NET Bible & Pre-Pubs

I was scrolling through the Pre-Pub's section looking for any news regarding NET Bible: Full Notes, 2nd ed.

Link is here: https://www.logos.com/product/189785/net-bible-full-notes-2nd-ed

And I found this:

So, how long we will have to wait for NET Bible: Full Notes, 2nd ed. and Ezekiel 38-48 AYB Commentary - not mentioning the other Pre-Pubs? Wink Wink Wink

I’m not sure if I’ll be alive in 2076. In 2099 I would have 115 years... Wink Wink Wink Wink and FL would publish the Logos 39 edition LOL Wink

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Bruce Dunning

I’m not sure if I’ll be alive in 2076. In 2099 I would have 115 years... and FL would publish the Logos 39 edition LOL

Faithlife is doing some long-range planning. [:)]

Robert M. Warren

In the year 2525...

DAL

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1173528#Comment_1173528

Well, you’ll know who you really are by then 😂😂😂

DAL

Robert M. Warren

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1173535#Comment_1173535

Indeed, but my real intent was to give the old folks in the forums an audio virus from the 60s.

Dr. Charles A. Wootten

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1173555#Comment_1173555

hunh... I resemble that remark. Now the tune will bother me for hours and hours.... heheheh.... 😛

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1173585#Comment_1173585

At least man's still alive ...

Steve. Kilgore

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1173613#Comment_1173613

As with others, amazed at the length of time this is taking. I did notice that on the NET Bible site they do not list Logos as one of the platforms on which NET Bible is available (https://netbible.com/download/). Wondering if there has been a falling out between the Biblical Studies Foundation and Faithlife.

Joe McCune (Faithlife)

fr.paul,

I have asked for the projected release dates to be corrected for Incredibly Normal as well as Triune Love.

Thank you for bringing these errors to our attention.

fr.paul

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1176384#Comment_1176384

Dear Joe McCune,

I'm glad to know that! I would be even happier if you may "correct" somehow the release date of the NET Bible, 2nd ed.
Considering that we have paid for this product it's a bit frustrating that it has not received the same priority as many other new books that FL has already published and is going to sale. Instead, we are still waiting... please don't get me wrong but just look into the Reviews section...

Please Friends, I'm absolutely not biasing anything here and I know that we have to be patient but "quousque tandem"?
Just to be clear, I absolutely Love Logos/Verbum platform!
So, my Dear Faithlife "quousque tandem"?

Steve. Kilgore

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1176389#Comment_1176389

Per Logos Customer Support

At this time, the NET Bible 2^nd edition is not showing our website for sale, even as a pre-pub order. While it is hard to predict what the future will hold, and we may sell the NET 2^nd edition at a later time, we do not have it available now.

If you’d like to make a book suggestion to our team, we do have our book suggestion forum here: https://feedback.faithlife.com/boards/logos-book-requests.

Paul Caneparo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1178767#Comment_1178767

Per Logos Customer Support

At this time, the NET Bible 2^nd edition is not showing our website for sale, even as a pre-pub order. While it is hard to predict what the future will hold, and we may sell the NET 2^nd edition at a later time, we do not have it available now.

If you’d like to make a book suggestion to our team, we do have our book suggestion forum here: https://feedback.faithlife.com/boards/logos-book-requests.

This suggests it is still for sale:

https://www.logos.com/product/189785/net-bible-full-notes-2nd-ed

Matt Hamrick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1176389#Comment_1176389

Dear Joe McCune,

I'm glad to know that! I would be even happier if you may "correct" somehow the release date of the NET Bible, 2nd ed.
Considering that we have paid for this product it's a bit frustrating that it has not received the same priority as many other new books that FL has already published and is going to sale. Instead, we are still waiting... please don't get me wrong but just look into the Reviews section...

Please Friends, I'm absolutely not biasing anything here and I know that we have to be patient but "quousque tandem"?
Just to be clear, I absolutely Love Logos/Verbum platform!
So, my Dear Faithlife "quousque tandem"?

Now you know the frustration of EEC we have long been complaining about.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1178779#Comment_1178779

In my lifetime I have subscribed to 3 series - none of which came close to meeting their original production dates. One after taking slightly more than twice as long to complete became on ongoing series with no end date. One discovered that one volume simply could not be produced ... insufficient data. One is still ongoing but not hitting the advertised publication dates.

