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Jason Saling | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, May 18 2010 5:19 PM

I'm trying to adjust my layout, and it's not allowing me to.  I'm trying to adjust the portion where I have a yellow arrow shown, and trying to adjust it to the left around a third of the way over the bible text panel, but it doesn't budge at all.  I was wanting to open other panels next to the info box.  Is this possible?  Perhaps just not yet?  Is it able to be done in the Windows version currently?

 

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James Ng | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 18 2010 5:23 PM

Are you trying to make a "small" adjustment? ie, Just dragging it to the left or right light 1/4" or so? I have to drag it to the left or right by a large amount like an inch or more. I haven't been able to finely adjust the layout, it moves in large amounts for me.

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Jason Saling | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 18 2010 5:26 PM

I've tried little and large.  It won't move at all.  Between the passage guide and bible text does move, but not the side of bible text and information.

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David Mitchell | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 18 2010 5:34 PM

The panels on that side are in what's called the sidebar (it's not visually very distinct yet, but if you look closely, you'll see that there's a larger gap between those panels and the rest of the window).

Sidebar panels can be resized vertically but have a fixed width; in a later alpha, they'll also have a streamlined toolbar and tab bar. If you would prefer to have greater flexibility in how these panels are sized, you can drag them into the main area of the window. Once the sidebar is empty, it'll disappear.

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Scott Criswell | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 18 2010 5:35 PM

If you grab the tab and reset (drag and drop) it into another space (this can actually be the space it currently resides in) it will allow you to adjust its width. For some reason certain tools open by default in a certain region and at a fixed width while others do not. The "Information" tab is one example of this.

It's an odd workaround I know but dragging the panel until you see the blue drop zones and then placing it into one of those zones will remove the restrictions of the default position and width for that panel.

I hope that helps.

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Scott Criswell | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 18 2010 5:38 PM

David Mitchell:

The panels on that side are in what's called the sidebar (it's not visually very distinct yet, but if you look closely, you'll see that there's a larger gap between those panels and the rest of the window).

Sidebar panels can be resized vertically but have a fixed width; in a later alpha, they'll also have a streamlined toolbar and tab bar. If you would prefer to have greater flexibility in how these panels are sized, you can drag them into the main area of the window. Once the sidebar is empty, it'll disappear.

Looks like you beat me to the punch! Thanks for the update. It's good to know that visual cues like that are on the way, they should really help the overall user experience.

 

"Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable in your sight, O Lord, my rock and my redeemer."

- Psalm 19:14

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Jason Saling | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 18 2010 5:48 PM

Great!  I was able to move them to the main side and then adjust.  That brings up another question though, why even have a "fixed width" sidebar?  Is there an extra benefit to keeping it in the sidebar?

Another question, am I able to run the passage guide from the homepage, but it then open up my designed layout?  I just tried it, and it changed the layout.  How do I make my layout the default? or can I yet?

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David Mitchell | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 18 2010 5:49 PM

Scott Criswell:
For some reason certain tools open by default in a certain region and at a fixed width while others do not.

The tools that open in the sidebar are ones that have been designed to fit at a constrained width and are typically the sorts of things you may want to have open and easily accessed throughout your study.

A few examples (off the top of my head) are Information, Copy Bible Verses, Text Comparison, Explorer, Favorites, History and Pronunciation.

If you really don't like the sidebar and you never want certain tools to show up there, you can either create a layout with this configuration in place or type "Show X in Main Window" (where is the name of a tool that you want to open) in the command bar.

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David Mitchell | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 18 2010 5:53 PM

Jason Saling:
Another question, am I able to run the passage guide from the homepage, but it then open up my designed layout?

Entering a passage in the home page opens our default Bible study layout; if you'd like to use your own layout, I'd stay away from that field and navigate one of the panels in your layout instead—if that panel is linked with others, they'll navigate, too, so it's not much more effort than typing a reference in the home page.

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David Mitchell | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 18 2010 5:57 PM

Jason Saling:
That brings up another question though, why even have a "fixed width" sidebar?  Is there an extra benefit to keeping it in the sidebar?

As I mentioned before I saw this post, the sidebar panels are designed to fit a constrained width—by limiting their size in the window, it leaves more room for interesting content like books and guides.

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Jason Saling | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 18 2010 6:00 PM

David Mitchell:
Entering a passage in the home page opens our default Bible study layout; if you'd like to use your own layout, I'd stay away from that field and navigate one of the panels in your layout instead

Is this always going to be the case?  Or in future Alphas, Betas, or final product, will I be able to set my designed layout as the Default?

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Jason Saling | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 18 2010 6:03 PM

In Explorer will we be able to rearrange the order of sections? Such as put Commentaries on top, instead of People, Places, & Things?

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David Mitchell | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 18 2010 6:30 PM

Jason Saling:

David Mitchell:
Entering a passage in the home page opens our default Bible study layout; if you'd like to use your own layout, I'd stay away from that field and navigate one of the panels in your layout instead

Is this always going to be the case?  Or in future Alphas, Betas, or final product, will I be able to set my designed layout as the Default?

What shows up after you type a reference on the home page is more than simply loading a layout, so it's not likely to be customizable any time in the near future (it's not customizable on Windows, either).

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David Mitchell | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 18 2010 6:32 PM

Jason Saling:

In Explorer will we be able to rearrange the order of sections? Such as put Commentaries on top, instead of People, Places, & Things?

Unless I'm misremembering it, this is not a feature on the Windows product, nor is it planned for Mac (although if it is available on Windows, we'll be doing it, too…).

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Jason Saling | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 18 2010 6:43 PM

David Mitchell:
What shows up after you type a reference on the home page is more than simply loading a layout, so it's not likely to be customizable any time in the near future (it's not customizable on Windows, either).

With that being the case, I would suggest also having the ability to drag a Layout to the Shortcut Bar.

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David Kim | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 2 2010 2:07 PM

I understand that there is a fixed width for some sidebars. After I move the sidebar to a different location. I can't move the other window or the window does not expand over to the empty space. For example ... 

 

Any suggestions how I can move that over?

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Thomas Ball | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 2 2010 2:13 PM

David Kim:

I reported this this morning.

 

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David Kim | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 2 2010 2:22 PM

I just read your other post ... so are you saying that this is a bug and that it will be fixed some time in the future? Thanks Tommy.

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Thomas Ball | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 2 2010 3:21 PM

Yes it it is a bug. And yes it should be fixed. Not by me though. I'm merely the messenger.

 

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Gregorio Billikopf | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 12 2012 3:00 PM

I am having similar problems resizing boxes.

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