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Christian Locatell | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 2 2014 10:35 AM

Yes, this is a great resource that I would also love to see in Logos. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. I'm going to try to hit this product hard with some promotion through the Reformed channels (email, Facebook, Twitter, etc.). Hopefully that will push it closer to production.

Something you could do to help is to like and invite your friends to like the Logos Reformed Facebook page to help spread the word. You can also follow us on twitter and retweet promos for resources like John Gill's works.

Thanks again,


Reformed Product Manager

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Brett Avants | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 16 2014 12:55 PM

Placed my bid.  This would be an awesome resource. 

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Mark Ziebold | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 19 2014 8:56 PM

An excellent article about Dr. Gill by someone else who should have their works in Logos (George Ella).

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Mark Ziebold | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 22 2014 6:58 AM

The Preface from The Cause of God and Truth:  

It should be known by the reader, that the following work was
undertaken and begun about the year 1733 or 1734, at which time 

Dr. Whitby's Discourse on the Five Points was reprinting, judged 

to be a masterpiece on the subject, in the English tongue, and
accounted an unanswerable one ; and it was almost in the mouth
of every one, as an objection to the Calvinists, Why do not ye
answer Dr. Wliitby ? Induced hereby, I determined to give it
another reading, and found myself inclined to answer it, and
thought this was a very proper and seasonable time to engage in
such a work.
In the year 1735, the First Part of this work was published, in
which are considered the several passages of Scripture made use
of by Dr. Whitby and others in favour of the Universal Scheme,
and against the Calvinistical Scheme, in which their arguments
and objections are answered, and the several passages set in a
just and proper light. These, and what are contained in the
following Part in favour of the Particular Scheme, are extracted
from Sermons delivered in a Wednesday evening's lecture.
The Second Part was published in the year 1736, in which the
several passages of Scripture in favour of special and
distinguishing grace, and the arguments from them, are
vindicated from the exceptions of the Arminiani, and particularly
from Dr. Whitby, and a reply made to answers and objections to
The Third Part was published in 1737, and is a confutation of the
arguments from reason used by the Arminians, and particularly by
Dr. Whitby, against the above doctrines ; and a vindication of
such as proceed on rational accounts in favour of them, in which it

appears that they are no more disagreeable to right reason than
to divine revelation ; to the latter of which the greatest deference
should be paid, though the Rationalists of our age too much
neglect it, and have almost quitted it ; but to the law and to the
testimony, if they speak not according to this word'it is because
there is no light in them.
In this part of the work is considered the agreement of the
sentiments of Mr. Hobbes and the Stoic philosophers with those
of the Calvinists, in which the difference between them is
observed, and the calumny removed ; to which is added, a
Defence of the'Objections to the Universal Scheme, taken from
the prescience and the providence of God, and the case of the
The Fourth Part was published m 1738, in which the sense of the
ancient writers of the Christian Church, before the times of Austin,
is given ; the importance and consequence of which is shown,
and that the Arminians have very little reason to triumph on that
This work was published at a time when the nation was greatly
alarmed with the growth of Popery, and several learned
gentlemen were employed in preaching against some particular
points of it ; but the author of this work was of opinion, that the
increase of Popery was greatly owing to the Pelagianism,
Arminianism, and other supposed rational schemes men run into,
contrary to divine revelation, This was the sense of our fathers in
the last century, and therefore joined these and Popery together
in their religious grievances they were desirous of having
redressed ; and indeed, instead of lopping off the branches of
Popery, the axe should be laid to the root of the tree, Arminianism
and Pelagianism, the very ufe and soul of Popery.

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Mark Ziebold | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 22 2014 6:58 AM

Here is a free PDF online of The Cause of God and Truth.  Praying for Dr. Gill's works to make it into Logos soon!

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Mark Ziebold | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 14 2014 2:22 PM

Bump!  Time to start pushing John Gill Again!

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Evan Boardman | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 14 2014 2:47 PM

The other base packages are making books to be published, I would like to see the Reformed Base Package put Gill into production.

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 14 2014 5:31 PM

Evan Boardman:

The other base packages are making books to be published, I would like to see the Reformed Base Package put Gill into production.

