Logos 7 Basic Available Now (formerly free core engine)
Update now to the Logos 7 platform with Logos 7 Basic.
Logos 7 Basic is the free version of our Logos Bible Study application, allowing you to try a limited-feature version until you’re ready to get the fully-featured version of Logos 7. With no credit card required, you can get started with Logos 7 Basic today and enjoy a few of the features we’ve included, as well as select datasets, books, and other resources*.
If you’re on a previous version of Logos, Logos 7 Basic will update you to the Logos 7 version of our software. While Logos 7 Basic is not the full-featured version of Logos 7, it is an application version update, with a few additional datasets and resources added in.
*The features, datasets, and books provided in Logos 7 Basic are “access-only”, which means you have access to them, but do not own them permanently.
When you’re ready to get the full-feature version of Logos 7, along with a Logos 7 library, all you need to do is upgrade to one of your options here.
Tell a friend—Biblical insights are within reach!
Bible software can be expensive and can feel out of reach for many potential customers, and getting started with a complicated tool can be intimidating. You can feel good about recommending Logos 7 Basic to family and friends and introducing them to digital Bible study.
Cost. Logos 7 Basic is a great way to introduce your family and friends to the digital Bible study you love, at a price within everyone’s reach—FREE!
Simplified. Logos 7 Basic is a limited-feature version of Logos that will help those you care about get comfortable with using Bible software. Plus, we include a free course on how to use Logos, right inside the software.
Accessible. With our desktop and mobile apps, Bible study is always within reach because Logos 7 Basic works on Android/iOS tablets and smartphones, and Mac or PC desktop computers.
Email a friend today and recommend Logos 7 Basic, and help them put Biblical insights within reach.
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Chris, absolutely excellent.
Even includes interlinears and some basic lexicons. New Treasury. Nice.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Question: Is the Personal Book feature part of the Logos Basic Free "Package"?
DAL
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Milkmam, true!
That's the remains of a church built maybe 400 years ago, at the end of a dusty road 2,000 miles long. The single missionary in the middle of nowhere was expected to be well versed in construction. And so, last week, a truly bored park ranger sat discussing with me the various construction talents of 3 example missionaries, complete with the challenges of foundational geology, load-bearing walls, and the rear angle of the worship hall (a hair more than 90 degrees). Quite amazing.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Yes, this is great. I'm going to write a post on my blog; I think Logos can definitely attract some more users with this.
"The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected."- G.K. Chesterton
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Ben said:
Yes, this is great. I'm going to write a post on my blog; I think Logos can definitely attract some more users with this.
I agree, and it even includes a KJV, which is our default translation. I may be able to get some of our members interested.
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DAL said:
Question: Is the Personal Book feature part of the Logos Basic Free "Package"?
Yes, Tools menu has seven items in light grey that are not usable. Basic package(s) enable functionality for many items in 30 Day Training => https://www.logos.com/30-day-training (with four Documents not being usable: Morph Query, Sentence Diagram, Sermon, Syntax Search)
Thankful for two Basic packages => Basic and => Verbum Basic that enables a number of features, which could be followed by purchase(s) and/or rental(s). Access-only resources with temporary license has no effect on dynamic pricing for future purchase(s).
Keep Smiling [:)]
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Before I go plugging this everywhere, I do not wish to mislead. Does this sentence mean that a feature or resource may randomly disappear in a month, or without warning?
"*The features, datasets, and books provided in Logos 7 Basic are “access-only”, which means you have access to them, but do not own them permanently."
"The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected."- G.K. Chesterton
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Ben said:
Does this sentence mean that a feature or resource may randomly disappear in a month, or without warning?
I'm sure FL will chime in, but it is my understanding "yes, but no." I was led to believe that this is an introduction to the platform. It wouldn't make sense to randomly delete things. The primary thing to note is that you don't actually own any licenses for these resources, and consequently, you won't receive dynamic pricing for them in the future.
One thing which wasn't clear: Will these resources be made available to the user on mobile?
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DAL said:
Question: Is the Personal Book feature part of the Logos Basic Free "Package"?
Yes, Tools menu has seven items in light grey that are not usable. Basic package(s) enable functionality for many items in 30 Day Training => https://www.logos.com/30-day-training (with four Documents not being usable: Morph Query, Sentence Diagram, Sermon, Syntax Search)
Thankful for two Basic packages => Basic and => Verbum Basic that enables a number of features, which could be followed by purchase(s) and/or rental(s). Access-only resources with temporary license has no effect on dynamic pricing for future purchase(s).
Keep Smiling
Awesome! Thank you 😊
DAL
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Thanks for the reply. Nice story and amazing indeed.
