need a decent nestegg.

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 2 2016 6:51 PM

PetahChristian:
L7 FFS was even offered for a bit less than what FL had previously charged for the L6 Feature Crossgrade.

It definitely has a higher internal discount percentage (1-cost/MSRP), at least when purchased alongside a Library. Smile

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