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Brian John Wilson | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Oct 23 2012 6:12 PM

Is anyone else out there frustrated with the page turning on logos for iPad?

i think it is the only app I have which does have scrolling and almost every time I tap to turn I end up with a split page :(

no very happy!

brian

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 23 2012 6:39 PM

Hey Brian! Welcome to the forums. Sorry you are having troubles. 

Brian John Wilson:
Is anyone else out there frustrated with the page turning on logos for iPad?

I agree it can be irritating at times. 

Brian John Wilson:
i think it is the only app I have which does have scrolling

I am curious about which (reading) apps you have which do have scrolling? Until today, the two major readers (Kindle & iBooks) didn't have this functionality. Apple added a scrolling feature to iBooks just today (in version 3). Kindle does not have this feature.

Brian John Wilson:
almost every time I tap to turn I end up with a split page

The reason this is happening is because you are "tapping" in the bottom right hand corner. There are two changes you can make to fix this: If you prefer to "tap," make sure you tap up higher. You can "tap" anywhere on the right or left side for about an inch from the edge of the screen. Perhaps a better method: instead of "tapping," simply swipe your finger across the screen from right to left (or vice versa to go back). Wink 

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Brian John Wilson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 23 2012 7:20 PM

My favourite scrolling book is You Version. It flows so smoothly.

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Brian John Wilson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 23 2012 7:25 PM

Yea i get all that re the tapping but i find tapping anywhere on the edge of the right of the page gives me the double pages. 

I just much prefer scrolling.... however, this is not my world and i am not God, so i will have to live with it. 

Still love the app.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 23 2012 7:45 PM

Brian John Wilson:
i find tapping anywhere on the edge of the right of the page gives me the double pages.

I'm sorry, but I can't duplicate that. I did hand my iPad to my wife to experiment a bit. The first couple of times she tried to turn the page, she had the same thing happen to her that you did… although she was doing a chevron swipe from the lower right. Just to double check… you are talking about the Logos mobile app (rather than the Faithlife app), right?

If you wanted to create a split screen purposefully, do you know how? If you notice, in the bottom right (or top right if you have moved it already), there is a slider. If you push and drag that slider, you can create a split screen in different proportions. If you tap it, two equal sized panels will appear.

Did you try the swipe motion? You can swipe anywhere, but it is best to avoid areas where other interface buttons might be (such as the bottom right).

Brian John Wilson:
I just much prefer scrolling

You are not the first to suggest this… you are in good company. Smile

FWIW – I had not used the YouVersion app in a while so I just downloaded it. It does scroll nicely as you said… however, unless I am missing something, it only scrolls one Bible chapter at a time. You still have to turn the pages when you get to the next chapter. Wink

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Randy W. Sims | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 23 2012 8:20 PM

Scrolling doesn't really work as well in practice on touch devices. I've had the experience in some apps where, trying to select an item in a list, I accidently did a tiny flick that scrolled many pages from where I was. And it's a pain to find a certain spot while scrolling a long document. Logos / Kindle / Google style paging gives better control most of the time after you get used to it; selecting text across pages is the biggest problem. (I really like the page turning animation Google Books uses.) YouVersion found a fairly nice middle ground: page between sections, and scroll within sections.

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Brian John Wilson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 23 2012 11:30 PM

Thanks for your thought everyone!

i guess I just need to practice staying away from the righthand edge when I touch or learn to swipe! 

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 23 2012 11:51 PM

alabama24:

Brian John Wilson:
i find tapping anywhere on the edge of the right of the page gives me the double pages.

I'm sorry, but I can't duplicate that. I did hand my iPad to my wife to experiment a bit. The first couple of times she tried to turn the page, she had the same thing happen to her that you did… although she was doing a chevron swipe from the lower right. Just to double check… you are talking about the Logos mobile app (rather than the Faithlife app), right?

I get the "tap on the right-hand side and get a split screen" quite a lot.

It is as though there is a thin slice up the right-hand edge which if you tap results in a split-screen, then a thin slice just to the left of it which if you tap moves on to the next page.

I had assumed this was deliberate as it produces a very clean 50:50 split screen effect when you tap on the far right.

This is in the Bible app on an iPad 2.

Graham

 

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Jacob Hantla | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 24 2012 12:32 AM

Brian John Wilson:

Is anyone else out there frustrated with the page turning on logos for iPad?

i think it is the only app I have which does have scrolling and almost every time I tap to turn I end up with a split page :(

no very happy!

brian

I have heard from Logos that they are aware of this and would like to add an ability to scroll in future updates. I often get annoyed with split pages, but it is the same way with my Kindle app too

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 24 2012 3:55 AM

Graham Criddle:
I get the "tap on the right-hand side and get a split screen" quite a lot.

Wow. I'll have to goof of with it later today. If it has ever happened to me, I am not aware of it. I wonder if there is a difference in hardware (i have the original iPad). 

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Philana Crouch | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 24 2012 6:22 AM

To be honest I never thought I would want a scrolling option...until today that is. I have been experimenting with iBooks 3.0 specifically the scroll theme used in conjunction with the new copy feature. The scrolling makes it a lot easier. Also when I paste a quote it gives the source as well. Very helpful. For my non-religious books (i.e. secular history books) I can't get in Logos, I might start preferring iBooks to Kindle. Of course my first choice in ebooks is Logos & Vyrso.

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Benjamin Ho | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 25 2012 5:35 AM

Yes for scrolling!

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Jerry M | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 25 2012 5:57 AM

If I may state the obvious, simply put the resource you are reading on the right side of the split screen and move the left panel off of the screen to the left.  Now it is impossible to acquire a split screen by advancing pages.

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Kevin Maples | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 25 2012 11:22 AM

My frustration is with highlighting text. If it flows onto the next page I don't know of any way to highlight it other than to change the font size so that it is on the same page and then highlight it. If the text would scroll, this would not be an issue. Otherwise, I prefer page turns to scrolling. Is it possible to have both features? 

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Andy | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 25 2012 11:34 AM

Kevin Maples:
If it flows onto the next page I don't know of any way to highlight it other than to change the font size so that it is on the same page and then highlight it.

I agree that this is a limitation, particularly on the iPhone where the real estate is limited. Sometimes switching the orientation of the device reveals more text (as an alternative to resizing the text). Notwithstanding this, I agree with your observation and would welcome the option to scroll.

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PL | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 25 2012 1:29 PM

Apple's iBooks has just added the Scrolling option. Hopefully that's a trend that others (Kindle, Logos) will follow.

Other than highlighting inconveniences, my biggest complaint with the page turn is that the syncing between the two panes is erratic and unpredictable (e.g. Lexham English Bible on top, Faithlife Study Bible on bottom, iPad in landscape mode).  With syncing turned on, it's sometimes almost impossible to have the Bible text and the study Bible notes sync'ed to just the right positions that you need to read.  This becomes such a distraction sometimes that I just turn off the syncing between the two window panes.

I hope Logos will do something to improve this syncing algorithm.

Thanks,

Peter

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Brian John Wilson | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 25 2012 2:54 PM

Great response, works like treat! Thanks Jerry

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