What Logos development is doing
For the curious... silence from the Logos developers doesn't mean they are on vacation. It means they are working hard to deliver the things you're waiting for! :-)
There are concerns that Logos has abandoned this or that platform or feature, or that all the energy is on one particular area to the detriment of others. This isn't true. We have a large team split over many projects; the top priority projects generally have more than one person working on them.
Yes, if we cut the number of projects we could get a few of them done sooner. (Though it's often the case that adding 50% more people won't improve productivity by the same amount -- there are diminishing returns as more cooks stir the same pot.) But we believe these are all important things to deliver.
We are actively working on:
- Logos 4 Windows
- Logos 4 Mac
- Logos iOS improvements
- Logos for Android
- Proclaim for Mac/Windows/Mobile (remotes)
- A dozen miscellaneous but (trust me) very important projects related to improving our internal systems, cleaning up metadata, building out our platform, preparing unannounced things, etc., etc.
At the moment, we consider the platform wars "tied" for all of these. Windows has more users than Mac, but Mac is behind and needs improvement, and it is gaining market share on the way to 50%. We consider it equally important to Windows, and already are at the point where some new work is Mac first, then ported to Windows.
iOS has more users, but Android is growing very fast, and we're treating them as equally important. They have equally sized dev teams, though Android is a bit behind, and we're planning all new work/features for both.
We're even preparing for more (alas!) back-end re-writing / re-architecting, to enable us to share more code between all FOUR platforms.
Other mobile OS's are not getting as much attention, though Biblia.com and some HTML5 solutions are still getting some work.
Within the Logos 4 (dual platform) world, we're still working on things like PBB. PBB has been in development for many months, and is absolutely not abandoned. It just hasn't been ready to test or deliver yet. It's getting close.
SermonFile is a harder problem, because we don't like the way we used to do it. People wanted to put too many too different documents into that system, so we're planning a completely different approach that's web oriented. (More http://books.logos.com with document uploading than 3.x SermonFile.) Part of SermonFile functionality will be taken over by a much better PBB tool, part by this new web solution, which is further out than Q2.
We have somewhere around 40 full-time developers. Two started Monday. Two more are hired and starting in coming weeks. We have 14 software development interns this summer; 1 is already here, 6 start Monday, and then they keep coming on through June. We've added a UI designer, have two UI design summer interns, and we've hired more testers.
We are still hiring, and are willing to take at least 6 more full-time developers as soon as we can find them. We conduct multiple development interviews nearly every day. (Using valuable staff time, unfortunately.) We've sent our dev hiring manager to Wheaton, Baylor, and Seattle Pacific University in the past few weeks; we attended a four university career fair in Spokane before that. We've had the computer science faculty of our local Western Washington University in for lunch, and invited all the seniors to come by for a tour. We co-sponsored a local technical recruiting night. (http://bellinghamtechnight.com/)
We're not slacking off, and we're not abandoning your favorite planned features. If we're abandoning anything, it's sleep. :-)
-- Bob
P.S. Know a great software developer? Send them our way!
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Bob, thanks for the word.......I look forward to the features. Can you let us have some info on hebrew pronunciation? That is old and still outstanding.
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Thanks for the update. I personally like the additional testers, PBB and the recognition that everything got shoved into "sermons" - it was great fun browzing through the oddities. [:D] I'm even impressed with the path you are taking for broadened resources - Talmud, BCP, etc. And just so you don't think someone else is using my account - I trust a review of notes is right behind the sermon add-in.[;)]
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Bob, thank you for the open and clear response. It allows the consumer the ability to make decisions much easier.
I am excited for Logos and what the future holds for the company in Bible Study offerings as I stated to Jerry earlier today when I spoke to him.
I love a lot of what I hear and some that concerns me for my needs from the software. With this great Customer Relations release it will help this user make a decision for his Bible Study needs.
I really hope that if Sermon File is drastically changed it is for the better, because it was outstanding the way it was, with the import and data entry functions available and without them could be lacking from where it started.
No matter as I told Jerry, if I were to choose a different path, I would still recommend Logos with the utmost grading for Mac Users. PC and Android TBD
Either way Logos has been an incredible tool and blessing for me since the LLS days.
