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Don Awalt | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 22 2018 5:14 AM

Also this one, written by a seminary professor of mine! We used this book, I thought it was very good:

https://www.logos.com/product/148424/apostle-of-the-crucified-lord-a-theological-introduction-to-paul-and-his-letters-second-edition 

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Deacon Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 22 2018 1:17 PM

Don Awalt:

Also this one, written by a seminary professor of mine! We used this book, I thought it was very good:

https://www.logos.com/product/148424/apostle-of-the-crucified-lord-a-theological-introduction-to-paul-and-his-letters-second-edition 

Thomas Gette - I' don't see the resource Deacon Don mentions as being tagged "Catholic."  Maybe it should be.  ??

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David Ames | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 22 2018 2:31 PM

Thanks for the heads up to check PrePub ship dates.  

A while back there were some that regularly would recommend soon to be shipped books.  They were very useful in expanding my collection.

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 23 2018 6:17 PM

Steve:

Don Awalt:

Also this one, written by a seminary professor of mine! We used this book, I thought it was very good:

https://www.logos.com/product/148424/apostle-of-the-crucified-lord-a-theological-introduction-to-paul-and-his-letters-second-edition 

Thomas Gette - I' don't see the resource Deacon Don mentions as being tagged "Catholic."  Maybe it should be.  ??

The author isn't Catholic. He's Protestant.

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Don Awalt | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 24 2018 5:58 AM

SineNomine:
The author isn't Catholic. He's Protestant.

You're right he is Methodist, but the book is as Catholic as they come, one of the best books on Paul I have read. FYI, Dr. Gorman is the Raymond E. Brown Professor of Biblical Studies and Theology at St. Mary's Seminary and University, a decidedly Catholic institution and Seminary, and he is very well respected in Catholic theological circles. I assumed it should be tagged Catholic since the writing is Catholic, maybe that would offend some people.

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Don Awalt | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 24 2018 6:05 AM

And this addendum - the acknowledgment on the back cover was from Rev. Frank Matera, priest from the Archdiocese of Hartford, CT, and a distinguished Catholic theologian in his own right:

Frank J. Matera was for many years the Andrews-Kelly-Ryan Professor of Biblical Studies at the Catholic University of America. A former president of the Catholic Biblical Association of America, he is presently the pastor of St. Mary's Church in Simsbury, Connecticut. He has published commentaries on Romans, Second Corinthians, and Galatians and written books on New Testament theology, New Testament Christology, New Testament ethics, and Pauline theology. Matera's previous works published by Liturgical Press include Galatians in the Sacra Pagina series, Strategies for Preaching Paul, Preaching Romans: Proclaiming God's Saving Grace, and most recently The Sermon on the Mount: The Perfect Measure of the Christian Life.

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Deacon Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 24 2018 9:57 AM

I would add to Deacon Don's comments saying that Michael Gorman's work is very helpful.  I had a seminary professor who used his material in a course on St. Paul (in addition to many other sources).  I own and find very helpful three other resources in the Logos catalog from this author:

https://www.logos.com/product/54910/inhabiting-the-cruciform-god-kenosis-justification-and-theosis-in-pauls-narrative-soteriology

https://www.logos.com/product/50067/abortion-and-the-early-church-christian-jewish-and-pagan-attitudes-in-the-greco-roman-world

https://www.logos.com/product/49685/cruciformity-pauls-narrative-spirituality-of-the-cross

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Stephen Terlizzi | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 24 2018 2:18 PM

I agree. I referenced Michael Gorman’s work in my thesis on St. Paul. His writings are very Catholic. He is worth reading, particularly his work on theosis..

Agape,

Steve

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 24 2018 4:42 PM

I'm not writing anything against Dr. Gorman. I'm simply noting that he is not Catholic. As such, his book should not be tagged as Catholic.

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David Ames | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 25 2018 4:09 AM

SineNomine:
The author isn't Catholic. He's Protestant.


