AYBC Matthew not included in bundle or current sale

James McAdams
James McAdams Member Posts: 763 ✭✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

https://www.logos.com/product/162594/matthew-introduction-translation-and-notes

I was just wondering why this volume isn’t included in the commentary bundle or the current sale? It looks like it came out in 2008.

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  • HJ. van der Wal
    HJ. van der Wal Member Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭

    I believe the first edition was published in 1971. After Logos published the AYBC this volume had to be pulled due to copyright reasons. I have no idea when this volume made its return to the Logos store. It seems you can still vote on uservoice to make it avaible again in Logos?!

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,610 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thank you, James!

    I didn't realize it was back. I wanted for the history; no offense to Albright, but I guess, maybe turning of an era.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • mab
    mab Member Posts: 3,076 ✭✭✭

    It should be on the sale. Strange that it would not make that.

    The mind of man is the mill of God, not to grind chaff, but wheat. Thomas Manton | Study hard, for the well is deep, and our brains are shallow. Richard Baxter

  • Paul
    Paul Member Posts: 500 ✭✭

    I very much agree - the volume on Matthew should be part of the sale.

    FAITHLIFE - would you consider including this one! [8-|]  Keep well  Paul 

  • Mike Tourangeau
    Mike Tourangeau Member Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭

    I have this volume (1971) and to be honest I find it very, very light. The whole volume is 363 pages. I am in Matt 11 this week and was shocked that the whole chapt was covered in 13 pages!

    I don't think it is worth the sale price.....

  • Clifford B. Kvidahl
    Clifford B. Kvidahl Member Posts: 243 ✭✭

    Don't waste your money on this volume. It is utterly useless and not even worthy to be a Free Book of the Month.

    Cliff

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,610 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Don't waste your money on this volume. It is utterly useless and not even worthy to be a Free Book of the Month.

    Cliff

    Guys ... it's been well known for what, decades? Wright wasn't anyones pick for sermon making and Matthew. And his selection by the editor (as with many of the AYB volumes) isn't for the usual, but rather for the unusual. Even in the OT, Wright is passed by, but merits reading for himself. But no, not for sermons.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • Paul
    Paul Member Posts: 500 ✭✭

    I admit I’m confused.  The thread may have become diverted for some reason to a different book and the comments followed suit.  Just to be sure, the OP began with Matthew: Introduction, Translation, and Notes by William Foxwell Albright and C. S. Mann, Anchor Yale Bible (AYB) (Yale University Press, 1995) which is reported as having 576 pages not 363 pages.

    (See https://www.logos.com/product/162594/matthew-introduction-translation-and-notes )

    It’s listed in the Faithlife page as published in 1995 and also 2008 so I’m assuming that this is a second edition or update of that earlier work.

    Mike - Your publication date (1971) and page length (363 pages) doesn’t match the description given by Faithlife – so are you perhaps referring to an earlier version of the book or a different book?

    Clifford – Are you referring to Albright’s book and if so, could you share some reasons for thinking the book is useless?

     Denise – Not sure where Wright comes into this?

    It’s possible there’s a missing message in the thread, but at the moment I’m confused.

    I’d still like to see this work in the current sale of AYBC.  Keep well  Paul.   

  • HJ. van der Wal
    HJ. van der Wal Member Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭

    Carson writes: "Albright and Mann on Matthew have produced a volume with a lengthy introduction and almost no exegesis." (D. A. Carson, New Testament Commentary Survey, 6th ed. (Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Academic, 2007), page 21).

    Paul said:

    Denise – Not sure where Wright comes into this?

    I enjoy reading Denise's posts but it can be quite a challenge to understand what she is saying, especially if English is not your native language. Could this be an example of "rhyming slang", a feature of some English dialects to confuse outsiders?! 

  • Paul
    Paul Member Posts: 500 ✭✭

    Carson writes: "Albright and Mann on Matthew have produced a volume with a lengthy introduction and almost no exegesis." (D. A. Carson, New Testament Commentary Survey, 6th ed. (Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Academic, 2007), page 21).

    Paul said:

    Denise – Not sure where Wright comes into this?

    I enjoy reading Denise's posts but it can be quite a challenge to understand what she is saying, especially if English is not your native language. Could this be an example of "rhyming slang", a feature of some English dialects to confuse outsiders?! 

    Thanks for the insight and quote from Carson - now that is very interesting!  On Denise's posts - you may indeed be right. I love reading what Denise has to say on the various threads and often learn something too. But its likely true that from an Australian perspective living at the 'end of the world' and speaking our own language (called "Strine") I will have to confess to occasional confusion over the dialect, strange references and slang emanating from the US colonies.  Keep well Paul    

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,610 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Denise said:

    Don't waste your money on this volume. It is utterly useless and not even worthy to be a Free Book of the Month.

    Cliff

    Guys ... it's been well known for what, decades? Wright wasn't anyones pick for sermon making and Matthew. And his selection by the editor (as with many of the AYB volumes) isn't for the usual, but rather for the unusual. Even in the OT, Wright is passed by, but merits reading for himself. But no, not for sermons.

    Major apologies. I was thinking Albright but writing Wright. After a coming across Texas and Oklahoma. That's an excuse.

    But my point remains the same. I doubt Friedman (hope I got that right) was looking for deep exegesis, when he asked Albright. I certainly wouldn't.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • Mike Tourangeau
    Mike Tourangeau Member Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭

    Paul said:

    Mike - Your publication date (1971) and page length (363 pages) doesn’t match the description given by Faithlife – so are you perhaps referring to an earlier version of the book or a different book?

    I didn't take time to check this and should have. My apologies. My copy is a dead tree version also...... 

  • Paul
    Paul Member Posts: 500 ✭✭

    Paul said:

    Mike - Your publication date (1971) and page length (363 pages) doesn’t match the description given by Faithlife – so are you perhaps referring to an earlier version of the book or a different book?

    I didn't take time to check this and should have. My apologies. My copy is a dead tree version also...... 

    No worries Mike. Have a good day! Keep well  Paul 

  • John Kight
    John Kight Member Posts: 1,619 ✭✭✭

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  • Paul
    Paul Member Posts: 500 ✭✭

    FYI -  This volume is now $19.99!

    Thanks for letting us know and my thanks also to Faithlife. Keep well Paul 

  • James McAdams
    James McAdams Member Posts: 763 ✭✭✭

    Paul said:

    FYI -  This volume is now $19.99!

    Thanks for letting us know and my thanks also to Faithlife. Keep well Paul 

    Agreed on both parts - thanks!