Logos 9 Wishlist

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 11 2020 1:26 PM

DAL:

Phil:

New windows for reading content always seem to open on the right... Add an option to toggle this between right and left, as I always have to manually move the content from the right half of the screen to the left half of the screen, which seems like a waste of time if I am doing that every time I open a resource...

If you click on the window that is opened before opening another resource, it will open the other resource to the opposite side.  Example: My preferred Bible or any book will initially open to the right, the next one will open to the left.  If I want another resource to open to the left instead of to the right, I just click anywhere on the resource to the right so when I open another resource it will open to the left.  Same if I want a resource to open to the right — click on the resource to the left before opening another book and it will open it to the right.  Does that make sense? It works for me.

I think Phil is referring to opening a resource from a blank layout, in which case the resource always opens on the right side.

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Ethan K | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 11 2020 2:19 PM
I have been around since Logos 3 and although I am running the Logos 8 client, I decided not to pay for an upgrade or cross grade this time because I didn’t find any of the new features particularly necessary for my own use (mainly academic). These are some changes that would actually convince me to pay for a Logos 9 upgrade or cross-grade: 
  1. Direct export from Logos word list to Logos visual filter — It is so helpful to make a visual filter from a word list in Logos. Currently though, if I want to do this I have to export the word list to Excel, copy that into Word, reformat using find and replace, copy the reformatted list, and paste into the visual filter. It would be amazing to streamline this process, especially given the potential overlap between these document types. 
  2. Better copy/paste for Hebrew text — The text converter tool is fantastic, but I would love it if there was a way to customize the default copy/paste settings for Hebrew text especially (e.g. copy with vowels but not cantillation marks or copy consonants only).
  3. Displaying translation and original language text when hovering over Bible references — I know that you can prioritize resources and thus choose which translation or original language text pops up when you hover over a reference, but I would love to be able to see both. If I’m remembering correctly, Bibleworks had this feature... 
  4. Expanded morph search boundaries beyond a single verse — As it stands the WITHIN X WORDS or even AND search features are severely limited in morph search because the parameters are limited to a single verse. I wrote a previous post about this and learned that switching to a basic search is a sort of workaround, but then you lose functionality that is only available through the morph search. 
  5. Dark mode on desktop app — I find reading in dark mode much easier on the eyes and would love to see this in Logos. It’s on the mobile app, please bring it to desktop. 
  6. Better library organization — Maybe not everyone feels this way, but in my opinion all of the base packages are bloated with tons of resources that I never have and never will use. On top of this, the filter on the library pane is also bloated, making it rather tedious to explore the resources in my library. If I filter by type, 37 categories come up (and I'm sure that number is MUCH higher for the people with Platinum libraries). There has to be a more streamlined way to categorize and organize resources on the library pane. 
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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 11 2020 2:30 PM

Ethan - thank you for posting. We need more people who have a specific need (academic) and can express the "small things" that keep Logos from being as useful as it could be.

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Andrew Biddinger | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 11 2020 4:18 PM

Automate my life with Logos' Google Assistant commands even better than YouVersion's: https://assistant.google.com/services/a/uid/0000002f01ed2122?hl=en-US Smile

* Listen to Today's Reading Plan

* Lookup/Search commands

* Read Today's Prayer Requests

* Open Reference Scanner

* Open Book

* ...etc.

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Nathan Parker | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 11 2020 7:06 PM

Continuing to build upon Theology Guide would be great. Notes may be ironed out enough, but if there are any rough edges there, that'd be good to continue to iron out.

Being able to have more consistent features across desktop, mobile, web would be great. I like how as you've re-architected certain features it brought them across all platforms.

If the upgrade experience continues to go as well as it did for L8, then I'd be happy. With FL Connect, I was able to receive my L8 upgrade without issues, and my L8 library upgrade was so cost-effective I went back and bought a few additional libraries.

Duplicate what you did for L8 for L9 (just with other features/enhancements) and you'll have a winner.