Many Blessings to the Company
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Thank you so much Bob... I just got Nexflix on my Droid tonight and Logos would make it complete! It is the one app I have been waiting, waiting, and waiting for. I am tired of carrying an ipod touch around JUST for Logos.
Thanks again, and let me know if you need any beta testers. I have used Logos for 15 years and would be glad to beta test for android
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Bob Pritchett said:
People wanted to put too many too different documents into that system
hmmmm....sounds like the same issue that notes have. I still say that if you create a single (good) ui for us to store all of our information, it will be easier to maintain and easier for us to use.
There is no reason to have a unique subsystem for notes, clippings, sermon, and etc...
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Thanks Bob,
These little peaks inside the windows are great for Morale! And it never hurts that it titilates my own desire to know more. :-)
Oh this makes me giddy with expectation.Bob Pritchett said:... projects related to ...preparing unannounced things,
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Thanks for the update, Bob. Looking forward to the Android app release.
Pastor, Cornerstone Baptist Church, Clinton, SC
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Man, I wish I had the programming chops. Helping make Logos better would be my dream job. I love writing code and I love Logos.
Anyway, very well put Bob. Thanks for the info.
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Bob Pritchett said:
For the curious... silence from the Logos developers doesn't mean they are on vacation. It means they are working hard to deliver the things you're waiting for! :-)
Hey Bob, any word yet on what Logos will be doing for the iOS apps now that Apple have changed their Ebooks pricing policy?
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Bob Pritchett said:
We're not slacking off, and we're not abandoning your favorite planned features.
Great communication, Bob. Thank you.
Dave
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Dollars to donuts Bob was getting numerous email just because there hadn't been an update downloading to L4/M stable release in at least a week [;)]
Thanks Bob to you and your team of great workers. Makes our job of getting the Word out that much more fruitful.
The mind of man is the mill of God, not to grind chaff, but wheat. Thomas Manton | Study hard, for the well is deep, and our brains are shallow. Richard Baxter
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Bob,
I wonder if being able to share things like Note Files is in development or are we still talking the undefined future? I know that is something a lot of us would like.
The ability to do local backup and restore has also been asked for a number of times. I've been bitten a couple of times losing my collections, although I was able to recover by modifying the same collections on a second installation one at a time. That triggered a re-synch but was time consuming and if I didn't have the second installation I would have been out of luck.
Thanks for the report.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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Thanks for the update, PBB is my biggest wish.
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Thank you so much, Bob. This update is much appreciated.
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Thanks Bob!
This is really helpful and encouraging.
Help links: WIKI; Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)
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Thanks for priority update with Logos market share information, added " What Logos development is doing (includes platform priority insights) (Bob Pritchett, CEO) " to Logos Speaks wiki page.
Bob Pritchett said:We're not slacking off, and we're not abandoning your favorite planned features. If we're abandoning anything, it's sleep. :-)
Praying for appropriate rest (too little sleep = too many avoidable mistakes) along with anticipating future Logos Bible Study improvements.
Keep Smiling [:)]
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Thanks so much for the update.
Blessings
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Mark A. Smith said:
I've been bitten a couple of times losing my collections, although I was able to recover by modifying the same collections on a second installation one at a time.
Time Machine, part of the Mac OS, makes this easier. [:D] Sorry, couldn't help myself. Fingers started typing even while my mind was screaming, "Don't do that!" [8-|]
To keep this post on topic: Thank you, Bob, for the update. The comment about Mac Market Share was particularly informative.
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Thank you, Bob!
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Thank you very much Bob! That's good to hear...
We appreciate all the activity...we really do!
Robert Pavich
For help go to the Wiki: http://wiki.logos.com/Table_of_Contents__
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Greg Masone said:
Hey Bob, any word yet on what Logos will be doing for the iOS apps now that Apple have changed their Ebooks pricing policy?
We'll be recommending Android devices. :-)
Obviously we'll have to comply with Apple's guidelines...and we're still waiting to see how all this shakes out. (Will the Kindle app remain on the iPhone?)
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Mark A. Smith said:
being able to share things like Note Files is in development
Yes, document sharing is a super-high priority for us, and is actively being developed.
Mark A. Smith said:The ability to do local backup and restore has also been asked for a number of times.
I don't want to rehash the conversations (they're still online in old forum posts), but I can say that while this isn't off the table, it's also not being worked on right now.
