Dataset Updates: December 18, 2017

Rick Brannan (Logos)

Merry Christmas! Today we have a bonus dataset/resource update.

The following datasets are scheduled to be updated on Monday, December 18, 2017:

Reverse Interlinears

RSV: Some of these components may be licensed by Logos Now

Old Testament
Apocrypha (now complete)
New Testament

NIV84:

Old Testament
New Testament

Other Updated Datasets / Components

Ancient Literature (Localization Updates)
LCV Concepts

IB103 Principios de interpretacion biblica (Craig Keener)

Bible Sense Lexicon (Localization Updates)

If for some reason these updates are not made available today (Monday, December 18) I will update this thread.

Our next anticipated dataset update will be January 2, 2018. Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year!

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Scott E. Mahle

Reverse Interlinears

RSV: Some of these components may be licensed by Logos Now

Old Testament

Apocrypha (now complete)

New Testament

NIV84:

Old Testament

New Testament

A very Merry Christmas, indeed! Thank you! [Y]

Francis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/943962#Comment_943962

Thanks, Rick, for the update. Hoping that Christmas will be a blessed time for all at Faithlife.

Marshall Harrison

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/943965#Comment_943965

Thanks Rick!

I saw those come through yesterday but though they were part of a feature set purchase I made.

Merry Christmas to FaithLife and everyone else in this community.

Jacques

Reverse Interlinears

RSV: Some of these components may be licensed by Logos Now

Old Testament

Apocrypha (now complete)

New Testament

NIV84:

Old Testament

New Testament

Not sure if this is a typo or if the NIV84 now also includes a OT RI. Nothing updated for the Old Testament, so probably just an oversight?

Scott E. Mahle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/944178#Comment_944178

Reverse Interlinears

RSV: Some of these components may be licensed by Logos Now

Old Testament

Apocrypha (now complete)

New Testament

NIV84:

Old Testament

New Testament

Not sure if this is a typo or if the NIV84 now also includes a OT RI. Nothing updated for the Old Testament, so probably just an oversight?

You should now have the NIV84 OT RI.

Jacques

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/944181#Comment_944181

Thanks Scott, great news.

Will investigate further why it is not showing up for me.

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/944185#Comment_944185

Will investigate further why it is not showing up for me.

The NIV84 Old Testament Reverse Interlinear was included in Logos 4 (and maybe Logos 5?) base packages. It is not included in Logos Now nor available for standalone sale. (I have no information on whether this will ever change.) It's being delivered now to customers who purchased it in Logos 4.

(Edit: As far as I can tell, Logos 5 base packages included the NIV2011 reverse interlinear, but not NIV84.)

Bobby Terhune

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/944190#Comment_944190

From what I understand, Zondervan required all Bible software publishers to stop selling the NIV 1984 edition. Zondervan only licensed the NIV 2011 in its place. So if you had a previous license for it, great, if not then the 2011 version is the only one available right now.

Jacques

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/944190#Comment_944190

Thank you Bradley for your detailed response.

I had the NIV84 since Logos 2. I only got the Logos 4 crossgrade, so I probably lost out on the OT RI during that upgrade. It seems I'm stuck with only the NT RI.

Thanks anyway, puzzle solved

Marshall Harrison

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/944198#Comment_944198

Thank you Bradley for your detailed response.

I had the NIV84 since Logos 2. I only got the Logos 4 crossgrade, so I probably lost out on the OT RI during that upgrade. It seems I'm stuck with only the NT RI.

Thanks anyway, puzzle solved

If my memory is correct I have had every update since Logos 2. I have the NIV84 but only showed the NT RI dataset upgraded for NIV84.

Marshall Harrison

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/944201#Comment_944201

Where are you seeing all this info? I see this:

But when I click the drop down arrow I only see a small list that looks nothing like what everyone is showing.

Scott E. Mahle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/944204#Comment_944204

Where are you seeing all this info? I see this:

But when I click the drop down arrow I only see a small list that looks nothing like what everyone is showing.

Open the resource and click on the information tab on the right side - it's an i with a circle around it.

Scott E. Mahle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/944190#Comment_944190

It is not included in Logos Now nor available for standalone sale.