Nathan Parker

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JesusisKing | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 13 2020 6:34 PM

I would like to see, a specific workflow in the form of a Bible book survey. Perhaps charts for each one. Also, the workflow would break the book into segment divisions. Unless this can be done by way of other features that I am not aware of, as I am still getting to know all the different features for Logos 8. 

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 15 2020 1:34 AM

Please put some serious work into adding functions to Faithlife Assistant so that it is the value resource it has the potential to be.

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Kevin Olson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 15 2020 4:41 AM

Here are some of my wishes for Logos 9:

Please make it so that Logos 9 will help us to study and read the Bible, and the other books in our libraries.  

* Bookmarks:   Easy, intuitive bookmarks, across all platforms.

* Reading Plans:  I would love it if our Bible reading plans would format the text like the old 1 Year Bibles.  When you go into a day's reading, import the text into "the daily reading" format stream.  When you get to the end of the day's reading, have the text stop.  If your Bible reading plan is reading from 4 different parts of the Bible, import the passages from all four into the format stream.  Do the same for the other books we are reading.  Have that on the desktop and the mobile app.

* Search: Create a search capability like Google or Bing.  Often times, I leave Logos and use Google to do searches for quotes and content.  That makes me wonder why I have invested so much in Logos, when I need to actually use another tool to get the information that I am looking for.  I wish I could search my library for content much easier, and have it formatted like a decent web browser.  And have it prioritize according to the prioritization set.   

* Opening Bibles:  I wish there was an option to open a Bible at the same place that you are reading in another Bible.  It used to be that if I was reading in the NASB, and I opened the NJB, it would open to the same passage that I was reading in the NASB.  That way, I would see the reading in another translation to compare.  Now it opens to the last place I was reading in the NJB.  Give us an option for the default opening positions on resources.  Make it global and local. 

* Homepage:  Please go back to the Logos 7 Homepage style.  I used to love going there.  There were better offerings there.  In Logos 8, it is clunky and less aesthetically appealing.  The only time I use the Logos 8 Homepage now is to look at the what the Lectionary Readings are. It is sad that it was so downgraded. 

* Lectionary:   Have a lectionary tool.  When you open it, it will provide a simple list of the days readings and feast/focus days from each of the lectionaries in your library with a link to open those readings.  Have this tool easily search by days, so that you can look forward to what is coming, and look at what was in the past.    

Thanks!

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David Ahlgren | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 18 2020 1:29 PM

Add the capability to share user created PBBs with others (by name) to avoid having to share DOCX files and recompile every time.  Individuals can create PBBs currently and Upload them so other instances with the same account/logon can sync/download them.  Make this shareable similar to lending books in Kindle with others.  Targeted lending/sharing would not become a potential copyright issue by not making PBBs syncable with just anyone - an example is my ongoing OT Commentary (finished the NT one last year), another example is my pastor's Commentary PBB.  

Enable PBBs in the Mobile App as well. 

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David Ahlgren | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 18 2020 1:40 PM

If possible, work with the publisher of the NKJV to update to match the Byzantine/Majority text base we now have; the old KJV (TR) was only based on a handful of MSS, but there are more Byzantine MSS sources now to update the NKJV in similar fashion to the other major MSS (Critical) family.  I had suggested this over the past 2 years to Nelson who was the owner then, but no response.  I've had to add the Byz textual variants myself and create a PBB Bible version, but would love to have the full Logos version of it!  

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David Ahlgren | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 18 2020 1:47 PM

Agree.  I use OliveTree's Bible App on the iPad/iPhone due to the usability and functionality afforded the mobile platform for most Bible study prep work.  I can access resources by verse or word and switch translations with the same markup, or sync two versions side-by-side and still do the lookups.  That is the Mobile Logos functionality I'd love to see! 

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Myke Harbuck | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 19 2020 7:31 AM

My Wish List 2.0:

FOLDERS in the SHORTCUT BAR, much like browsers permit folders in it's shortcut or bookmark bar.