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Thanks Bob!
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Bob Pritchett said:Greg Masone said:
Hey Bob, any word yet on what Logos will be doing for the iOS apps now that Apple have changed their Ebooks pricing policy?
We'll be recommending Android devices. :-)
Obviously we'll have to comply with Apple's guidelines...and we're still waiting to see how all this shakes out. (Will the Kindle app remain on the iPhone?)
If the iOS app is free and the resources are freely provided because they have already been paid for in our Logos 4 (home computer) license, why would there be any new charges? I will never use iOS if I have to pay $.99 per book to access my Logos library.
Any chance there will be a PDF dock in Logos? (You know QuickVerse has it but maybe that was their un-doing.) In that survey you took a long while back, I rated PDF access as a high priority because there are some documents that will never make it into Logos. added: I am referring to more than just adding a link. I am visualizing a directory of a PDF folder with all documents clickable; a PDF sub-section of my library. All from within Logos. [:P]
Oh, Thank you for starting this positive & informative thread. [Y]
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Bob Pritchett said:Mark A. Smith said:
being able to share things like Note Files is in development
Yes, document sharing is a super-high priority for us, and is actively being developed.
Mark A. Smith said:The ability to do local backup and restore has also been asked for a number of times.
I don't want to rehash the conversations (they're still online in old forum posts), but I can say that while this isn't off the table, it's also not being worked on right now.
Thank you, Bob.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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Matthew C Jones said:Bob Pritchett said:Greg Masone said:
Hey Bob, any word yet on what Logos will be doing for the iOS apps now that Apple have changed their Ebooks pricing policy?
We'll be recommending Android devices. :-)
Obviously we'll have to comply with Apple's guidelines...and we're still waiting to see how all this shakes out. (Will the Kindle app remain on the iPhone?)
If the iOS app is free and the resources are freely provided because they have already been paid for in our Logos 4 (home computer) license, why would there be any new charges? I will never use iOS if I have to pay $.99 per book to access my Logos library.
Apologies: crystal ball cloudy; not know about future of non-Apple and non-Google e-book apps (on iOS and Android) after July 1. If Apple evicts non-Apple e-book apps from their App Store (e.g. Kindle, Kobo, Nook, ...), would leave Apple with the only e-book app that can be used offline on iOS devices, which may be good for Apple's e-book store profits, but bad news for Apple's consumers (plus potential anti-trust implications). If Apple profit increases by being the primary (only) e-book agent on iOS devices, anticipate Google doing the same thing on Android (possibly including remote deletion of non-Google e-book apps, like Google has already done to malware Android apps). From a business profit perspective, can understand $ desire by Apple and Google to be the only e-book agents on their respective platforms while allowing access to other e-book purchases via web sites.
Personally hoping and praying for Logos Bible Software apps on iOS and Android devices, with feature improvement beyond e-book readers.
Likewise looking forward to Logos 4 improvements on Mac & PC.
Keep Smiling [:)]
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Bob Pritchett said:
For the curious... silence from the Logos developers doesn't mean they are on vacation. It means they are working hard to deliver the things you're waiting for! :-)
...We are still hiring, and are willing to take at least 6 more full-time developers as soon as we can find them. We conduct multiple development interviews nearly every day....P.S. Know a great software developer? Send them our way!
Bob,
Thank you for the status update/peek behind the corporate curtain!