Hmmm . . . I certainly hope there’s a meeting concerning this initial decision. Logos has gone and created something (for which I am very grateful was fulfilled) for a product Logos no longer sells. Why not offer it for sale to those who have the NIV84?

That just seems like a strange business decision. I mean, you’re only going to make X amount from it no matter what since you don’t sell the resource anymore. Why not have a few happy customers and make a little money in the process?

Just a thought. I’ll leave it to those who want it to chime in now . . .

Marshall Harrison

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/944210#Comment_944210

Thanks Scott.

When I open the NIV84 to the OT it looks like this with gaps where the interlinear should be.

The NT shows the Interlinear like it is supposed to.

Scott E. Mahle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/944212#Comment_944212

It would appear you do not have access to the OT RI, as well. I would start a new thread in the suggestion forum, if I wanted it, and let my voice be heard [;)]

Rick Brannan (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/944210#Comment_944210

Hi Scott

It is not included in Logos Now nor available for standalone sale.

Hmmm . . . I certainly hope there’s a meeting concerning this initial decision. Logos has gone and created something (for which I am very grateful was fulfilled) for a product Logos no longer sells. Why not offer it for sale to those who have the NIV84?

We've known there are a sizeable amount of unfulfilled licenses for the NIV84 OT Reverse Interlinear for years. We did some analysis of what it would take to get the necessary resource together, and discovered we could do this particular resource more efficiently than before based on some process improvements we've made, so we decided to do it to deliver on the license that many users received back in the Logos 4 days.

As Bradley indicates, it is not part of Logos Now, and it is not presently available for standalone sale (nor is the NIV84 NT Reverse Interlinear, for that matter). Will that change in the future? Who knows. I've learned to never say never, because two years ago I would've told you the NIV84 OT Reverse Interlinear would never happen.

Jacques

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/944216#Comment_944216

As Bradley indicates, it is not part of Logos Now, and it is not presently available for standalone sale (nor is the NIV84 NT Reverse Interlinear, for that matter). Will that change in the future? Who knows. I've learned to never say never, because two years ago I would've told you the NIV84 OT Reverse Interlinear would never happen.

Apparently the NT RI is available for purchase in Feature Sets.

Scott E. Mahle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/944216#Comment_944216

Who knows. I've learned to never say never, because two years ago I would've told you the NIV84 OT Reverse Interlinear would never happen.

Hello Rick!

Two years ago I would have believed you [:)]. I'm actually still quite amazed it was delivered. That was a great Christmas present!

Maybe if those who don't have it, but would like it, let their collective voices be heard, Logos will open it for sale or drop it in a feature set.

Rick Brannan (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/944218#Comment_944218

Apparently the NT RI is available for purchase in Feature Sets.

Thank you for the info, Jacques. I was unaware.

Marshall Harrison

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/944215#Comment_944215

It would appear you do not have access to the OT RI, as well. I would start a new thread in the suggestion forum, if I wanted it, and let my voice be heard

Done - http://community.logos.com/forums/p/156424/944220.aspx#944220

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/944222#Comment_944222

Hi all,

We will be adding this to Logos Now, Logos Cloud, and Feature Sets. It will eventually be available for individual sale.

Thanks!

Jacques

This is really no big deal - sometimes you loose out on a sale or a purchase - that's life. I have long since migrated to the NIV2011 due to the availability of the RI's.

I want to use this opportunity to thank everyone at Faithlife responsible for the Reverse Interlinear functionality in so many of our Bibles - it is really a tool that I deeply appreciate. I still remember that in Libronix it was a separate resource and my Afrikaans Bibles still only have a few words tagged with Strong's Numbers and TVM. The new integrated RI functionality since Logos 4 is really superb!

Scott E. Mahle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/944224#Comment_944224

Hi all,

We will be adding this to Logos Now, Logos Cloud, and Feature Sets. It will eventually be available for individual sale.

Thanks!

Merry Christmas one and all! Thank you, Ben, and all the Faithlife staff for everything you do.

Marshall Harrison

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/944224#Comment_944224

Hi all,

We will be adding this to Logos Now, Logos Cloud, and Feature Sets. It will eventually be available for individual sale.

Thanks!

Thanks Ben.

Mr. Simple

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/944221#Comment_944221

I have had Logos since version 4. I do not see any evidence of NIV84 in my resources. Should I have them. Not sure based on this thread.