Steven Veach

I'm not certain what it will/would be like in LOGOS but I know in TW5 it was a terrible update. Instead of two modules (bible/notes) it combined both bible and notes into one module which basically mean you could only use the NET notes if you were using the NET bible. I use the NET notes like a quick reference commentary alongside my NKJV. Couldn't do it with version 2.

Also, it appears as if the NET 2 is a trimmed down version of 1. They removed entries. I'm sure they added some, but I am fine with keeping NET 1 notes just the way they are. I'll decide what to disregard.

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1178804#Comment_1178804

I would also like to jump on the bandwagon here and ask that the NET 2 at least have its date corrected or cancelled. I'm hoping for #1 as I do really like the NET

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1179077#Comment_1179077

BUMPing on the NET bible...

Robert M. Warren

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1179077#Comment_1179077

ask that the NET 2 at least have its date corrected or cancelled.

Since many of us already own the 2nd Ed reverse interlinears, if they cancel the actual bible, won't that be like having sold us the transmission for an Edsel?

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1187766#Comment_1187766

ask that the NET 2 at least have its date corrected or cancelled.

Since many of us already own the 2nd Ed reverse interlinears, if they cancel the actual bible, won't that be like having sold us the transmission for an Edsel?

It is also included in several packages and feature sets so many of us have already paid for it and still not received it yet

Beloved Amodeo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1187762#Comment_1187762

BUMPing on the NET bible...

NET2 Bible with Full Notes is a gem. I couldn't wait anymore, I bought a hard copy. It's a monster. Would be highly PO'ed if it gets canceled for any reason short of a Chinese ultrasonic tactical nuke attack on Bellingham.

Apply the pressure brothers and sisters!

Mark

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1187802#Comment_1187802

We need the NET2 Bible!

fr.paul

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1187807#Comment_1187807

Indeed, we need the NET Bible 2ed.! [Y]
Personally, I hope that before buying one of the Logos 10 packages, we will be able to see this resource in our libraries. Or FL is going to offer another bunch of resources whose publication we will be waiting for, for next two or more years? Hopefully not! But who knows, who knows...

Examples:

https://www.logos.com/product/200717/great-preaching-on-prayer
https://www.logos.com/product/200709/great-preaching-on-the-bible
https://www.logos.com/product/200648/great-preaching-on-heaven
https://www.logos.com/product/200653/great-preaching-on-christ
https://www.logos.com/product/200574/great-preaching-on-the-resurrection

https://www.logos.com/product/150263/the-heart-of-torah-essays-on-the-weekly-torah-portion-vol-1-and-2
https://www.logos.com/product/150113/chanting-the-hebrew-bible-the-art-of-cantillation-2nd-ed
https://www.logos.com/product/144294/jonah-and-the-meaning-of-our-lives-a-verse-by-verse-contemporary-commentary
(Last 3 sold and gathering interests (sic!))

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1176384#Comment_1176384

fr.paul,

I have asked for the projected release dates to be corrected for Incredibly Normal as well as Triune Love.

Thank you for bringing these errors to our attention.

Joe

Might you have any insight on the NET 2nd edition? Worth a shot

Daniel Motley (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1187830#Comment_1187830

Might you have any insight on the NET 2nd edition? Worth a shot

Nothing to report at this time other than we are continuing to work on it. Thanks for your patience!

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1187847#Comment_1187847

Might you have any insight on the NET 2nd edition? Worth a shot

Nothing to report at this time other than we are continuing to work on it. Thanks for your patience!

Thank you! Just glad you are still working on it

mab

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1187862#Comment_1187862

The NET Bible is part of my first Logos 9 package. Gets a little frustrating waiting so long, but I know these things are a bit of a challenge.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1187847#Comment_1187847

Nothing to report at this time other than we are continuing to work on it.

Take your time .... as long as you don't over-write NET 1st Edition later.

Kiyah

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1187802#Comment_1187802

NET2 Bible with Full Notes is a gem. I couldn't wait anymore, I bought a hard copy.

How is it different from NET1. Whenever I go to the NET2 online I don't see any differences in the notes from NET1. Did they change the translation?

