Trying to understand the Proclaim sizing algorithm

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Oct 23 2017 3:01 AM

I understand - I think - that if I try to increase the font size in a slide to something that would cause lines to start wrapping then Proclaim effectively prevents this happening.

When experimenting with this yesterday it appeared that trying to increase the font size from 55-56 on a Bible slide actually reduced the size of the text! Does this make any sense?

Is there a description somewhere of how the sizing decisions are made so I can clearly understand how it works?

And is it the same across content types - Bible, Song, etc?

Thanks, Graham

PS: If anyone from Faithlife wants to look at the slide I was experimenting with it is in the presentation called "evening 22 Oct" and the slide is the first one on the set with Matthew 18:1-14.

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Justin (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 23 2017 10:50 AM

Hello,

I see what you are referring to.  I believe that behaviour is arising because you have reachedhe maximum size for the text box.  The maximum size is determined by how much content is in each "paragraph".  Each paragraph is it's own slide, so the more content in the paragraphs, the smaller the maximum font size.  In the case of the Bible slides, each paragraph influences each other so the sizing must be the same throughout as they are in series. 

This is the same for content and song slides as well.  Take a look at the picture below, there are three different text boxes each with their own unique settings.  But since this is a Bible slide, certain text boxes (such as the selected blue one) are set to the same formatting throughout.

Hopefully that explanation isn't too confusing.  If you wanted an individual  text box that wouldn't be persistent through each slide, you'd have to select "Add Text Field" and it would have it's own formatting domain.   

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 23 2017 11:57 AM

Hi Justin

Thanks for looking into it and the detailed reply.

I think it makes sense - I'll play with it and post back with any further questions.

Thanks again, Graham

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Bob Pritchett | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 24 2017 5:10 PM

In simple terms, the font size is 'the maximum size.' Proclaim will try to fit the text in the box, but will never make it larger than the maximum size.

The exception is Sermon and Bible slides, that can spread the content over multiple slides automatically; there it works the same but also interacts with paragraph boundaries, etc.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 24 2017 8:17 PM

Thanks Bob

Very helpful

Appreciated, Graham 

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Bill Stewart | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 10 2018 1:36 PM

Justin,

Re: your statement above "Each paragraph is it's own slide, so the more content in the paragraphs, the smaller the maximum font size.  In the case of the Bible slides, each paragraph influences each other so the sizing must be the same throughout as they are in series. "

I would submit this is a design defect.  The unintended side effect is that the program produces slides that are unreadable to the congregation.  Check out EP 5:33 in Amplified and display this on a television (which is all we have for monitors).

I encountered this defect when preparing the slides for tomorrow's service.  Nobody is going to be able to read the content and I'm at a loss for what to do.

Bill Stewart

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 10 2018 2:55 PM

Bill Stewart:
I would submit this is a design defect.  The unintended side effect is that the program produces slides that are unreadable to the congregation.  Check out EP 5:33 in Amplified and display this on a television (which is all we have for monitors).

Do you mean Ephesians 5:33?

If so, it looks as though it fits to me - it ends up with 60pt font. Can you post a screenshot showing what you are seeing?

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Justin (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 11 2018 5:16 AM

Hi Graham,

Bill's shared some more information and pictures here: https://faithlife.com/posts/1245580

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