As I flew into SEATAC yesterday with my family for a short between-careers vacation to the Aberdeen area, I realized I forgot to arrange the calendar to visit Logos [:(] I suggested to my wife that I should interview with Logos...it would be a dream job...although I've not coded anything substantial since the mid 80's--I'm in the executive IT management level these days. Humm...if you need to hire a forum troll, I guess I'm well qualified at that! [;)]
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If Apple evicts non-Apple e-book apps from their App Store (e.g. Kindle, Kobo, Nook, ...), would leave Apple with the only e-book app that can be used offline on iOS devices, (...) anticipate Google doing the same thing on Android (possibly including remote deletion of non-Google e-book apps,
Personally hoping and praying for Logos Bible Software apps on iOS and Android devices, with feature improvement beyond e-book readers. <<amen>>
Do Kindle and Nook allow Apple and Google e-books on their devices? maybe Apple and Google are saying you don't let us play in your pool so you can't play in ours. [and Logos and others are getting burnt in the middle] [Add Kobo to my list (never heard of it) ] [ignore that the others are readers only and Apple and Google are full powered computers]
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David Ames said:
If Apple evicts non-Apple e-book apps from their App Store (e.g. Kindle, Kobo, Nook, ...), would leave Apple with the only e-book app that can be used offline on iOS devices, (...) anticipate Google doing the same thing on Android (possibly including remote deletion of non-Google e-book apps,
Personally hoping and praying for Logos Bible Software apps on iOS and Android devices, with feature improvement beyond e-book readers. <<amen>>
Do Kindle and Nook allow Apple and Google e-books on their devices? maybe Apple and Google are saying you don't let us play in your pool so you can't play in ours. [and Logos and others are getting burnt in the middle] [Add Kobo to my list (never heard of it) ] [ignore that the others are readers only and Apple and Google are full powered computers]
Digital Reader, Kindle, Kobo, and Nook do not natively allow other e-books apps on their devices, yet some allow web sites: e.g. http://biblia.com
For business $ profit, Amazon (Kindle), Barnes & Noble (Nook), Borders (Kobo), and Sony (Digital Reader) have same primary e-book agent motive for their respective devices as Apple (iOS) and Google (Android). Wonder about Microsoft's e-book agent plans for Windows Phone 7.
Hindsight 20/20: appears Apple waited for competitive e-book devices to flourish worldwide before changing app guidelines (avoids some anti-trust issues).
Still hoping and praying for Logos Bible software apps on iOS and Android devices.
Keep Smiling [:)]
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Couldn't you just do that with "Favorites"?Matthew C Jones said:I am visualizing a directory of a PDF folder with all documents clickable; a PDF sub-section of my library.
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Bob Pritchett said:
We'll be recommending Android devices. :-)
I hope Apple realizes that I only bought an iPhone that I can have Logos on it. If Logos abandons iOS, I will also switch to Android.
Armin
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Wow! Not using or owning iOS products I had never heard about the ebook fiasco. The little I just read it appears Apple is going more Totalitarion than ever. Hopefully it doesn't effect Logos.
Logos 10 - OpenSuse Tumbleweed, Windows 11, Android 16 & Android 14
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Bob,
Thanks and keep it coming[:)]
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Armin said:Bob Pritchett said:
We'll be recommending Android devices. :-)
I hope Apple realizes that I only bought an iPhone that I can have Logos on it. If Logos abandons iOS, I will also switch to Android.
Armin
I too bought an ipad2 just because of Logos. If it stops working, android here I come. Just glad I haven't bought a mac yet, and I was pondering it.
Windows PC - Android Phone - Surface Pro 4
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Thomas Black said:
Couldn't you just do that with "Favorites"?Matthew C Jones said:I am visualizing a directory of a PDF folder with all documents clickable; a PDF sub-section of my library.
And return search results?! [:O]
If that is already possible I am really going to have to ramp up my time in my new Camp Logos Live DVDs. I've waited until Nina finished her Spring semester (this week) and planned on working through the DVD together. There is SO much Logos already does that I keep learning new possibilities from the Wiki & the forums. One time at Camp Logos was wonderful but there is so much more to discover.
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Jacob Hantla
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Jacob Hantla said:
ap·ple
noun /ˈapəl/
apples, plural- The
round fruit of a tree of the rose family, which typically has thin red
or green skin and crisp flesh. Many varieties have been developed as
dessert or cooking fruit or for making cider - American multinational corporation that designs and manufactures consumer electronics, computer software, and commercial servers
- Everything that is wrong with corporate America
"As any translator will attest, a literal translation is no translation at all."
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Paul Golder said:Jacob Hantla said:
ap·ple
noun /ˈapəl/
apples, plural- The
round fruit of a tree of the rose family, which typically has thin red
or green skin and crisp flesh. Many varieties have been developed as
dessert or cooking fruit or for making cider - American multinational corporation that designs and manufactures consumer electronics, computer software, and commercial servers
- Everything that is wrong with corporate America
4. Strives to be innovative and insanely great (copied by many others).
By the way, Apple has discontinued selling dedicated server hardware.
Apologies, disagree with scope of # 3 because many more companies have business profit motives (free enterprise) that provide funny material for various comic strips (e.g. Dilbert).
