Logos 7 versus Logos 8

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Angelia Ulrich | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Feb 16 2019 6:46 AM

I have just "upgraded" to the free basic L8. I do not care for it for 3 reasons:

1. My Notes which I frequently use & depend upon are no longer listed by verse but by the beginning of the sentence of each note. This is not useful to me & takes up too much real estate.

2. My font default settings no longer work.

3. The logistics of the program at the top take up too much real estate.

Tho I know I may lose some functionality of the new upgrade, I would like to return to Logos 7. Can anyone help me, please? Thank you.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 16 2019 7:02 AM

Hi Angela

Angelia Ulrich:
I would like to return to Logos 7. Can anyone help me, please?

To return to Logos 7 you would need to:

  1. Completely remove Logos from your system
  2. Download a V7 version 

However I'm aware I don't know how I would do the second. With the availability of Logos 8 Basic I don't know how to get hold of a Logos 7 download anymore. It may be possible but I don't know where it is. Someone may have a link

To comment briefly on the points you made:

Angelia Ulrich:
1. My Notes which I frequently use & depend upon are no longer listed by verse but by the beginning of the sentence of each note. This is not useful to me & takes up too much real estate.

The current beta version of Logos 8 supports sorting notes by reference as per the screenshot below

This is expected to ship to the stable channel on the 4th March. If this restores what you are looking for, are you able to wait till then?

Angelia Ulrich:
2. My font default settings no longer work.

There have been various discussions over font issues but I haven't really followed them. What specific issues are you having?

Angelia Ulrich:
3. The logistics of the program at the top take up too much real estate.

Please expand on what you mean by this

Graham

 

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Angelia Ulrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 16 2019 7:32 AM

GM & thanks, Graham. I don't know how to obtain your screenshot on my machine. In fact, somehow my listing of notes according to Notebook is now grayed out & I can't get back to it.

Regarding the real estate issue

Just the "blocks" alone which list the resources is much too large. The "Search" is always up & thus takes up valuable space.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 16 2019 7:43 AM

I think I understand what you mean by the blocks that list resources. Are these the tabs at the top of each pane? If so, a lot of people have mentioned that and hopefully it will change.

To post a screenshot you can use the paperclip icon in the forum editor. It would be helpful to see what you are describing

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 16 2019 7:54 AM

Angelia Ulrich:
My Notes which I frequently use & depend upon are no longer listed by verse but by the beginning of the sentence of each note

Angelina, Graham will give you good help so I don't need to add to that. It is possible to use the old notes system in Logos 8. You can find out more on this page. I am not sure that is what I'd do if I were you since L7 will eventually no longer be supported, even if you can find a way to reinstall it. I'm trying to get adjusted to the new notes system and am glad that it is constantly being improved on. However, this is one feature of Logos 7 you can retain if you want.

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Angelia Ulrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 16 2019 8:08 AM

Thank you. I'm going to look at Mark's page about getting the notes back the way I like them. Have a blessed day.

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Angelia Ulrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 16 2019 8:09 AM

Thank you, Mark. I'll have a look at that page. I understand your comment about no support for L7 in the future. Always something new :) Have a blessed day & coming Sunday.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 16 2019 9:46 AM

Angelia Ulrich:

Thank you. I'm going to look at Mark's page about getting the notes back the way I like them. Have a blessed day.

Please be aware that any notes you have created using the new Notes Tool in Logos 8 won't be visible in the Logos 7 notes environment if you do switch back to it.

Any notes you create in the Logos 7 environment should be available in the Logos 8 Note Tool when / if you switch back to it.

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Angelia Ulrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 16 2019 9:59 AM

Thanks again. Support just wrote me that my L7 notes are gone forever bc they've been converted to L8. I'm greatly disappointed! I'm glad I did not pay for this "downgrade." I'm going to try to use a L7 on an older laptop to get around this. This should NOT happen.

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 16 2019 10:40 AM

Angelia Ulrich:

Thanks again. Support just wrote me that my L7 notes are gone forever bc they've been converted to L8. I'm greatly disappointed! I'm glad I did not pay for this "downgrade." I'm going to try to use a L7 on an older laptop to get around this. This should NOT happen.

Angelina, I believe you received the wrong information from the support people. No conversion has occurred to your L7 notes. (EDIT: by that I mean you have not lost your L7 notes. Conversion occurs to use them in L8, but it is not a destructive conversion. They still exist in L7 format.) If you try the command Set Prefer Notes Tool to No you will find (after restarting Logos) that your L7 notes appear under the Documents drop-down. To go back to L8 notes, type Set Prefer Notes Tool to Yes in the Command bar and restart Logos.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 16 2019 2:24 PM

Angelia - apologies for misspelling your name earlier.

Graham

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 16 2019 2:33 PM

Graham Criddle:
Angelia - apologies for misspelling your name earlier.

OOPS. Me, too.

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Angelia Ulrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 17 2019 5:41 AM

Not a prob w my name! Thanks

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Angelia Ulrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 17 2019 6:01 AM

GM. A blessed Sunday to you preaching today. When you get a minute, I can find no "Set Prefer Notes Tool" in my program. Please advise where it is. Thank you.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 17 2019 7:06 AM

Angelia Ulrich:
GM. A blessed Sunday to you preaching today.

Thanks Angelia - appreciated

Angelia Ulrich:
When you get a minute, I can find no "Set Prefer Notes Tool" in my program. Please advise where it is.

It's a command box option

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Angelia Ulrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 17 2019 12:03 PM

Amazing!! How grateful I am to you for your help! Thank you, thank you! Now that this is in the Forums maybe it will help others too.

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Angelia Ulrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 20 2019 7:59 AM

Just an update. I'm endeavoring to learn the new notes system for L8. We have no alternative. Now I just need to be sure the notes from L7 actually got into L8. Thanks for everyone's help.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 20 2019 8:11 AM

Angelia Ulrich:
Now I just need to be sure the notes from L7 actually got into L8

I don't remember seeing any reports of them not coming across so hopefully you will find everything as you expect!

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Angelia Ulrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 20 2019 10:45 AM

Thanks, Graham. I wasn't clear. I have to be sure the notes I put in the last 2 days in the old notes get written in the new ones bc they do not transfer. That's the reason for having to go into the new ones. It is a learning curve, but I will do it. Have a blessed day.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 20 2019 1:58 PM

Hi Angelia

Angelia Ulrich:
I have to be sure the notes I put in the last 2 days in the old notes get written in the new ones bc they do not transfer.

Are you saying that notes you created in the old notes system in the last two days aren't transferring to the new one? If so that's a problem as they should be!

If that's the case, please provide some more details ideally with some screenshots showing what isn't coming across

Graham

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