Personal Book Builder

I just downloaded the newest version of Logos (4.3). Has anyone started working on the PBB now that it has been added? I thought it was going to be a purchased add-on. I hope it stays free. I would buy the paid version of it too if it works great.

Post your experience with PBB for Mac OS 10.7 Lion or Snow Leopard here please.

Anyone hear when the sermon file add-on will be out?

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

Has anyone started working on the PBB now that it has been added?

Wiki has => http://wiki.logos.com/Personal_Books

Mac Beta and PC Beta have many forum discussions about PBB usage (and bugs).

Files forum includes Commentary Example for PB

I hope it stays free.

PBB is free => http://community.logos.com/forums/p/36208/271595.aspx#271595 (Logos announcement in PC Beta forum about PBB pricing); reaffirmed in forum discussion => PB vs. Sermon File Addin (likewise looking forward to web site supplement for sermon files)

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Jason Saling

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/274989#Comment_274989

Will Personal Book Builder be able to import PDF files in the future?

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/274995#Comment_274995

Will Personal Book Builder be able to import PDF files in the future?

From all the indications we have seen this is very unlikely.

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/274995#Comment_274995

Will Personal Book Builder be able to import PDF files in the future?

Doubtful. PDF (Portable Document File) is designed to ensure that it looks the same across a variety of platforms (i.e. computer to computer | mac to pc, etc). A word document, however, is designed to manipulate text. Since the PBB needs access to the text (not just an image of the text), PDF's won't work. Sorry! [:(]

John Fallahee

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JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/275051#Comment_275051

John -

Your link is broken or inactive.

James H. Schafer

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/275058#Comment_275058

Has anyone heard whether or not we will be able to import the PBB files from Logos 3? Sure hope that will be a possibility since there are hundred's available there.

John Fallahee

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/275058#Comment_275058

I think I fixed it...weird!

https://www3.gotomeeting.com/register/386489094

Kevin Becker

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/275067#Comment_275067

Has anyone heard whether or not we will be able to import the PBB files from Logos 3? Sure hope that will be a possibility since there are hundred's available there.

Not directly, the source files will need to be saved as docx and have the tagging updated if needed.

DominicM

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/275067#Comment_275067

Has anyone heard whether or not we will be able to import the PBB files from Logos 3? Sure hope that will be a possibility since there are hundred's available there.

Given the enhance features implemented in v4 this would be a disaster and we would be griping very quickly... however, should the origial HTML source used to compile be available, then it should be relatively easy to convert for v4

DominicM

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/275067#Comment_275067

Has anyone heard whether or not we will be able to import the PBB files from Logos 3? Sure hope that will be a possibility since there are hundred's available there.

Bob

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/275073#Comment_275073

Is there any chance that PBB will someday support some other input format - ODF perhaps or even .doc??Since I don't use word PBB is worthless to me.

Kenny Larsen

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/275084#Comment_275084

I don't know for sure but I have heard that Libreoffice can write .docx, maybe worth a look?

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/275009#Comment_275009

I think it might be possible to access the text in a PDF, depending on how it was encoded. The ability to build a book based on a PDF file would be very helpful for those of us who use LaTeX to write and typeset our academic documents. Alternatively, being able to either compile a book from DVI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Device_independent_file_format) or TEX documents directly would also work.

Alternatively, being able to encode a book from an HTML file might also work since you can typeset a TeX document to HTML.

Is anyone else using Logos also use LaTeX? It's typically used by philosophers/philosophers of religion and mathematicians since it has rich support for symbols and formulas. I started using it for philosophy of religion over at Talbot, but found it equally useful for writing my theology and general purpose papers as well.

James H. Schafer

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/275073#Comment_275073

I discovered that I can open a PBB in LDLS3, copy it and then paste into Word, save the file and then Personal Books will open the file and creates the resource in 4.3. Pleasantly surprised that the Scripture links are active and work when moused over.

The only problem with this is it requires a lot of steps. Hopefully, someone will write a file that will do this automatically, especially since there are hundreds of PBB available.

James H. Schafer

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/275120#Comment_275120

Well, FWIW, although the Scripture links work well, the books are not searchable at this point. Not sure what it will take to make them searchable, someone with more experience will have to chime in here.

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/275106#Comment_275106

Alternatively, being able to encode a book from an HTML file might also work since you can typeset a TeX document to HTML.

Option: open HTML, then save as docx (can add desired PBB tagging).

By the way, noticed several web sites offer PDF to DOCX conversion.

Observation: since other formats can be converted to docx, personally prefer Logos support one format for PBB compilation and keep improving Logos 4 Mac feature parity with faster performance (e.g. especially menu appearance on screen) plus adding new Logos features.

Keep Smiling [:)]

Andrew Mackie

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/275297#Comment_275297

There are many resources that authors make freely available as PDFs - books, sermon notes, etc. - PBB should support PDFs so that we can easily import them.