Back to Logos Development topic:
Thankful for Logos Bible Study with great choice of resources for personal Library. Looking forward to Bible Study improvements including Personal Book Builder (PBB) and Sermon File follow-on plus many more resources (my Community Pricing bids and Pre-publication orders exceed what have already invested in Logos).
Thankful for Logos company communication with customers; appreciate development update and insights.
Keep Smiling [:)]
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Paul Golder said:
Everything that is wrong with corporate America
Hopefully you posted this in jest, unless you fully intend to start a flame war.
Very strange since Inc listed Apple as #5 in its list of the most admired companies in America (that is admired by other corporations). MS did no even make the list.
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Apologies, disagree with scope of # 3 because many more companies have business profit motives (free enterprise) that provide funny material for various comic strips (e.g. Dilbert).
One episode of The Simpsons has Bill Gates (& goon squad) buying out Homer's internet start-up company.
"Oh,
so they have internet on computers now" - HomerIt would not be so funny if there was not at least a public perception of greed & corruption. But how many of us would do our own jobs for free? I am glad to hear Bob say we will have a choice between iOS and Android. I hope it comes soon.
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Jack Caviness said:
Hopefully you posted this in jest...
Just some irony that came from a discussion with an employee at an Apple store. No offense intended.
"As any translator will attest, a literal translation is no translation at all."
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Bob Pritchett said:Greg Masone said:
Hey Bob, any word yet on what Logos will be doing for the iOS apps now that Apple have changed their Ebooks pricing policy?
We'll be recommending Android devices. :-)
Obviously we'll have to comply with Apple's guidelines...and we're still waiting to see how all this shakes out. (Will the Kindle app remain on the iPhone?)
If you have no links within the app to buy ebooks (i.e. you're not selling ebooks within the app) are you in compliance? Or are you forced to offer the ability to buy ebooks within the app at a 30% cut to apple?
Jacob Hantla
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We will have to wait and see how this affect Logos as it's primary function is not an ebook Reader. Would it be so bad if I could purchase another Bible translation in the App? There are many people that have downloaded the free app but do not have a logos 4 base package. My wife is a perfect example. She doesn't want to spend the money for a base package as she wouldn't use most of the books. She uses the Amplified as her primary Bible and would probably use a Strong's and maybe a 1 or 2 commentaries. So if she could purchase the Amplified through the Logos app I'm sure she would. She doesn't use Logos on her computer. I'm sure there are a lot of people out there don't want or wouldn't use many of the features of Logos but would like to have another Bible translation or a book or 2 that logos does have, like E.M Bounds works on prayer. They might purchase them if they could through their iPhone/iPad. I know Apple takes a 30% cut and I'm not sure how much of Logos would be consumed by that but it you look at the potential number of new clients for Logos resources it could turn out positive by adding a large number of new customers.
Logos doesn't make it money off of the software they make their money off of resources and if they had some of the more popular Christian books being published it could grow their base. I know there are several books in the iBook store I would like to get (when I catch up on all my reading) that aren't available in Logos. Logos could make a push to become the Christian eBook Leader. I know there are other Bible Study software applications that also have the apps and some of the books but where is the place to go to get Christian eBooks? Amazon? Barnes & Noble? There really is no defacto christian eBook retailer at this time.
Just my 2 cents
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Jacob Hantla said:
If you have no links within the app to buy ebooks (i.e. you're not selling ebooks within the app) are you in compliance? Or are you forced to offer the ability to buy ebooks within the app at a 30% cut to apple?
I'm a big fan of the products Apple puts out, but in this case I hope they get their behinds handed to them in the courts or in the market place after pulling a stunt like this.
I wonder if Logos would ever be willing to release an iOS app for
jail-broken devices? I'd gladly pay for that app in an effort to give
Apple a piece of my mind!Either way, I'll just have to step up the conversion of my Logos library to PDFs so access to my library isn't blocked at a whim by a ridiculous company.
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Greg Masone said:
Either way, I'll just have to step up the conversion of my Logos library to PDF
FYI...This is a violation of the Logos's EULA. We cannot copy the program or resources with the exception of making backup the program/software. Converting resources to a different format is not considered to be making a backup copy. A backup copy is a copy of the resource in its original format.