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1187917#Comment_1187917

How is it different from NET1

[quote]

NET Bible First Edition to Second Edition Changes

The most substantial editing work for this Second Edition centered on the essential task of creating an updated Strong’s Hebrew/Greek to English mapping of the entire translation. This allowed the discovery of discrepancies and inconsistencies as well as creating a collating base for comparing consistency across the entire Bible. We completed many items on our list of initiatives for the Second Edition:

Both OT and NT have updated Strong’s tagged using phrase tagging as well as multiple number tagging.
This detailed Strong’s tagging was used to detect and correct inconsistencies across the OT.
Divine names in the OT have been made more consistent.
Technical terms related to geography, feast names, and the tabernacle have been made more consistent.
References to explicit sexual body parts or sexual acts have been made more euphemistic like it is in the Hebrew and Greek. Sometimes a more transparent translation isn’t always better, such as reading the Christmas story with young children.
Awkward/unidiomatic renderings were revised, and
Hebrew references in footnotes were corrected and standardized.
We did delete about 3300 footnotes which were deemed unnecessary and superfluous such as “δε has not been translated” or “και has not been translated due to differences in Greek and English style.”

We did not have any changes in translation philosophy between the first drafts and the new Second Edition, and our appreciation of the guidance and faithfulness of W. Hall Harris and the translators remains deep-seated and grows stronger with time. This Second Edition solely comprehends tasks the team had in mind as unfinished and future when we closed down our work on the First Edition. With these tens of thousands of updates, we strove to make a fine translation better. As you know, the extensive use of translators’ notes has simultaneously removed stress for the translators as well as given innumerable insights to the reader by providing a way for the translators to add nuances normally lost in translation.

For a complete list of every verse changed and what changes were made, please visit the NET Bible’s update page…

http://netbible.com/changes

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1187918#Comment_1187918

NET 2nd edition is featured in the sale...

https://www.logos.com/new-years/study-bibles

Paul Caneparo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1191532#Comment_1191532

Updated NET Bible releasing February in Logos.

Levi Durfey

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1193528#Comment_1193528

The NET Bible (2nd Edition) automatically downloaded this morning. [:)]

Paul Caneparo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1193554#Comment_1193554

The NET Bible (2nd Edition) automatically downloaded this morning.

It ships February 1st for those who pre-ordered it as a separate resource. Looks like if you bought as part of a package that you get it earlier.

Kathleen Marie

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1193554#Comment_1193554

I'm so excited to have this in Logos, now. I have it on my mobile devices (text, notes, and audio) using other software, but really want it in Logos on my main machine. I want it to be one of my top Bibles in Logos specifically so I can include it in my academic studies with more ease.

Yes!!!!

Robert M. Warren

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1193556#Comment_1193556

The NET Bible (2nd Edition) automatically downloaded this morning.

I also note that, while the NT RVI also downloaded, the OT RVI hasn't appeared yet.

EDIT: The front matter indicates that the print edition has a different arrangement of the notes. While I see the notes by way of popup, I don't see a separate resource to have open. Maybe all that's been explained and I missed it.

Duh_EDIT: Yeah, Columns (1) and Show Footnotes. A little different than study notes we're used to.

GaoLu

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1193570#Comment_1193570

I am pleased to have 2.0. Now, I want to run 1.0 and 2.0 side by side to note differences.

Rick Brannan (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1193570#Comment_1193570

The NET Bible (2nd Edition) automatically downloaded this morning.

I also note that, while the NT RVI also downloaded, the OT RVI hasn't appeared yet.

The OT Reverse Interlinear is not ready yet, but since the NT was we included it. The OT will be forthcoming; I do not have an estimate for its delivery at present.

Kathleen Marie

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1193586#Comment_1193586

I looked at packages that include the Bible, so I could maybe have it quicker, but that is not going happen this month! LOL!

Kathleen Marie

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1193586#Comment_1193586

I am pleased to have 2.0. Now, I want to run 1.0 and 2.0 side by side to note differences.

I'd love to hear about what you find!

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1193591#Comment_1193591

My 2nd Edition Bible downloaded today. Is there another version coming with just the notes? The first NET Bible in Logos had several pieces:

Greek Text

Bible

Bible First Edition (notes)

Bible First Edition (noteless)

Will we get something similar w/ the second edition? One to easily view just the notes?

Paul Caneparo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1193595#Comment_1193595

My 2nd Edition Bible downloaded today. Is there another version coming with just the notes? The first NET Bible in Logos had several pieces:

Greek Text

Bible

Bible First Edition (notes)

Bible First Edition (noteless)

Will we get something similar w/ the second edition? One to easily view just the notes?