Doesn't help unless they are included in the packages. Gill's Commentary, Speaker's Commentary really should have been included in base packages (reform and Anglican respectively).


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Mark Ziebold | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 14 2014 7:15 PM

There is always room for reformed portfolio!

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Evan Boardman | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 15 2014 12:39 AM

Maybe Logo's would put Gill in the Baptist's Base Package?

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Mark Ziebold | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 2 2014 7:19 PM

Bump for Gill............Someone has to take up the marketing cause!

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Andy | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 3 2014 1:17 AM

Mark Ziebold:

There is always room for reformed portfolio!

Absolutely. But please, not for a good few months. I am not sure my wallet could stand it Tongue Tied.

Big Smile

And, while I am here, bump for Gill!

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Mark Ziebold | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 11 2014 10:58 PM

Monthly bump for Gill.  

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Mark Ziebold | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 11 2014 11:00 PM


Do you know if the new pricing/cost estimate that Gabe referred to was ever run on this resource?  Please advise when you are able.


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Christian Locatell | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 12 2014 5:40 PM

Yes, it took some work, but after digging for better materials and working out some issues, we did get a more precise estimate.

Unfortunately, the new estimate is higher than we originally thought. Sorry, I guess that plan backfired. :(

Let's just keep spreading the word and hopefully it will go into production sooner rather than later. Thanks for keeping the dream alive!

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 12 2014 7:17 PM

Christian Locatell:

Unfortunately, the new estimate is higher than we originally thought. Sorry, I guess that plan backfired. :(

Let's just keep spreading the word and hopefully it will go into production sooner rather than later. Thanks for keeping the dream alive!

Up your bids, everyone!   John Gill

Logos 7 Collectors Edition

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Mark Ziebold | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 12 2014 8:33 PM

Doh!  I guess sometimes it is better to leave well enough alone Surprise

Will keep bumping Monthly and it may help to pull great passages from his commentary and show the depth of exegesis that everyone is missing by not having this resource.  

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 13 2014 7:29 AM

I have been in since 2013, and in at 40 or 50$ iirc.

L2 lvl4 (...) WORDsearch, L9

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Matt Hamrick | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 13 2014 5:55 PM

I've been waiting patiently since November 8, 2010 for this. It will come eventually I hope.

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Mark Ziebold | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 23 2014 9:06 PM

From the Baptist Encyclopaedia that was just released:

Gill, John, D.D., was born at Kettering, Northamptonshire, England, Nov. 23, 1697. His father, Edward Gill, was a Baptist in the membership of a union church composed of Presbyterians, Congregationalists, and Baptists, in which, beside a Pedobaptist pastor, Mr. William Wallis, a Baptist was a teaching elder, with authority to immerse adults. As Isaac Backus found this system a cause of controversy and strife in New England, so it proved in Kettering, and Edward Gill, William Wallis, and their friends found it necessary to withdraw and form a Particular Baptist church. Edward Gill was elected one of the deacons. To the end of his life he obtained a good report for “grace, piety, and holy conversation.”
His son John early showed uncommon talents, and quickly surpassed those of his own age, and many much older, in acquiring knowledge. Before he was eleven years of age, under the instruction of an Episcopal clergyman, who had charge of the grammar-school of which he was a pupil, he had read the principal Latin classics, and had made such progress in Greek that he became an object of wonder and admiration to several ministers who were familiar with his attainments. The bookseller’s shop in the town was only open on the market-day, and by the favor of the proprietor John Gill was continually found there on that day consulting various authors. This remarkable studiousness attended him throughout life. His teacher commenced the practice of requiring the children of Dissenters to attend prayers in the Episcopal church on week-days along with the youths that belonged to the Church of England. The law probably gave him authority to exhibit his mean bigotry in this way. But Dissenting parents properly resented this pious effort of the clerical teacher, and withdrew their children from his care. Deprived of an instructor, he studied with even increased industry, and soon became a proficient in logic, rhetoric, natural and moral philosophy, and Latin, Greek, and Hebrew. In Latin he read the hoarded treasures of ancient and modern divinity until he was conversant with all the great writers of Western Christendom.