USER TAGGING OF IMAGES. While Logos is far superior to other products when come to tagging images, there is still a TON of room for improvement. It would be wonderful if users could add personal or even community tags to images to improve search capabilities. I rely on Logos images every week for my Proclaim teaching presentations, and it would be very convenient if I could tag images in the same manner one can in Proclaim.

USER TAGGING OF VERSES OR PERICOPES.I realize we can add a note that has tags, but it would be a lot more convenient if we could add our own user tags to verses or passages. This, also, would improve search capabilities.

PARALLEL PERICOPE SEARCH MATCHING. There is probably a better name for this, but here's my vision: I am doing an image search for Peter’s profession of faith in Matthew 16:13-19. That brings up a few good images I can use for teaching. But, what about the parallel pericopes in Mark 8, Luke 9, John 6? Right now I have to re-execute the search for each of the related pericopes (unless I know each parallel passage ahead of time, and leverage the AND operator with all 4 verses individually listed).

I would be super dupity (spelling) nice if I could check a box next to the search parameter sections that would say "search the parallel pericopes" for my search passage. I realize there are some challenges to this option (IE it would be very difficult to match at the verse level), but there would be great value in providing this search option. The parallel passages data is already available in the harmonies, so it would just be a matter of tapping into that data and permitting access in the search set up.

PARALLEL THEME / TOPIC SEARCH MATCHING. Same concept as above. As I search for a term, perhaps I can choose from a list of similar concepts / themes in a drop down as I am setting up my search. Perhaps I am searching for preaching illustrations on "salvation." Maybe Logos could let me chose to also search for soteriology, justification, etc. I realize this would be a much more difficult undertaking, especially since the relationship between concepts is often subjective. But the functionality could be helpful.

MOBILE LAYOUTS ACCESS IMPROVEMENTS. I don't have the answer for this, but there HAS to be a better way to select a new layout on mobile. I love the concept and have just started to use and appreciate this feature. Yet there are tooooooooo many clicks necessary to select a layout or to update a layout.

Perhaps a drop down in the title bar, so we could have 1 click or 2 click access to a particular layout. Perhaps a layouts list under the favorites list? IDK. To me, it's rather counterproductive in its current access steps. I think many more would use and appreciate layouts if it were easier to access and switch between layouts, like they are on desktop (1 click access if on the shortcut bar; 2 click access from the layout menu). We should also be able to create and update a layout in the same manner - 1 or 2 clicks from the title bar or kabob menu.

FILTERING/SORTING OF SEARCH RESULTS. Often I shudder at the idea of having to use WordSearch. It's sooooo 20th century (early 20th century, LOL) in features, GUI, tagging, searching, etc. But it does have a few strengths other than it's wide variety of and early access to product offerings. One is the ability drill down on search results. Let's say you have searched all resources for <John 3:16>. For those results, you can click on particular collections, resource types, etc, to drill down and see results for that particular criteria. With Logos, this has to be done in the search, and the search has to be re-executed for each resource type / collection / etc. Not so with WS. Really neat feature.

CARTA. Oh, and my dream list would include CARTA. Yes, I know this is a product offering, not a feature. But I'll take any opportunity I can to ask for CARTA. Big Smile

That....is...all....

Myke Harbuck
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Adjunct Professor, Georgia Military College

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 19 2020 8:27 AM

Myke Harbuck,

WORDsearch is having another sale on the 22 volumes understanding __________ series from CARTA.  It released recently, so it kind of made me wonder that whatever  reason they give to not publish with Logos is just a lame excuse.  Gotta give it to WORDsearch on this one, the graphics look great!

DAL

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 19 2020 8:38 AM

DAL:
Gotta give it to WORDsearch on this one, the graphics look great!

You're not making my day better. Especially, with the Palestine topos resource now in development.

"I didn't know God made honky tonk angels."