The product page says:

The Second Edition contains updated text and notes.

I wonder whether the full download doesn't happen until February 1st as that's the release according to the product page.

https://www.logos.com/product/189785/net-bible-full-notes-2nd-ed

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1193602#Comment_1193602

My 2nd Edition Bible downloaded today. Is there another version coming with just the notes? The first NET Bible in Logos had several pieces:

Greek Text

Bible

Bible First Edition (notes)

Bible First Edition (noteless)

Will we get something similar w/ the second edition? One to easily view just the notes?

The product page says:

The Second Edition contains updated text and notes.

I wonder whether the full download doesn't happen until February 1st as that's the release according to the product page.

https://www.logos.com/product/189785/net-bible-full-notes-2nd-ed

Maybe Rick or Daniel have some thoughts? I'm hoping for just a notes version because I like to use it as a study bible and reference the notes. Following the foot notes in the NET2nd is time consuming even with power lookup because they are all garbled together. I wish there could be spaces between each entry

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1193588#Comment_1193588

The NET Bible (2nd Edition) automatically downloaded this morning.

I also note that, while the NT RVI also downloaded, the OT RVI hasn't appeared yet.

The OT Reverse Interlinear is not ready yet, but since the NT was we included it. The OT will be forthcoming; I do not have an estimate for its delivery at present.

Mr Rick

Do you know if there will also be just a notes version because I like to use it as a study bible and reference the notes. The first NET bible had several resources like just a notes version.

Thank you

Kathleen Marie

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1194456#Comment_1194456

So, I got the NET 2 today and the Greek, but not the notes or the Hebrew. I am pretty excited to have the main text, though. I have been using it more and more in my devotional time in other apps, and it is awkward not to also have it in Logos for my studies. I do have the notes of the 1st edition. I have enough to limp along if I want to prioritize the NET 2 to my second favorite Bible.

I am curious about the mention of the NET 2.1 having better Strong's integration. It was pointed out earlier that was a worthless feature in Logos, but is it worthless in general? Does it help the Bible work better in some less powerful software, for hardcopy study, and as a commentary for KJVO groups?

Robert M. Warren

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1193570#Comment_1193570

I think the silence from Faithlife here on the separate notes resource question, along with the statement on the product page ('contains updated text and notes') means there will be no separate notes resource. Reading with footnotes displayed is going to be too cumbersome.

I think my best alternative will be to use it in a link set with Power Lookup.

Does anyone have more creative suggestions?

David Carter

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1193682#Comment_1193682

Following the foot notes in the NET2nd is time consuming even with power lookup because they are all garbled together. I wish there could be spaces between each entry

Maybe I am misunderstanding you, but there seems to be plenty of space between entries on my screen - this is a screen cap from my desktop PC

Kathleen Marie

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1195115#Comment_1195115

On further examination, I do have notes! I think they are the FULL notes, but I have not yet confirmed that.

On the website, I see that I purchased the NET 2 full notes, but I did not see them in my software as a separate download, as I do with the NET 1.

Paul Caneparo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1195139#Comment_1195139

I think part of the problem is that the original version was also sold as a single purchase. Although looking at the product page I note the original version states:

The product will download as three separate resources for the text and the notes.

The revised version doesn't make this distinction. I was certainly expecting the notes to be a separate resource. It's a same the notes aren't separate. I'm not sure yet whether the notes have changed much though. If not I guess I can link notes from the original to the translation from the updated version.

Beloved Amodeo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1195152#Comment_1195152

In discussions with CS regarding this issue what I could ferret out from them is that the publisher made the decision to release the resource the way we have it. We were not charged for a separate edition for the notes which as you know is not available. This was not communicated to us thus the confusion. On a cursory review there does not appear to be much difference in the newly released notes. But, I see no advantage in linking the first edition notes with the second edition, except maybe to proof the second edition.

Kathleen Marie

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1195173#Comment_1195173

Thanks for all the clarifications! I am so happy to have this version added to my logos library! I have been counting down the days.

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1195115#Comment_1195115

Following the foot notes in the NET2nd is time consuming even with power lookup because they are all garbled together. I wish there could be spaces between each entry

Maybe I am misunderstanding you, but there seems to be plenty of space between entries on my screen - this is a screen cap from my desktop PC

It is not on my Mac. Though I have seen it worse, this is what I have.