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/944252#Comment_944252

I have had Logos since version 4. I do not see any evidence of NIV84 in my resources. Should I have them. Not sure based on this thread.

You will only have NIV84 If you purchased it.

I think it was included in a Logos 4 base package but not sure now.

Doc B

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/944216#Comment_944216

we decided to do it to deliver on the license that many users received back in the Logos 4 days

I am one of those users, but didn't get the OT RI.

Even after reading the thread, I'm still confused as to why not.

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/944255#Comment_944255

I think it was included in a Logos 4 base package but not sure now.

It was included with EARLY L4 base packages, but not with later ones. I bought my first base package around the time but bought a "later" package. Back in the day, most users seemed to think the earlier ones were a better deal. The later ones came with the NIV11 RI's. I happened to acquire my NIV84 (and RI) via a license transfer.

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/944257#Comment_944257

I am one of those users, but didn't get the OT RI.

...Mine just came in now.

NB.Mick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/944224#Comment_944224

Hi all,

We will be adding this to Logos Now, Logos Cloud, and Feature Sets.

Thanks! That was real quick!

Marshall Harrison

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/944263#Comment_944263

Hi all,

We will be adding this to Logos Now, Logos Cloud, and Feature Sets.

Thanks! That was real quick!

Yes, Mine just came in too.

Thanks Logos!

Marshall Harrison

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/944258#Comment_944258

I think it was included in a Logos 4 base package but not sure now.

It was included with EARLY L4 base packages, but not with later ones. I bought my first base package around the time but bought a "later" package. Back in the day, most users seemed to think the earlier ones were a better deal. The later ones came with the NIV11 RI's. I happened to acquire my NIV84 (and RI) via a license transfer.

Not sure when I got mine. But I started with Logos Level 2 when it was still on floppies.

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/944276#Comment_944276

I had some resources prior, but was not a big user and stopped when I switched to Mac. I wished the Mac version had come out earlier in my Seminary career!

Doc B

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/944257#Comment_944257

I am one of those users, but didn't get the OT RI.

Even after reading the thread, I'm still confused as to why not.

Well, the mystery is solved. It downloaded a few minutes ago.

Fr Devin Roza

Reverse Interlinears

RSV: Some of these components may be licensed by Logos Now

Old Testament

Apocrypha (now complete)

New Testament

NIV84:

Old Testament

New Testament

Thanks, Rick. Merry Christmas! Did the RSV update include the different RSV versions (RSVCE, RSVC2E), or is it limited to just the RSV for now?

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/944409#Comment_944409

Did the RSV update include the different RSV versions (RSVCE, RSVC2E), or is it limited to just the RSV for now?

Thread => Dataset Updates: October 16, 2017 includes RSV2CE interlinears for those who have RSV2CE license.

Keep Smiling [:)]

Rick Brannan (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/944409#Comment_944409

Thanks, Rick. Merry Christmas! Did the RSV update include the different RSV versions (RSVCE, RSVC2E), or is it limited to just the RSV for now?

Only the RSV. It has apocryphal books in addition to the deuterocanon (e.g. 3 & 4 Maccabees) that were not aligned. This update completes the RSV reverse interlinear material.

SineNomine

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/944503#Comment_944503

So now I have the OT RI for a Bible translation I don't have (NIV 1984). Is there any way for me to benefit from this RI?

Richard Lyall

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/944843#Comment_944843

I've just caught wind of this. I've had the NIV84 since time immemorial, and just noticed the OT Interlinear appearing today where there used to be a blank panel. It's a real blessing to have it there, so thanks to everyone for making it available.

Marshall Harrison

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/953460#Comment_953460

I've just caught wind of this. I've had the NIV84 since time immemorial, and just noticed the OT Interlinear appearing today where there used to be a blank panel. It's a real blessing to have it there, so thanks to everyone for making it available.

Better late than never...

Dan Francis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/953464#Comment_953464

Better late than never...

When it was initially canceled there were many very upset, I am glad for those who really wanted it that it is finally in place. I am sure there are many now who simply wish they could buy the 1984 NIV (I am not one of them preferring 2011). Although since the NIV 1984 Anglicised edition is still available and it is just minor word and spelling variants it might be very easy to do the RI for it.

-Dan