L9 Desktop: Preaching Mode should not be in the broswer

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George Simopoulos | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Oct 26 2020 12:35 PM

I am very disappointed to see that preaching mode uses the internet browser instead of the Logos app. As an an itinerant speaker, I cannot rely on the different qualities of WiFi that different locations will have (or that there will even be Wifi!). Faithlife, please fix this. I want to keep all my prep and presentation material on Logos, but this is a deal breaker for me.

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Ryland Brown | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 26 2020 12:44 PM

Do you preach from your computer?  It works from my ipad without an internet connection and doesn't open up the browser.

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Levi Durfey | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 26 2020 12:58 PM

I was also surprised that they put the preaching mode in an external web browser instead of the desktop app itself. Perhaps they ran out of time to implement it in the app itself. Perhaps it will come later.

In the meantime, keep in mind that, once you load the sermon in the browser window, you don't need the internet. You can even save the webpage for offline use later.

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Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 26 2020 1:03 PM

I have not used preaching mode yet and did not use the L8 sermon starter.  I have made personal books for my sermons and it works very well for me.  I will probably give preaching mode a try, but if I cannot get a layout similar to what I can do in a docx, then I dont think I will be willing to use it.

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Levi Durfey | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 26 2020 1:04 PM

Also--you can make a request for an in-app Preaching Mode at Faithlife Feedback: https://feedback.faithlife.com/boards/logos-desktop-app

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George Simopoulos | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 26 2020 1:06 PM

I do preach/teach from a laptop rather than a tablet for a variety of reasons. 

I really hope that this was done in haste and will be rectified because it is just too much to expect that every setting will have WiFi, especially when teaching in areas of the world where WiFi isn't ubiquitous. 

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Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 26 2020 1:13 PM

George Simopoulos:

I do preach/teach from a laptop rather than a tablet for a variety of reasons. 

I really hope that this was done in haste and will be rectified because it is just too much to expect that every setting will have WiFi, especially when teaching in areas of the world where WiFi isn't ubiquitous. 

I agree.  I am often preaching in areas where there is no internet.  It is the reason why I use personal books and a full windows tablet to preach

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Daniel Di Bartolo | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 26 2020 1:15 PM

Hi George, thank you for the feedback. I have good news for you!

We designed Preaching Mode to be a "mobile first" feature, meaning we anticipate most people using Preaching Mode from their tablet or mobile device. Early on in development, we spent time talking with people about their preaching habits, including their tools. Overwelmingly, people told us they use paper (about 50%) or they use a mobile device (of which most specifically said 'tablet").

The good news is that Preaching Mode works perfectly offline on our iOS and Android mobile apps. We designed it that way because we know reliability is paramount, we don't want to let you down in such a high stakes situation or require you to have trustworthy internet. 

We download a copy of the sermon doc locally to your phone, and when you launch preaching mode (which you can do from any Sermon Doc), you are using a saved copy of the sermon. You only need internet to 1x to download your sermon docs to your phone. Once they are synced, no internet is needed. 

You can use Preaching Mode offline on phones and tablets on iOS and Android. 

If for any reason you can't or don't prefer to use your mobile device-- please note that we do download the entire sermon to your browser when you load it on desktop. You can go offline and still use the sermon doc in the browser, though refereshing would blow it away.

Hope that helps!

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Christopher Bucklin | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 26 2020 1:36 PM

Yeah, this is poorly implemented. We should be able to use the preaching feature without the internet on our laptops.

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George Simopoulos | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 26 2020 1:46 PM

Thank you for the response, Daniel. I still think this is a poor compromise for people that choose to use laptops. There are times when, upon reviewing my notes, I realize I've made a mistake or I want to add something and must edit what I've written. If I am somewhere without access to WiFi, those edits cannot be synced, and I cannot present what I intend. I could, of course,  forgo the risk and stick to written manuscripts/PowerPoint, but I was hoping to begin transferring my material to Logos so I could have a one-stop-shop for prep and presentation. For me, this feature is let down.

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Daniel Di Bartolo | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 26 2020 2:01 PM

George, we appreciate the candid feedback and will take it into consideration as we move forward. 

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Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 26 2020 3:11 PM

George Simopoulos:
There are times when, upon reviewing my notes, I realize I've made a mistake or I want to add something and must edit what I've written. If I am somewhere without access to WiFi, those edits cannot be synced

Yes, I am constantly updating the sermon notes, even a few minutes before preaching.  So this is a good point.

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Dennis Toll | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 26 2020 3:45 PM

I for one am extremely grateful to see the preaching mode in the web app. Now I can preach from my Chromebook. At least that will be the plan. The more features in the web app, the more I appreciate the product. Thanks. 

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Logan Keck | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 23 2020 1:42 PM

I would also like to see this feature updated. I used a surface tablet for preaching. I got it as an upgrade over my android tablet. I find it strange that it is more complicated to preach from the full featured app. I have even been looking into emulation options so i can run the mobile app on my surface pro. 

Similarly, it would be very helpful to be able to edit the sermon on mobile. I am in the habit of tweaking my sermon often and it is much more seamless to use Microsoft word at the moment because it allows editing on every platform as well as reading in presentation mode. Obviously Logos has more features than the word processor, but I hope you will prioritize editing as the app develops.

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 23 2020 6:49 PM

Just fyi: https://feedback.faithlife.com/boards/logos-desktop-app/posts/add-preaching-mode-to-windows

“I want you to know how the people should behave in the house of God, which is the Church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.” - 1 Timothy 3:15 (EOB:NT).

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Ryan Fairer | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 9 2021 11:09 AM

Hi Ryland

How did you get preaching mode to work without an internet connection on your tablet?

I have a concern that the internet may fail one day, and I want to be able to advance my note pages and use them regardless of whether or not the internet is reliable.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 9 2021 2:00 PM

HI Ryan - and welcome to the forums

Ryan Fairer:
How did you get preaching mode to work without an internet connection on your tablet?

Preaching mode on iOS or Android tablets does not require an active Internet connection

Graham

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David Ames | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 9 2021 2:29 PM

Graham Criddle:

HI Ryan - and welcome to the forums

Ryan Fairer:
How did you get preaching mode to work without an internet connection on your tablet?

Preaching mode on iOS or Android tablets does not require an active Internet connection

Graham

But do you have to 'download' it to the tablet with active internet at the time you move it to the tablet to use it later without active internet?

[Or could you 'download' it with just a USB cable?] 

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 9 2021 3:15 PM

David Ames:

But do you have to 'download' it to the tablet with active internet at the time you move it to the tablet to use it later without active internet?

[Or could you 'download' it with just a USB cable?] 

You need to use an active internet connection to sync it to the tablet - but it happens automatically as part of the standard Logos sync activity

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