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Denise said:Milkmam, true!
That's the remains of a church built maybe 400 years ago, at the end of a dusty road 2,000 miles long. The single missionary in the middle of nowhere was expected to be well versed in construction. And so, last week, a truly bored park ranger sat discussing with me the various construction talents of 3 example missionaries, complete with the challenges of foundational geology, load-bearing walls, and the rear angle of the worship hall (a hair more than 90 degrees). Quite amazing.
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As usual, either a sloppy presentation or misleading. According to the above, if we switch from Logos 6 to Logos 7, we lose the Atlas, Bible Sense. Timeline, Passage Analysis, and Pronunciation. I certainly won't be taking that step until such time as that's cleared up for us.
Longtime Logos user (more than $30,000 in purchases) - now a second class user because I won't pay them more every month or year.
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Alex Scott said:
As usual, either a sloppy presentation or misleading. According to the above, if we switch from Logos 6 to Logos 7, we lose the Atlas, Bible Sense. Timeline, Passage Analysis, and Pronunciation. I certainly won't be taking that step until such time as that's cleared up for us.
No, you don't lose them if you had them in L6.
The diagram KS4J showed above indicates what your get if you didn't have any package at all previously
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Alex Scott said:
As usual, either a sloppy presentation or misleading. According to the above, if we switch from Logos 6 to Logos 7, we lose the Atlas, Bible Sense. Timeline, Passage Analysis, and Pronunciation. I certainly won't be taking that step until such time as that's cleared up for us.
No, that's a misunderstanding of how licensing works. Since you already own those features, you will still own those features when you upgrade to the free Logos 7 engine.
Logos 7 Basic doesn't remove any features you already have. It adds features where people who did not have Logos had none.
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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This is great!
I've posted a link to it to my Facebook feed, and on a private Facebook group for pastors (only) in my denomination (the Christian Reformed Church).Help links: WIKI; Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)
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Logos 7 Basic is a very nice way to allow people who are using the many free engines that provide limited (usually public domain works) library packages to experience a system that will match their current use, put also provide features and a potential library that they have not experienced. I have been using Logos since version 3 when it was available on CD with a library of resources that matched a particular interest and didn't have a particularly high purchase price. The first package I bought demonstrated the usefulness of the Logos system and I purchased other packages that addressed my particular interests. Logos 7 Basic will provide the same opportunity to those who missed the Logos 3 era.
Joseph F. Sollenberger, Jr.
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A Pocket Lexicon to the Greek New Testament is listing as new to me despite I having logos now and a logos 7 base package. Why is that?
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The Pocket Lexicon to the Greek New Testament is not bundled with Logos Now, or a Logos 7 library.
It is really new to you, since you don't already own it.
It would have been less confusing if Basic was a subset of a higher tier, showing you owned everything, but FL chose an inexpensive lexicon that doesn't happen to come with any other L7 library.
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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Mark said:
A Pocket Lexicon to the Greek New Testament is listing as new to me despite I having logos now and a logos 7 base package. Why is that?
PetahChristian said:The Pocket Lexicon to the Greek New Testament is not bundled with Logos Now, or a Logos 7 library.
PetahChristian answered well, but for clarification: If the use of an item is acquired via a LN membership, it should still show as unowned on the product page because you don't own it.
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Thanks for those replies. So if I wanted this resource, I could now 'purchase' the base package for nothing and have access to it. Is that correct?
I really think the idea of a base package is great. It is about time.
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Chris duMond said:
Tell a friend—Biblical insights are within reach!
Bible software can be expensive and can feel out of reach for many potential customers, and getting started with a complicated tool can be intimidating. You can feel good about recommending Logos 7 Basic to family and friends and introducing them to digital Bible study.
Cost. Logos 7 Basic is a great way to introduce your family and friends to the digital Bible study you love, at a price within everyone’s reach—FREE!
Simplified. Logos 7 Basic is a limited-feature version of Logos that will help those you care about get comfortable with using Bible software. Plus, we include a free course on how to use Logos, right inside the software.
Accessible. With our desktop and mobile apps, Bible study is always within reach because Logos 7 Basic works on Android/iOS tablets and smartphones, and Mac or PC desktop computers.
Email a friend today and recommend Logos 7 Basic, and help them put Biblical insights within reach.
Or recommend Logos 7 Basic on:
So do we get a reward or coupon for recommending Logos to friends and family, like a referral program?
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Yes, you can get this for free too. [;)]Kiyah said:So do we get a reward or coupon for recommending Logos to friends and family, like a referral program?
