Search Problems

I have the following resource:

Barclay, W. (Ed.). (1975). The Gospel of John (Vol. 1). Philadelphia, PA: The Westminster John Knox Press.

This resource contains the following sentence:

"The strict Rabbis forbade a Rabbi to greet a woman in public"

However, when I highlight this sentence in the resource and search for it, no results are found. Am I doing here something wrong?

Here is a screenshot with the resource and the search:

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Fred Chapman

I do not have that resource to test, however I suspect it may be an indexing issue.

I would suggest running a rebuild index command, but I think there is a way to rebuild the index for a single resource. Let me try to find the correct syntax for rebuilding a single resource index before you go to the trouble of rebuilding the entire library index.

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1086365#Comment_1086365

I also don't have that particular resource. Is it an older edition of the (New) Daily Study Bible?

For me, that exact string is found in The Gospel of John, Volume 1 | NDSB Jn1

LLS:NDSB64JNV01
2011-07-13T21:55:53Z
NDSB64JNV01.logos4

Fred Chapman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1086365#Comment_1086365

Let me try to find the correct syntax for rebuilding a single resource index before you go to the trouble of rebuilding the entire library index.

Try this command

Reindex {Abbreviated Title | Resource Id} - re-indexes a single resource e.g. reindex ESV; reindex LLS:1.0.710

You can find the required resource information in the Info pane

Armin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1086374#Comment_1086374

Many thanks for all your recommendations. I tried reindexing just the resource but it did not help. Then I rebuilt the entire index and still, I don't get any search results. Both of the following resources contain this sentence:

LLS:NDSB64JNV01
2011-07-13T21:55:53Z
NDSB64JNV01.logos4

LLS:29.48.7
2006-03-23T20:58:49Z
bcomjhn1.lbxlls

Philana R. Crouch

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1086399#Comment_1086399

Many thanks for all your recommendations. I tried reindexing just the resource but it did not help. Then I rebuilt the entire index and still, I don't get any search results. Both of the following resources contain this sentence:

LLS:NDSB64JNV01
2011-07-13T21:55:53Z
NDSB64JNV01.logos4

LLS:29.48.7
2006-03-23T20:58:49Z
bcomjhn1.lbxlls

Armin,

I cannot reproduce this, can you post your logs?

Armin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1086405#Comment_1086405

Hi Philana,

Many thanks for checking it out. Here is my sample and log:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/p4yptfi8spn8ibb/logoslogs.eberlein.20200201-065259.zip?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/s2qnre713bcu1w9/logoslogs.eberlein.20200201-065206.zip?dl=0

Armin

Myke Harbuck

I can reproduce. Same results as OP. I tried every way possible to search the term, including shortening the phrase, inline search, NEAR, etc. No hits.

I have same resource versions as OP.

LLS:NDSB64JNV01
2011-07-13T21:55:53Z
NDSB64JNV01.logos4

LLS:29.48.7
2006-03-23T20:58:49Z
bcomjhn1.lbxlls

I am on Mac 8.11.0.0013, although I think this is a resource issue, not an issue with Logos.

Philana, just a hunch. Do you have BOTH DSBS and NDSB? I ask because for the resources where I own BOTH the original DSBS and the corresponding NDSB, I only get hits for any search in the NDSB. However, for the resources where I ONLY have the original DSBS (which is the OT volumes), I get hits as expected (tested 5 or 6 searches in multiple resources).

So, having BOTH the new version and the old version in my library seems to cause Logos to only return results for the new resource.

Armin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1086473#Comment_1086473

Hi Myke,

Many thanks for checking. I am glad that I am not the only one who has this issue.

Armin

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

This reminds me of this bug (which was fixed in 8.8): https://community.logos.com/forums/t/184655.aspx

For people who can reproduce the problem, does shortening the phrase to "The strict Rabbis forbade a" return results, but extending it to include the second "Rabbi" fail?

