Please help me

Tes said:

I want to copy from the Amharic Bible in the web:http://www.biblica.com/uploads/pdf-files/bibles/amharic/ot/nehemiah.pdf ,but what I get is not the alphabets ,instead I get the following: "bNg#\#  bxR-@KSS  zmn  mNG |T b¦Ã¾W ›mT n!úN tBlÖ b¸-‰W wR ywYN -J bmÈlT g!z@½ ywYN -°N xN|c& lNg#\# " Is there a way to help me,so as to be able to paste .

I also don't get anything other than gibberish.  My guess is that it's a font problem.  Perhaps your source doesn't use a unicode compatible font but one of the old legacy fonts.

Rosie is right - you need the font. But you should be able to extract the font using a website like this one: http://onlinefontconverter.com/extract_font_from_pdf.php

I was able to correctly view most of the document after installing several of the fonts listed in the pdf, I viewed the pdf in notepad to see what was going on behind the scenes. It lists EthioSoft, VG2Agazian, VG2Title, VG2Main, TimesNewRoman. The attached file has the VG2 Fonts... I am unable to locate EthioSoft, will keep trying though.

Gary

7522.TES Fonts.zip

Tes said:

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George,how could you manage it? you have typed  here in Amharic.<span class="EthiopicText" xml:lang="gez">የሐጎልድ ል᎐ⶎ የ</span>

You can do it by using the Shibboleth program available free from Logos.  You can get it here

http://www.logos.com/shibboleth

I'll warn you, however, that it isn't very quick and easy to use since it doesn't appear to have an Amharic keyboard to you need to click on the glyphs.

I think with some work you should be able to copy/paste the majority of the text. In my previous post I attached the fonts required to get the majority of the text to paste correctly... still unable to locate EthioSoft. In the image below I show a side-by-side of the nehemiah.pdf (left side) and what pasted into OpenOffice Writer (right side). I highlighted in yellow the differences. The first bad paste was the "µ", created with the alt+0181 code and the second was the à created with the alt+0195 code. If you hold down the alt key and type the number when you let go of the alt key the special character is created. If you use the find/replace feature in your Office program you can quickly change the bad paste areas. In the find box put a copy of the bad character and in the replace box use the alt code to place the correct character. Then hit find, verify it is a bad area and then hit replace.

If you want me to help find the bad areas let me know, I can't read the language but I can spot differences.

Gary

I am not sure Tes what is the problem. I see the pdf file correct. I have Windows 7 and MS Office 2010 installed. No extra special fonts installed.

Bohuslav Wojnar said:

I am not sure Tes what is the problem. I see the pdf file correct. I have Windows 7 and MS Office 2010 installed. No extra special fonts installed.

It is no problem for Tes or anyone else to see the PDF file correctly, because the needed fonts are embedded into the file. But he wants to be able to copy text out of the PDF file and paste into Word, where the proper fonts are not available. Hence the difficulty. Hopefully Gary can help him out.

Tes said:

I was thinking about you if you have understood it how Gary has done it, I could easily understand the way ,you  explain it  by the screenshot.

Gary found the fonts for you. In his post (http://community.logos.com/forums/p/27083/200173.aspx#200173) he attached a .zip file. Download that zip file. (Right click on it and Save As... on your hard disk.) Then unzip it (double-click on it and click "Extract all files").

Now select all four font files that were extracted, right-click, and click Install:

Now select text from the nehemiah.pdf file, copy and paste into Word. At first it will look like garbage characters, depending on what your default font is (this is copied from Nehemiah 1:1-2 from the Amharic):

Now select all that text.

Next format it using one of the VG2 fonts (which are Amharic; you won't be able to read the font names, but you will see them obviously in the Font dropdown list in Word, and they come alphabetically where VG2... would appear):

Now it looks like this (I used the middle Amharic font):

Now once it's readable to you, you can edit it however you like.

I hope that works!

Tes said:

I have got this,it is different than yours Rosie.

You're almost there! You missed one small step that I presumed you knew how to do (sorry about that):

Rosie Perera said:

Now select all four font files that were extracted, right-click, and click Install:

To "select all four font files," click on the first one, then hold the Shift key down and click on the last one, and all four will be selected. Then right click anywhere in the blue highlighted area and the menu will pop up. Click "Install" (Windows will install the fonts; you might have to click OK on a dialog box; I can't remember).

Then continue with the rest of my instructions.

Tes said:

I have been trying ,when I click the first one ,then i hold the shift key down ,but all I get is just as I have showed it below.

Oh, it looks like you are trying to do it inside the zip file, rather than in the folder where the font files got extracted to. I hadn't noticed this clue before in your screen shot:

Did you click "Alle Dateien extrahieren"? If you did that, you should have seen a dialog box like this:

(Of course it will be in German and will have your user name instead of mine.) If you got that, take note of the folder where the fonts will be extracted to (you can choose to enter a different folder if you want), then click Extract. Then go in Windows Explorer to that folder where the fonts were extracted to. Then you should be able to install the fonts as I've described.

Rosie Perera said:

Bohuslav Wojnar said:

I am not sure Tes what is the problem. I see the pdf file correct. I have Windows 7 and MS Office 2010 installed. No extra special fonts installed.

 

It is no problem for Tes or anyone else to see the PDF file correctly, because the needed fonts are embedded into the file. But he wants to be able to copy text out of the PDF file and paste into Word, where the proper fonts are not available. Hence the difficulty. Hopefully Gary can help him out.

Yes, I see. Sorry for not noticing what is the problem. Through the print driver I was able to convert the file to XPS format however. That is not the solution either, since to get it from the XPS to doc is also difficult. The proper fonts are a solution. Good luck Tes. It is one more reason we need to have Amharic Bible in Logos.

God bless you.

Hello,

I gave this site a try and it worked: http://www.pdfunlock.com/

Download the pdf's to your computer before going to the site, you have to click on Browse and find the file for it to unlock the pdf.

Let me know if you have any issues and I'll try to find another solution.

Time for church...

Gary

George Somsel said:

Tes said:

Hi, George it was almost seven months ago.

Oh !  I thought it was after Rosie suggested it here.  I can understand your frustration.  I doubt anyone will answer after that length of time.

I doubt the folks on the Word user support forum are as helpful as we are, too. There are so many more users to support, and figuring out a crash in Word is not something users can generally do as we can sometimes do with Logos crashes. I doubt the users have such a great connection with the developers nor as good a logging facility to help track down problems. Anyway, I'm sorry about your situation, Tes.

The only consolation I can give you is that a crash is fairly harmless if it only happens when shutting down Word. As long as you have saved all your files before closing the program, you won't lose any data. It's just an annoyance, and you have to remember not to close an open document before saving all the other ones. Best to just keep all documents open (and save regularly) until you are ready to close Word completely.

Hello Tes,

I tried sending you an email but got this error message "Benutzer hat das Speichervolumen ueberschritten. / User has exhausted allowed storage space."

So here is most of what I tried to send...

"Since your Word crashing situation could be any number of things I can't help you. I have not used Word in many years, I got tired of all the problems and the high cost to stay up to date. I switched over to the OpenOffice Suite, found at www.openoffice.org and to download the German language version http://download.openoffice.org/other.html

You can try reinstalling Microsoft Office, updating to the latest version or give OpenOffice a try. It is free and can save and open Word documents, it also has an Excel/Access/Powerpoint equivalent.

Have a great day..."

I can try emailing you again if you would like me to. You can email me "gary DOT keene @ gmail DOT com" if you would like any assistance.

Gary