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 19 2020 8:44 AM

Myke Harbuck:
Often I shudder at the idea of having to use WordSearch. It's sooooo 20th century (early 20th century, LOL) in features, GUI, tagging, searching, etc. But it does have a few strengths other than it's wide variety of and early access to product offerings. One is the ability drill down on search results. Let's say you have searched all resources for <John 3:16>. For those results, you can click on particular collections, resource types, etc, to drill down and see results for that particular criteria.

I hate to admit my Bible software UI is early 20th century too. But oh so convenient. It can turn on a dime. Logos search needs a major over-haul. Can't group by collections/tags (duh), doesn't allow quick sub-searches, custom selection, etc. And truly believes customers are going to memorize the non-standard search coding.

"I didn't know God made honky tonk angels."

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Myke Harbuck | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 19 2020 11:08 AM

DAL:

Myke Harbuck,

WORDsearch is having another sale on the 22 volumes understanding __________ series from CARTA.  It released recently, so it kind of made me wonder that whatever  reason they give to not publish with Logos is just a lame excuse.  Gotta give it to WORDsearch on this one, the graphics look great!

DAL

Just makes no sense why Logos can't have Carta. UGH.

Dal, are the Carta graphics better in WS than Accordance? I was thinking you had Carta in Accordance.....

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Adjunct Professor, Georgia Military College

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Myke Harbuck | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 19 2020 11:22 AM

Denise:

Logos search needs a major over-haul..

That'll preach right there, sister!

Denise:

Can't group by collections/tags (duh), doesn't allow quick sub-searches, custom selection, etc.

I meant to include sub-searches in my post, but it slipped my mind. This is important and should have been a capability of Logos long ago.

Denise:

And truly believes customers are going to memorize the non-standard search coding.

Again, preach it! If the masses are ever going to realize and enjoy the power of Logos search, it will be through a true search builder wizard - a dialogue box that gives the user options on the type of search functionality / criteria available (not the search templates - those are to specific / hard coded and have no flexibility).

Perhaps the ability to drag and drop various labels, tags, data, criteria, desired results into a box and then decide what the user wants to do with it. Let's say I needed results for where Jesus intersects with John 3. But since I have no idea what "intersects" mean, perhaps the wizard can find out what I want to see and use the operators / functions behind the scenes.

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PetahChristian | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 19 2020 11:30 AM

DAL:
it kind of made me wonder that whatever  reason they give to not publish with Logos is just a lame excuse

I seriously doubt that Carta Jerusalem has to make lame excuses.

Perhaps licensing agreements would be based on the size of a business and the amount of sales they'd bring in? Maybe Carta Jerusalem might want something different from an agreement with FL, than one with other companies? I don't know.

Either way, we should probably be considerate and respect Carta Jerusalem's reasons. (Still hoping, though, for Carta in Logos!)

My top three Logos 9 Wishlist items: Carta, Dark mode, and Hebrew audio bible, please.

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 19 2020 3:52 PM

Myke Harbuck:

DAL:

Myke Harbuck,

WORDsearch is having another sale on the 22 volumes understanding __________ series from CARTA.  It released recently, so it kind of made me wonder that whatever  reason they give to not publish with Logos is just a lame excuse.  Gotta give it to WORDsearch on this one, the graphics look great!

DAL

Just makes no sense why Logos can't have Carta. UGH.

Dal, are the Carta graphics better in WS than Accordance? I was thinking you had Carta in Accordance.....

I have the major works in Accordance, but the Understanding the Bible series in WORDsearch.  The graphics are better in Accordance but WORDsearch is not that far behind.  I’d say better than anything Logos could ever offer right now.

DAL

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Nathan Parker | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 19 2020 6:14 PM

I have some of Carta's content in Accordance when I upgraded to Graphics Master. I am enjoying them. Logos users would enjoy them if it ever happens. My copies I'd just run in Accordance, but they are nice.

Nathan Parker

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