Don Awalt:

You're right he is Methodist, but the book is as Catholic as they come, one of the best books on Paul I have read. FYI, Dr. Gorman is the Raymond E. Brown Professor of Biblical Studies and Theology at St. Mary's Seminary and University, a decidedly Catholic institution and Seminary, and he is very well respected in Catholic theological circles. I assumed it should be tagged Catholic since the writing is Catholic, maybe that would offend some people.


Stephen Terlizzi:

I agree. I referenced Michael Gorman’s work in my thesis on St. Paul. His writings are very Catholic. He is worth reading, particularly his work on theosis..


SineNomine:

I'm not writing anything against Dr. Gorman. I'm simply noting that he is not Catholic. As such, his book should not be tagged as Catholic.


So how do we define a work as being “Catholic” if not from internal evidence?

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 25 2018 4:49 PM

David Ames:

So how do we define a work as being “Catholic” if not from internal evidence?

Is it

A) Written wholly or substantially by a Catholic (or more than one Catholic)?

B) Promulgated by an official organ of the Catholic Church?

C) Produced by a Catholic organization?

If not, then not. (What does internal evidence have to do with anything, unless it has to do with answering the above three questions?)

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Don Awalt | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 26 2018 4:51 AM

SineNomine:

A) Written wholly or substantially by a Catholic (or more than one Catholic)?

B) Promulgated by an official organ of the Catholic Church?

C) Produced by a Catholic organization?

If the official support of the Catholic Church is one of your criteria, I would say Dr. Gorman fits - he is a professor and the Raymond E. Brown Professor of Biblical Studies and Theology at St. Mary’s Seminary & University in Baltimore, a significant Catholic recognition. The Raymond E. Brown Chair was established by the United States Province of the Society of St. Sulpice in honor of one of the foremost American Catholic Scripture scholars of the 20th Century, alumnus of St. Mary’s Seminary (1953) and faculty member (1959-71). As you may know, the Sulpicians have the charism of formation and directly participate in the professorship at this seminary and others throughout the world. 

Let us not forget, this seminary, the assignments of its professors, and the priestly and diaconal curriculum falls under the direct leadership of the Archbishop of Baltimore. Dr. Gorman, his recognition as the Raymond E. Brown chair, and the support and use of his books in classwork/curriculum are directly approved by the Archbishop of Baltimore. There is no misunderstanding at seminaries who is in charge if you have been around them.

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 28 2018 5:12 PM

Don Awalt:
If the official support of the Catholic Church is one of your criteria,

It is not.

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Don Awalt | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 29 2018 6:07 AM

Another interesting book coming up on Prepub that Catholics among others may be interested in is EP Sanders' Paul and Palestinian Judaism. This is considered a seminal book on NT thinking about Paul, and while EP Sanders is not Catholic, his book is referenced and given due credit by several Catholic theologians in the Logos ecosphere (as well as many other reputable theologians and commentaries)

One example is Scott Hahn's reference of Sanders in Kinship by Covenant. This was Hahn's doctoral thesis, and if you have read any of his books on covenant theology, you know he is "all in" that the story of the Bible is God's covenant relationship with his people - "Testament" being the latin word for covenant.

For example, Hahn quotes Sanders: 

Sanders is almost solely responsible for a “paradigm shift” in Pauline scholarship, which for the past two centuries has largely held first-century Judaism to be a legalistic religion in which the covenant concept was of little or no consequence.

Hahn also references Sanders in Letter & Spirit, as well as the Catholic Commentary on Sacred Scripture book on Romans. Sanders book would be a nice addition to go "behind the scenes" and see more detail in how he influenced Catholic theologians like Hahn.

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David Ames | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 19 2018 5:32 AM

Steve:

Thought I would point out some resources in the Verbum catalog that are close to shipping.  You may want to take advantage of the lower pricing now.

https://www.logos.com/product/51914/filling-our-fathers-house-what-converts-can-teach-us-about-evangelization

It was $8.99 and is now $12.99.  Got it and read it cover to cover.  If you changed priest to pastor, Parish to Church, and a few doctrial items this book would work for any Christian.  Has very good chapters on working on your personal testimony and small groups.  Thanks for pointing it out.

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Deacon Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 19 2018 12:00 PM

Yes

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