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I don't think Apple will require Logos to offer any books but I do think they would require all books offered to be the same price within the store as they are on Logos.com and keep 30% of each sale. In other words Apple will throw their weight around like eBay does. And AT&T, Microsoft, Rupert Murdock, and the parade goes on...............Jacob Hantla said:Or are you forced to offer the ability to buy ebooks within the app at a 30% cut to apple?
In other words, Paul Golder's post was incorrect only in that it was restricted to America's corporate climate. [N] They are all that way.[:(]
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Stephen Weasler said:
We will have to wait and see how this affect Logos as it's primary function is not an ebook Reader. Would it be so bad if I could purchase another Bible translation in the App? There are many people that have downloaded the free app but do not have a logos 4 base package. My wife is a perfect example. She doesn't want to spend the money for a base package as she wouldn't use most of the books. She uses the Amplified as her primary Bible and would probably use a Strong's and maybe a 1 or 2 commentaries. So if she could purchase the Amplified through the Logos app I'm sure she would. She doesn't use Logos on her computer. I'm sure there are a lot of people out there don't want or wouldn't use many of the features of Logos but would like to have another Bible translation or a book or 2 that logos does have, like E.M Bounds works on prayer. They might purchase them if they could through their iPhone/iPad. I know Apple takes a 30% cut and I'm not sure how much of Logos would be consumed by that but it you look at the potential number of new clients for Logos resources it could turn out positive by adding a large number of new customers.
Logos doesn't make it money off of the software they make their money off of resources and if they had some of the more popular Christian books being published it could grow their base. I know there are several books in the iBook store I would like to get (when I catch up on all my reading) that aren't available in Logos. Logos could make a push to become the Christian eBook Leader. I know there are other Bible Study software applications that also have the apps and some of the books but where is the place to go to get Christian eBooks? Amazon? Barnes & Noble? There really is no defacto christian eBook retailer at this time.
Just my 2 cents
Stephen,
I really like your thinking here.
As to your point about Christian eBook leader, you're right that there aren't any. If there's a Christian eBook I can't get from Logos or Olivetree, I'll look for them in the following order: Amazon (the Kindle reader app is the best of its kind IMHO), CBD (their free eBook reader is very basic in functionality, but it works), Google (due to the volume of their library, hoping that they may have a book that others don't carry).
Peter
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I'm hoping Apple does the right thing by its customers here. If the rumors end up being true and come July 1 all ebooks have to go through in-app purchases and 30% to Apple, with no way around that (i.e., ipad safari blocks access to amazon.com and/or the kindle app blocks downloading from non-in-app purchases), and assuming that leads to Amazon and B&N pulling their apps from the store, then the ipad becomes virtually worthless for a large number of Apple's customers. Many (like me) switched to the ipad from the kindle because the ipad serves as a kindle plus a lot more. If you take away the kindle option then it becomes a game-changer. I would sell my ipad on ebay and get an Android tablet right away if that happens. And "antenna-gate" would become silly in comparison to the outcry this would create.
My guess is that ebook apps will be required to sell ebooks at a higher price with 30% going to Apple through in-app purchases, but website purchases for those ereader apps (including through ipad safari) would still be through normal purchasing channels and could still be downloaded to the apps. This will be for a short time until Apple realizes the ridiculousness of the whole thing and makes a change. That or they will back off of this rule altogether.
Hopefully this rant makes sense and I didn't just ramble on too much!
Pastor, seminary trustee, and app developer. Check out my latest app for churches: The Church App
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tom collinge said:
FYI...This is a violation of the Logos's EULA. We cannot copy the program or resources with the exception of making backup the program/software. Converting resources to a different format is not considered to be making a backup copy. A backup copy is a copy of the resource in its original format.
Logos 4 allows us to export resources to PDF up to 100 pages at a time. There isn't a limit that I'm aware of to how many times you can do that to a resource.
That's one way to do it at least. You can search the forums and there are multiple threads explaining how to export entire books to Word or PDF, or how to load them onto one's Kindle.
This is a form of backup anyway. If Logos ever goes bankrupt or pulls a Pradis on us, I'm not losing the $$$ I've invested in these books. One has to rethink the concept of ownership a little differently when all you have to represent your purchase are a few electrons and pixels on a screen.
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