As a workaround, Adobe Reader you can capture the text and you can copy it into a Word document, but this is a hassle to do for many PDFs.

Please support PDF for PBB!

Andrew Mackie

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/275316#Comment_275316

Actually, I'd go further than this - Logos, why don't you make Logos 4 a PDF reader?

Let users point Logos to a directory that contains PDFs that they'd like to access via Logos and import them all automatically (without need to give each of them title and author information). This will allow us a powerful environment in which we can search for a bible passage in Logos, say, and see *all* of the PDFs that refer to that passage. If we then open one of those PDFs within Logos, *then* we can mark it by title and author so it appears as a PBB and in the library.

This will give us more power, greater use of the resources that we already own and minimize the amount of effort to use Logos as our central repository of biblical content (which is what Logos wants, right?).

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/275319#Comment_275319

Let users point Logos to a directory that contains PDFs that they'd like to access via Logos and import them all automatically (without need to give each of them title and author information). This will allow us a powerful environment in which we can search for a bible passage in Logos, say, and see *all* of the PDFs that refer to that passage. If we then open one of those PDFs within Logos, *then* we can mark it by title and author so it appears as a PBB and in the library.

This will give us more power, greater use of the resources that we already own and minimize the amount of effort to use Logos as our central repository of biblical content (which is what Logos wants, right?).

Option: can vote for Logos User Voice suggestion => http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-4/suggestions/1096505-pdf-docx-files?ref=title (currently 32nd ranked with 82 votes).

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Andrew Mackie

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/275329#Comment_275329

Excellent! It has my three votes. Thanks.

An-yu Tsai

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/275023#Comment_275023

There is a good work around if you have Adobe Acrobat (not Acrobat Reader). My Adobe Acrobat which is version 8, can convert to Word *.doc format. I convert this first, open it with my Word 2007, and saved it as *.docx (which is what the Logos book builder required), and then build the book successfully. The build is not perfect, with some wrong margins, but very readable, no text missing, and easier to read than reading it from PDF because of the very neat font, and can bookmark it, make notes on it, scripture popups, etc.

Bob Turner

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/275051#Comment_275051

John - for those of us not able to make that time, will a recording of the webinar be available on your site afterwards?

Bob Rockhill

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/275390#Comment_275390

I just checked and Pages only can save to .doc, not dock. For those of us who don't use Word, I guess we're in a bind here. Would be easier if it were just .doc since so many Mac programs can save to that.

garretwnagle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/275319#Comment_275319

Are there any databases of good quality PBB public domain authors such as Luther, Calvin, etc?

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/275664#Comment_275664

I just checked and Pages only can save to .doc, not dock. For those of us who don't use Word, I guess we're in a bind here. Would be easier if it were just .doc since so many Mac programs can save to that.

Observation: TextEdit can save to docx (included with OS X).. LibreOffice is free for Mac and can save as docx. Also, NeoOffice can write docx.

Keep Smiling [:)]

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/275759#Comment_275759

Observation: TextEdit can save to docx (included with OS X).. LibreOffice is free for Mac and can save as docx. Also, NeoOffice can write docx.

KS4J - Two questions:

1) Do you think TextEdit's ability to save as .docx is new in 10.7? If so, hopefully .docx will be coming to pages soon! (I keep waiting for another update before I purchase it again).

2) Have you tried to save a document as a LibreOffice as .docx? I do not have the program, but I spent some time yesterday looking at their website. The only thing I definitive thing I saw was that it could read these files. I don't want to direct people there if it can't deliver [;)]

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/275787#Comment_275787

1) Do you think TextEdit's ability to save as .docx is new in 10.7?

Snow Leopard (10.6) TextEdit 1.6 can save as docx.

2) Have you tried to save a document as a LibreOffice as .docx?

For grins, copied Philippians 4:4 from Logos 4.3 on Mac with 4 Interlinear lines displayed, then pasted into TextEdit (above) and LibreOffice 3.4.2 (below with Save As choice for docx):

Observation: selecting "sentence" before Philippians 4:4 in Lexham Discourse Greek New Testament changes Logos 4.3 reference to Philippians 4:3-4

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rcdeacon

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/275855#Comment_275855

Just started using the Personal Book feature instead of the notes feature. I am pleasantly surprised at the power and the possibilities of PB.

Michael Kinch

I made a small book with personal book builder. I included a pic that I took by taking a snapshot in a pdf file and pasting it into my Word document. Everything looked fine in the Word document but when I created the book the pic didn't come through. Does anyone know how I can copy a pic etc from a pdf and make it appear in a personal book? Thanks for your help.

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/319071#Comment_319071

Hi Michael - and welcome to the forums

There have been a number of issues in including pictures in Personal Books.

Check that your picture is set to have "In Line" Text Wrapping. For this - and other useful tips about Personal Books - please see http://wiki.logos.com/Personal_Books#Hints_and_Tips (and the complete article).

Hope this helps

Graham