Arcing

The best way to build your search term is to build it in a morph search and then copy and paste your string into a visual filter. The drop down box that helps you build the syntax int eh visual filter is not yet implemented. For instance, to highlight prepositions in the NA27 use @P?, to highlight them in the NKJV, use @P. I used the morph search box to discover the syntax.

It was not a stupid question at all. I'm glad you asked!

There are no dumb questions...only dumb people...

HEY! I resemble that remark!

MJ,

It's not a technical term [:)]. If you have the book "Diagrammatical Analysis" in your library, that should give you a good idea of the type of diagram he's talking about. At least, I'm pretty sure that's a good example of Reed-Kellog stick diagramming. Bob can correct me if I'm wrong.

MJ, as for the latter I'm not sure what name it would get.

 As for the former, the first two symbols would be used for diagramming infinitives in a stick (reed-kellog) type diagram. The rest just look like helpful connecting devices. I've never seen them used formally. The semi-circles (row 3) could be used for arcing, but I can't say that's the intention.

I'm also interesting in Arcing, I haven't tried it yet. I also saw those videos by John Piper saying that he's been using it for decades and it's been an immense help for him. If you've watched his Battling Unbelief videos it appears that he's teaching the scriptures and showing relationships between Scripture that he's learned through using the Arc method. It looks like a very powerful tool for studying Scripture. By they way, the Battling Unbelief series is incredible.

Unless I'm mistaken, arcing isn't the same as sentence diagramming; it is proposition diagramming. It would be so helpful to have both tools available in L4...

I'm just starting to learn arcing. Has anyone set up a visual filter to help aid them with arcing?

I don't think a visual filter will give you what you're asking for. Arcing deals much more with semantics--for example, how is this participle used in this clause. You could set up a visual filter to flag certain constructions you were interested in. Here's one I set up. I played with this a bit, but didn't find that it really helped that much--YMMV.

It would be good to have an arcing correspondence of HDNT.

I also wish that Logos had a built in Arcing plugin or module.

The sentence diagram module can actually be used for arcing (or tracing the argument).  Choose text flow diagram and the passage you wish to arc or trace, then you will be able to break up the propositions and connect them with arcs or brackets.  Labeling the connections requires typing out the appropriate letters and moving them to their designated location.  It really works quite well, though I wish that Logos would include the proposition labels as prefigured options like biblearc.com.  I use it for all of my arcing/tracing.

The sentence diagram module can actually be used for arcing (or tracing the argument).  Choose text flow diagram and the passage you wish to arc or trace, then you will be able to break up the propositions and connect them with arcs or brackets.  Labeling the connections requires typing out the appropriate letters and moving them to their designated location.  It really works quite well, though I wish that Logos would include the proposition labels as prefigured options like biblearc.com.  I use it for all of my arcing/tracing.

 

Sinve I don't recall having heard of this method before (thanks for the link to Schreiner's pdf) and others who know it don't see how the Logos sentence diagramming can be used for it, may I ask you to post a screenshot or two, to show us how it looks? If you don't mind, you can also post a diagram of an "arced" sentence, as others do for the diagrams, to get the feel of it. 

Thanks, Mick 

 

For an explanation of Tracing/Arcing, see John Piper's video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYcsXanMlvM&feature=player_embedded.  Piper also has a free booklet on Tracing/Arcing in PDF format http://cdn.desiringgod.org/pdf/booklets/BTBX.pdf.  The BibleArc website has some helpful tutorial videos and examples http://www.biblearc.com.  With Piper and others, I cannot fully express the value of this method for understanding the biblical text, particularly in epistolary literature.  Thus, this is a method worth learning, and will bear much exegetical fruit.  The method is really best learned by doing.  The very best way to accomplish this, is to Trace/Arc the biblical text and compare your work with others who know the method.  This is where the examples of BibleArc.com come in handy.  After doing this for a time, you will begin to understand the method.

In order to Trace/Arc in Logos, create a new Diagram File:

Choose the Text Flow diagram option and enter in the desired text.  Click insert when done.

Your screen will look like this:

Move the column width to provide room from the brackets.

Move the biblical text to the far right and center the Scripture reference:

Begin to break up the propositions and label each proposition by verse # and then in alphabetical order (to distinguish each proposition of the same verse).

The process continues like this:

And so on......

Until you have broken up all the propositions.  

You then use the brackets (or arcs if you so prefer) to the left to connect the propositions.  In order to extend the bracket lines, you use the line tool (it looks like a slash). You label the propositions by clicking on the capitol T and dragging each label to the bracket face.  The final product looks like this:

I don't really know how to upload my actual files.  If someone could explain how to do this in Mac OSX, I could provide more examples.   

I don't really know how to upload my actual files.  If someone could explain how to do this in Mac OSX, I could provide more examples.   

Great post Si Cochran!

We can't share user-generated file yet, but Logos has said that it's on the planned features list.