Mike Hanes: Can We Get an Update?

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Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Feb 1 2021 4:43 PM

Hey Mike, you mentioned here that you would see what you can do about getting the 1 Enoch Hermeneia translation in Logos.  In light of the fact that we just got the Jubilees Hermeneia translation released through Logos, could we get some kind of update on 1 Enoch?

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Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 3 2021 3:58 AM

Bump for the morning.

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Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 5 2021 4:25 AM

Maybe Mike will be around today?

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Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 8 2021 3:44 AM

Today could be the day!

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JC54 | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 9 2021 2:58 AM

I am not very enthousiastic about this resource, but love your enthousiasm. Bump for you!

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 9 2021 8:45 AM

Let me share an ad I saw a while ago and post it here as reference for when you come looking for an update 😂😂😂

“We don’t give updates today, please, come back tomorrow!” 

DAL

Ps. The ad was actually about giving credit when you go to the little town’s groceries store because you don’t want to pay today 😂😂😂  “No credit today, please, come back tomorrow!” And the same ad was there the next day 😂😂😂 so pretty much no credit at all 😁

Anyway, I hope you get your update with this post 👍😁👌

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Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 11 2021 3:57 AM

JC54:

I am not very enthousiastic about this resource, but love your enthousiasm. Bump for you!

Thanks!

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Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 12 2021 3:44 AM

DAL:
Anyway, I hope you get your update with this post

I'll take all the help I can get!

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Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 16 2021 6:48 AM

Jude 14-15 quotes directly from 1 Enoch, but there is an issue of translation which would benefit from multiple translations.

Jude 14–15 (NRSV)
14 It was also about these that Enoch, in the seventh generation from Adam, prophesied, saying, “See, the Lord is coming with ten thousands of his holy ones, 15 to execute judgment on all, and to convict everyone of all the deeds of ungodliness that they have committed in such an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things that ungodly sinners have spoken against him.”

1 Enoch 1:9 (Hermeneia Translation)

Look, he comes with the myriads of his holy ones, to execute judgment on all, and to destroy all the wicked, and to convict all humanity for all the wicked deeds that they have done, and the proud and hard words that wicked sinners spoke against him.

1 Enoch 1:9 (OTP1) [Our current best scholarly translation]

9* Behold, he will arrive with ten million of the holy ones in order to execute judgment upon all. He will destroy the wicked ones and censure all flesh on account of everything that they have done, that which the sinners and the wicked ones committed against him.”

Note that there is a translation issue at the end of the verse, where Jude and the Hermeneia translation use harsh things/hard words spoken against vs. OTP1's translation of "that," for which there is a footnote pointing to the fact that Charles was for amending the translation to follow Jude.

It would be much easier to make these comparisons if we had the Hermeneia translation to consult in Logos...just like we have the Jubilees Hermeneia translation in Logos...and just like we have the complete commentary set, which would seem to indicate that there would be no issues acquiring the 1 Enoch translation.

Of course we would know if only there was an update. 

If...only...there...was...an...update...

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Mike Hanes | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 16 2021 8:03 AM

Thanks Joseph, I should have an update soon.

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Mike Hanes | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 16 2021 10:50 AM

This is now available to Pre-Order, thanks for your patience.

https://www.logos.com/product/205143/1-enoch-the-hermeneia-translation

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Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 16 2021 11:00 AM

Thank you, Mike!  I think I’ve decided against getting it...JUST KIDDING!!!  Preorder placed!  Thank you!

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