Armin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1086643#Comment_1086643

Hi Bradley,

Thanks for looking into this. Shortening the phrase did not help in my case. Even searching for "The strict Rabbis" does not lead to hits in these two resources.

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1086644#Comment_1086644

Hmm, that's strange. If you have the resources open so that quote is visible, and start a new Basic Search in Open Resources for

The OR strict OR Rabbis OR forbade OR a OR to OR greet OR woman OR in OR public

are any of the words in that phrase in the open resource highlighted (as search results)?

Myke Harbuck

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1086689#Comment_1086689

This reminds me of this bug (which was fixed in 8.8): https://community.logos.com/forums/t/184655.aspx

For people who can reproduce the problem, does shortening the phrase to "The strict Rabbis forbade a" return results, but extending it to include the second "Rabbi" fail?

Shortening the phrase does not help. No search parameters of any kind work.

Hmm, that's strange. If you have the resources open so that quote is visible, and start a new Basic Search in Open Resources for

The OR strict OR Rabbis OR forbade OR a OR to OR greet OR woman OR in OR public

are any of the words in that phrase in the open resource highlighted (as search results)?

Active search highlighting does not work either. Again, this appears to be tied to a conflict between the updated resource and the original resource. For any resource where one has both the old and new resource downloaded, the old resource will not return results for searches of any kind.

For resources where I own only the old resource (IE OT volumes) searches perform as expected.

Armin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1086689#Comment_1086689

If you have the resources open so that quote is visible, and start a new Basic Search in Open Resources for

The OR strict OR Rabbis OR forbade OR a OR to OR greet OR woman OR in OR public

are any of the words in that phrase in the open resource highlighted (as search results)?

I just tried this search. No, none of the two resources has any of the search terms highlighted.

Armin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1086865#Comment_1086865

For any resource where one has both the old and new resource downloaded, the old resource will not return results for searches of any kind.

Does this imply that you get the search results in the new resource? I have both resources and neither resource shows the search results.

Myke Harbuck

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087072#Comment_1087072

For any resource where one has both the old and new resource downloaded, the old resource will not return results for searches of any kind.

Does this imply that you get the search results in the new resource? I have both resources and neither resource shows the search results.

Correct. I consistently get results for the newer resource.

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1086399#Comment_1086399

Then I rebuilt the entire index and still, I don't get any search results.

Did you use the "rebuild index" command to do this?

If you have the time, there's a more extreme approach we could take to ensure that absolutely all index files are cleared out. Delete the following two folders and restart Logos (it should start indexing again, which may take a few hours):

/Users/eberlein/Library/Application Support/Logos4/Data/d5641vkc.6jn/BibleIndex
/Users/eberlein/Library/Application Support/Logos4/Data/d5641vkc.6jn/LibraryIndex

Armin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087094#Comment_1087094

Did you use the "rebuild index" command to do this?

Yes, I used this command.

If you have the time, there's a more extreme approach we could take to ensure that absolutely all index files are cleared out. Delete the following two folders and restart Logos (it should start indexing again, which may take a few hours):

/Users/eberlein/Library/Application Support/Logos4/Data/d5641vkc.6jn/BibleIndex

/Users/eberlein/Library/Application Support/Logos4/Data/d5641vkc.6jn/LibraryIndex

I just followed these instructions. Will let you know of the outcome once the indexing finished. Since I am traveling in the next few days, it will take a bit to try out the search after the indexing finished.

Armin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087078#Comment_1087078

For any resource where one has both the old and new resource downloaded, the old resource will not return results for searches of any kind.

Does this imply that you get the search results in the new resource? I have both resources and neither resource shows the search results.

Correct. I consistently get results for the newer resource.

This makes it even more interesting. Let's see what the outcome is of the step that Bradley recommended.

Armin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087132#Comment_1087132

Hi Bradley,

Deleting these two folders and re-indexing fixed the problem. Many thanks.

Armin