"Catholic Lectionary" Name Change

Page 1 of 1 (11 items)
This post has 10 Replies | 1 Follower

Posts 489
LogosEmployee
Louis St. Hilaire | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Oct 11 2016 2:25 PM

As part of the update set to be published on Oct. 17, we've decided to change the title of the resource currently known as Catholic Lectionary to Catholic Daily Readings.

The purpose of this is to more clearly distinguish this resource--which dynamically pulls in the text for the readings from the Bible translation of your choice for personal study and devotions--and actual Catholic lectionaries, such as the United States Lectionary for Masswhich contain a translation approved for use in the liturgy. We regularly receive complaints (and typo reports) indicating that some users find the current name misleading.

So, to summarize the resources we currently sell for supporting the modern Latin-rite Catholic lectionary:

  • Catholic Daily Readings (formerly Catholic Lectionary): a dynamic text lectionary, organized by secular calendar date, that gives references for the lectionary readings for each day, and displays them in the Bible translation of your choice. 
  • Lectionary for Mass for Use in the Dioceses of the United States of America: the full text of official U.S. lectionary text, organized like the print lectionary according to the liturgical year (plus commons, votives, etc.)
  • Catholic Daily Readings (U.S. Lectionary): a dynamic text lectionary (only sold together with Lectionary for Mass), organized by secular calendar date, that gives references for the lectionary readings for each day, and displays the official text for use in the U.S. from Lectionary for Mass.

The name change shouldn't cause any problems with home page settings, etc., but it could affect rule-based collections. Please contact customer support if you have any problems.

Posts 23648
Forum MVP
MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 11 2016 2:28 PM

Good choice ... but I suspect there will still be confusion as the RCL daily does not include Sundays and the Catholic version will. Embarrassed Moral: don't trust memory. Double check.

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

Posts 561
Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 11 2016 2:36 PM

I'm a little lost.  What is the practical difference between the 2nd and 3rd items? 

Posts 489
LogosEmployee
Louis St. Hilaire | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 11 2016 4:03 PM

MJ. Smith:

Good choice ... but I suspect there will still be confusion as the RCL daily does not include Sundays and the Catholic version will.

I thought about this, but the RCL Daily Readings does actually include the Sunday readings.

Steve:

I'm a little lost.  What is the practical difference between the 2nd and 3rd items? 

The Lectionary for Mass is just the print lectionary converted into Logos/Verbum format. It's complete, but if you want to find the readings for today (or next Sunday or any date), you need to know what the day is and how to navigate the propers and commons to find the correct readings (and you have to do the navigating yourself).

Catholic Daily Readings (U.S. Lectionary) is a dynamic text lectionary like Catholic Daily Readings. It is a tool (sort of like a print ordo) that helps with this. You just look up today's date (or any date), and it gives you a link to the location(s) in the Lectionary for Mass, and a list of references for the readings, and it uses dynamic text to display the text of the readings from the Lectionary for Mass. Like Catholic Daily Readings, you can select it on your homepage and it will list the readings in the sidebar and let you open them from there.

Posts 39
Average Joe | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 12 2016 7:16 AM

I think that's a good change. I know I was using Verbum for a while before I realized that the "Catholic Lectionary" resource wasn't the actual Lectionary text. With both resources now available, I can see how it would be even more confusing.

Posts 45
Scott Groethe | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 18 2016 7:40 PM

I have a comment/question about the Catholic Lectionary but not about the name.

I was looking at the Index of Readings, which does the seasons first, then the years (2007 through 2019). I am looking at the page I got to through the seasons part of that index, the day or entry I'm looking at right now is "Monday of the Second Week of Advent."

Why is it this covers the years 2007, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2016, 2017 and 2018 but skips 2008, 2009, 2013, 2014 and 2015?

Posts 23648
Forum MVP
MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 18 2016 8:38 PM

I'd have to double check but I suspect the prime candidate is a sanctoral (saints) cycle feast replacing the celebration of the standard weekday.

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

Posts 561
Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 19 2016 5:17 AM

Scott,

I'm having a difficult time trying to see what you are describing.  I have the Catholic Lectionary open to Monday of the Second Week of Advent and see the following:

I'm not seeing any year designations so I think I am not in the same resource you are using or I'm looking for something with the wrong place.

Can you post a screen shot of what you are referencing?

Posts 489
LogosEmployee
Louis St. Hilaire | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Dec 19 2016 9:27 AM

Scott Groethe:

I have a comment/question about the Catholic Lectionary but not about the name.

I was looking at the Index of Readings, which does the seasons first, then the years (2007 through 2019). I am looking at the page I got to through the seasons part of that index, the day or entry I'm looking at right now is "Monday of the Second Week of Advent."

Why is it this covers the years 2007, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2016, 2017 and 2018 but skips 2008, 2009, 2013, 2014 and 2015?

MJ is correct, this is due to the Monday after the Second Sunday of Advent falling on Dec. 7 or Dec. 8 and the Advent weekday liturgy being displaced by the memorial of St. Ambrose or the solemnity of the Immaculate Conception in those years.

Steve:
I have the Catholic Lectionary open to Monday of the Second Week of Advent and see the following:

He's referring to Catholic Daily Readings. You're looking at Lectionary for Mass.

Posts 1
Joan Grabowski | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 11 2017 6:18 PM

May I ask -- Ia that screen schot of a website, of a program/application you bought?  Thanks and blessings.

Posts 561
Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 11 2017 6:43 PM

Hi Joan,

Welcome to the forums.  Smile  The screen shot you are seeing in this thread, including the last one, is from the Verbum program/application.  You can learn more here:

https://verbum.com/about/what-is-verbum

Please feel free to ask as many questions as you like.

Page 1 of 1 (11 items) | RSS
Copyright 1992-2015 Faithlife / Logos Bible Software.