In all seriousness, there used to be a referral program, but I think it is now defunct. If I am wrong hopefully someone will chime in. It would be unrelated to this offer, however. FL isn't going to give you anything for leading others to "purchase" a free base package.macOS, iOS & iPadOS |Logs| Install
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alabama24 said:
Yes, you can get this for free too.Kiyah said:So do we get a reward or coupon for recommending Logos to friends and family, like a referral program?
In all seriousness, there used to be a referral program, but I think it is now defunct. If I am wrong hopefully someone will chime in. It would be unrelated to this offer, however. FL isn't going to give you anything for leading others to "purchase" a free base package. True. But if they had a referral program that kept track of who eventually upgraded to a base package and rewarded folks then that might work. People spend thousands of dollars on Logos resources and upgrades once they're hooked, so I figure even if they have a temporary promotional referral program that could be worth it for Faithlife.
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Is there a Verbum Basic?
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Steve said:
Is there a Verbum Basic?
https://www.logos.com/product/136168/verbum-basic but there are no details of the available datasets.
Dave
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Dave Hooton said:Steve said:
Is there a Verbum Basic?
https://www.logos.com/product/136168/verbum-basic but there are no details of the available datasets.
If you already own a feature set, you have to sign out of the site (or visit the page in incognito browsing mode) to be able to see the features.
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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this is a great thing!
may I make a suggestion? Would it not be good to include SBL Greek, since it is free anyway and it will give the prospective new user the ability to play around with original language stuff?
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PetahChristian said:
If you already own a feature set, you have to sign out of the site (or visit the page in incognito browsing mode)
Then it is configured differently to Logos 7 basic which is complete when signed in, as with other Logos 7 Feature and Library sites.
The Verbum site also tells us how to "Do More With Logos 6"!
Dave
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Dave Hooton said:PetahChristian said:
If you already own a feature set, you have to sign out of the site (or visit the page in incognito browsing mode)
Then it is configured differently to Logos 7 basic which is complete when signed in, as with other Logos 7 Feature and Library sites.
You're right, Dave. My mistake!
I wonder why Verbum Basic uses the older product page, as all the other Verbum tiers list their features. Sounds like FL needs to fix that page.
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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This is really really good. Thanks.
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Is there a Basic Logos in Spanish?
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Ben said:
Before I go plugging this everywhere, I do not wish to mislead. Does this sentence mean that a feature or resource may randomly disappear in a month, or without warning?
"*The features, datasets, and books provided in Logos 7 Basic are “access-only”, which means you have access to them, but do not own them permanently."
I'm also interested in hearing a definitive answer from Faithlife staff about this before I can recommend it.
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Allen Browne said:Ben said:
Before I go plugging this everywhere, I do not wish to mislead. Does this sentence mean that a feature or resource may randomly disappear in a month, or without warning?
"*The features, datasets, and books provided in Logos 7 Basic are “access-only”, which means you have access to them, but do not own them permanently."
I'm also interested in hearing a definitive answer from Faithlife staff about this before I can recommend it.
Ben and Allen, I'm sorry for the delay in replying to this question. Logos Basic has far exceeded our wildest expectations so far. We weren't planning to officially launch it until Monday, but it's already gone viral on its own—globally—via social media. So we had to accelerate some our of plans for Monday.
Here's the way we're thinking about access vs. ownership:
- We're modeling this after the approach we've taken with our mobile apps. Users who download the Logos Bible app get access to some free resources, but they don't own them. This allows us to change the contents quite easily: add a new resource, swap one for another, or in rare cases remove when when a rightsholder no longer wants their resource included.
- We don't plan to make many changes to the contents of the product. A user can count on having a good solid core of Bible study tools and content, even if there is some slight variation occasionally.
- When we do make changes, it's more likely that we'll swap or add something than remove it.
- When we're swapping or removing a title, we'll try to get sufficient advanced notice—and we'll probably provide the opportunity to purchase it at a discount to keep it permanently.
- We'll probably experiment with adding a free interactive, dataset, feature, or book free for a week every once in a while to allow people to try out some of the things not included in Basic. For example, we may grant free access to the Psalms Explorer interactive resource for one week. Having the collection be access-only makes that really easy for us to execute.
Several of the items included in Logos Basic are available separately for free on Logos.com. A user could buy them to convert their temporary licenses into permanent ones. That's probably a good idea for everyone to do.
I hope this helps. Let me know if there's anything that needs further clarification.
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alabama24 said:
One thing which wasn't clear: Will these resources be made available to the user on mobile?
Yes.
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PetahChristian said:Alex Scott said:
As usual, either a sloppy presentation or misleading. According to the above, if we switch from Logos 6 to Logos 7, we lose the Atlas, Bible Sense. Timeline, Passage Analysis, and Pronunciation. I certainly won't be taking that step until such time as that's cleared up for us.
