Questionable "Bible Study Magazine" Ad

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Jesse Blevins | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 24 2012 6:11 AM

Frankly, I am tired of having to remove it from my cart every time that I make a purchase. 

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Paul Golder | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 24 2012 6:17 AM

I subscribe, and I pay for a gift subscription as well. Coming from Logos, I've always had a feeling of "trust" in the magazine, and while I don't agree completely with all that is written, I've always felt that the editorial staff held to a Biblical worldview.

But if the advertising policy is one of "anything goes" (from what I read in John's words), I'm afraid it may not be the magazine I thought it was...Sad

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 24 2012 6:21 AM

Pastor Jesse Blevins:
Frankly, I am tired of having to remove it from my cart every time that I make a purchase. 

I think you will find that it doesn't go into your cart unless you add it. It appears as something that you can "add to cart" when you check out, but you can safely ignore it. See screen shot below.

 

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Jesse Blevins | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 24 2012 7:05 AM

I should not have to ignore it. I am sick of seeing it.  It is an annoying marketing scheme in my humble opinion. 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 24 2012 7:21 AM

Pastor Jesse Blevins:
I should not have to ignore it. I am sick of seeing it.  It is an annoying marketing scheme in my humble opinion.

That may be the case. I was just pointing out that if you don't click the "add to cart" button, you won't have to delete it (hence ignore it).

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John D. Barry | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 24 2012 7:36 AM

John D. Barry:

As far as our ad review process goes, it's probably best described as: "We don't agree with everything advertised in Bible Study Magazine." However, I don't let my views stand in the way of someone that wants to advertise their product--unless I, or our team, deems an ad to have the type of problems Rosie described.

I should add that the qualifications MJ Smith mentioned also apply to our ad review process; I meant to note that in my earlier post.

MJ. Smith:

As long as the advertizement relates to Bible study and is not slanderous, libelous or otherwise outside the norms of good taste, I would expect Logos to accept the ad.

Thanks again for all of your feedback.

 

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Jesse Blevins | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 24 2012 7:49 AM

Alabama

If I am not mistaken, others could probably remember better than I, the magazine was automatically added to the cart at check when it was first released. 

Barry

Among both Protestant and Catholic circles the churchthat posted the add is classified as a cult.

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Room4more | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 24 2012 8:03 AM

John,

This is getting interesting, could you post a screen shot of this so-called ‘questionable’ add. I am not a subscriber to the mag, but would still like to see this add. that is if it dosn't violate any copyright issues....

Thanks.

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John D. Barry | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 24 2012 8:20 AM

I greatly appreciate the debate about this topic, but this isn't the best place for it, since that's not the intent of the Logos forums. Please feel free to email me directly at john@biblestudymagazine.com.

A quick reminder about our forum guidelines for these types of discussions: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/10072.aspx

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 24 2012 8:38 AM

Where's 'Sam' when we need him?


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David Carter | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 24 2012 8:41 AM

DMB:

Where's 'Sam' when we need him?

Silent Zip it!

 

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Ron | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 24 2012 8:57 AM

MJ. Smith:
the Judo-Christian tradition

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 24 2012 9:33 AM

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 24 2012 9:53 AM

There are many (yes, many) Logos software users who study the Bible and have not come to the same conclusions "everyone else" has come to. If the "majority" of Logos users are "correct" in their conclusions on what the Bible says and means, we, the "majority," should not attempt to stop those "erroneous minorities" from using Logos Bible software for deeper studies. 

The ad in question is certainly not the only occasion of possible disagreement that has been published in Bible Study Magazine. So long as the ads and articles address Bible study nothing seems out of place.

just my 2 cents 

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Paul Golder | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 24 2012 10:58 AM

Super Tramp:
So long as the ads and articles address Bible study nothing seems out of place.

Logic then dictates that The Watchtower Society should be allowed to buy an ad showing that the Bible cannot possibly be interpreted without their guidance.

As well, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints should be allowed to run an ad that shows that our Bible is incomplete without the other testament of Jesus Christ.

Doesn't it?

 

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 24 2012 11:06 AM

We struggled with this same issue in building a site to encourage our visitors to attend one of our churches here on Sunday. Our pastor's suggested guidance was any group that viewed the Bible as intact (e.g. no cutting / pasting; not referring to how the words were translated/interpreted etc). That worked pretty well. Even the most conservative of our churches was comfortable with that and participated.


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John D. Barry | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 24 2012 11:16 AM

We've said no to ads before on the basis of the criteria I articulated above. Thanks for the further questions and allowing me to clarify.

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Bill Coley | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 24 2012 11:27 AM

It's a magazine ad, not a contagious disease!!

In the opinion of at least some readers, every issue ever printed of every magazine open to advertising has contained marketing material of questionable content and, likely, intent. In our utopian visions of a principled marketplace, we expect advertisers to uphold the highest standards of truth-telling; but our expectations are naive. Advertising exists to create customers, not to win good citizenship awards. Need additional incentive to lose your naivete? Consider the current political season, in which every new slew of ads creates overtime work for fact checking organizations.

If you don't like the Bible advertised in Bible Study Magazine, then don't buy that Bible. And as you refuse to buy that Bible, remember that someone somewhere is likely responding with similar disdain to an ad pushing your favorite translation.

Blessings,

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Josh | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 24 2012 12:00 PM

John D. Barry:

John D. Barry:

As far as our ad review process goes, it's probably best described as: "We don't agree with everything advertised in Bible Study Magazine." However, I don't let my views stand in the way of someone that wants to advertise their product--unless I, or our team, deems an ad to have the type of problems Rosie described.

I should add that the qualifications MJ Smith mentioned also apply to our ad review process; I meant to note that in my earlier post.

MJ. Smith:

As long as the advertizement relates to Bible study and is not slanderous, libelous or otherwise outside the norms of good taste, I would expect Logos to accept the ad.

Thanks again for all of your feedback.

 

So, John...does this mean that Logos thought it was in "good taste" to run an ad that states our modern Bibles are unreliable and that these same bibles have their books arranged in a non-inspired blasphemous way?

 

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Frank Sauer | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 24 2012 12:01 PM

John D. Barry:

I greatly appreciate the debate about this topic, but this isn't the best place for it, since that's not the intent of the Logos forums. Please feel free to email me directly at john@biblestudymagazine.com.

A quick reminder about our forum guidelines for these types of discussions: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/10072.aspx

 

Not the intent of Logos forums leaves me a bit puzzled. Is that in regard to item 2 and not getting into controversial topics? I ask because clearly it fits the intent of item 1 discussion of Logos products. IMHO this is exactly the place for this discussion as it allows those who may subscribe information on something they may not choose to purchase.

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