No, that's a misunderstanding of how licensing works. Since you already own those features, you will still own those features when you upgrade to the free Logos 7 engine.
Logos 7 Basic doesn't remove any features you already have. It adds features where people who did not have Logos had none.
Correct. We don't revoke your permanent licenses.
Logos 7 Basic is aimed at the new user, but will also serve as the free update to Logos 7 for the existing base package owner.
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Thank you, Phil, for the clarifications, and Faithlife for the good idea.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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One other question: has consideration been given to having a Logos 7 Basic Forum?
I know we have a lot of forums, but new users might find it helpful to browse in a Forum addressing only their limited set of resources and capabilities. (Then, again, they'd see some other things Logos could do by coming to the Logos 7 Forum.) Just a thought.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:
Here's the way we're thinking about access vs. ownership:
Thanks, Phil. That clarifies it.
Appreciated.
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Mark Smith said:
Thank you, Phil, for the clarifications, and Faithlife for the good idea.
You're welcome, Mark. We're excited about the potential of introducing millions of people to deeper Bible study who either couldn't otherwise afford it or wouldn't be able to justify the expense without first trying it.
Mark Smith said:One other question: has consideration been given to having a Logos 7 Basic Forum?
I know we have a lot of forums, but new users might find it helpful to browse in a Forum addressing only their limited set of resources and capabilities. (Then, again, they'd see some other things Logos could do by coming to the Logos 7 Forum.) Just a thought.
Yes. We discussed this on Friday. We'll definitely have a Faithlife group, but we may have a forum as well for those who make their way there and need beginner-level help. Thanks for suggesting it.
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Allen Browne said:Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:
Here's the way we're thinking about access vs. ownership:
Thanks, Phil. That clarifies it.
Appreciated.
Great. You're welcome!
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I am very thankful for the free Logos 7 basic. I do have one question: My reverse interlinear Bibles now show Person tagging, when right-clicking on a name and I can jump from there to Factbook. But a bible search for a person (for example <Person Joshua (son of Nun)>) will not show any results. Is that expected behavior? In Factbook I can basically see that information in the Lemmas section, but there it is of course sorted by the different lemmas used.
(I don't own any previous base package. I have already rebuild my index.)
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Bernhard said:
Is that expected behavior?
I also get no results in Logos 7 Basic when I run your search. It is unexpected, since Logos forms the search from the right click menu, but produces no results.
I doubt this is meant to happen.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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Mark Smith said:Bernhard said:
Is that expected behavior?
I also get no results in Logos 7 Basic when I run your search. It is unexpected, since Logos forms the search from the right click menu, but produces no results.
I doubt this is meant to happen.
You will not get results in your Bibles because L7 Basic does not include the Biblical Referents database which makes those <Person> searches possible**. The Biblical People dataset in L7 Basic provides (I think) some data for Factbook and allows the recognition of proper names for <Person> in the Context menu of bibles. This includes instances where, for example, "Jerusalem" means "people of Jerusalem", otherwise Places and Things are not recognised because their datasets are not included. The Referents database also allows recognition (and searches) for pronouns, verbs and even adjectives where they refer to a Person, Place or Thing.
** you will get results in non-bible resources where there is a media tag for <Person>. Referents works in original language bibles and reverse interlinear bibles that have morphology.
NB I have recommended that FL include the Referents database in Basic (which probably means they also have to include Biblical Places and Biblical Things datasets).
Dave
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Is the new sermon writing guide/tool included in the free logos 7 basic download?
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Dave Hooton said:
NB I have recommended that FL include the Referents database in Basic (which probably means they also have to include Biblical Places and Biblical Things datasets).
Thanks for the under-the-hood explanation, Dave.
If FL wants people to get a real feel for the software, they should add the referents dataset. I think places and things would be extra helpful to add as well. That would mean expanding Factbook, too, which would be a good thing.
As it is, there will be inevitable questions (like the one just asked) about why a search that the software offers doesn't work. That will produce frustration and disappointment.
You get one chance to make a good first impression. I hope FL will reconsider your suggestion.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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Pastor Mike said:
Is the new sermon writing guide/tool included in the free logos 7 basic download?
The Sermon Starter Guide is. The Sermon Document (the authoring tool) is not.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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What happens when a Logos Now user having a Logos 6 base package gets logos 7 Basic?
I assume nothing changes. Except for owning the Logos 7 Basic engine added to his base package. Right?
Luuk
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Luuk Dondorp said:
I assume nothing changes. Except for owning the Logos 7 Basic engine added to his base package. Right?
Your engine changes to Logos 7. You may get a resource or two you don't already have (access-only, not ownership).
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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