When he was about twelve years of age, a sermon preached by Mr. Wallis, his father’s pastor, on the words, “And the Lord God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?” made a solemn impression upon his mind; his sins and the wrath of God alarmed him; and for some time he was in the deepest distress. But the Saviour drew near and showed him his wounds and dying throes, and everlasting love, and by grace he was enabled to trust him, and to find liberty and justification. On the 1st of November, 1716, he was baptized in a neighboring river, and received into the fellowship of the church of Kettering.
Almost immediately after, by the advice of friends, he began to preach, first at Higham Ferrers, and afterwards at Kettering. The Lord blessed these ministrations to the conversion of a considerable number of persons, and high hopes were cherished about the future usefulness of Mr. Gill.
He was elected pastor of the church at Horsleydown, South wark, London, and ordained to the gospel ministry in its meeting-house March 22, 1720. Of this church the celebrated Benjamin Keach had been pastor, whose son Elias founded the oldest church now existing in Pennsylvania, the mother of all the Baptist churches in Philadelphia. Difficulties which met him on entering upon his pastoral life in London soon disappeared, his meeting-house was thronged with people, conversions were numerous, and for over fifty-one years he was a power in London, and a religious authority all over Great Britain and America.
In comparatively early life he began to collect Hebrew works, the two Talmuds, the Targums, and everything bearing on the Old Testament and its times, and it is within bounds to say that no man in the eighteenth century was as well versed in the literature and customs of the ancient Jews as John Gill. He has sometimes been called the Dr. John Lightfoot of the Baptists. This compliment, in the estimation of some persons, flatters Dr. Lightfoot more than Dr. Gill, great an authority as Dr. Lightfoot undoubtedly was on all questions of Hebrew learning. In 1748, Dr. Gill received his diploma of Doctor of Divinity from Aberdeen, in which his attainments are described “as extraordinary proficiency in sacred literature, the Oriental tongues, and Jewish antiquities.”
His “Dissertation Concerning the Antiquity of the Hebrew Language, Letters, Vowel Points, and Accents,” has been described as “a masterly effort, of profound research, which would have shown Dr. Gill to have been a prodigy of reading and literature had he never published a syllable on any other subject.”
His “Body of Divinity,” published in 1769, is a work without which no theological library is complete. His grand old doctrines of grace, taken unadulterated from the Divine fountain, presented in the phraseology and with the illustrations of an intellectual giant, and commended by a wealth of sanctified Biblical learning only once in several ages permitted to mortals, sweep all opposition before them, and leave no place for the blighted harvests, the seed of which was planted by James Arminius in modern times. In this work eternal and personal election to a holy life, particular redemption from all guilt, resistless grace in regeneration, final preservation from sin and the Wicked one, till the believer enters paradise, and the other doctrines of the Christian system, are expounded and defended by one of the greatest teachers in Israel ever called to the work of instruction by the Spirit of Jehovah.
Dr. Gill’s commentary is the most valuable exposition of the Old and New Testaments ever published. In codices of the Scriptures, recently discovered, there are some more authoritative readings than those known in Gill’s day; and light has been cast upon the inspired records by explorations in the East, lately undertaken, and still in progress. But except in these features, Gill’s commentary has the largest amount of valuable information ever presented to Christians, in the form of “Annotations on the Bible.” The work was republished in Philadelphia by a Presbyterian elder in 1811; and in Ireland by an Episcopal clergyman some years ago. His other writings are numerous and of great merit. His works are still in demand at large prices on both sides of the Atlantic.
He was among the first contributors to Rhode Island College, now Brown University; and in his will he bequeathed a complete set of his works and fifty-two folio volumes of the fathers to that institution. Dr. Manning stated at the time that “this was by far the greatest donation the little library of the college had as yet received.” The works are still in the library at Providence.
Dr. Gill died in possession of perfect consciousness, and in the full enjoyment of the Saviour’s love, Oct. 14, 1771. His death occasioned great sorrow, especially among the friends of truth throughout this country and Great Britain, and many funeral sermons were preached to commemorate his great worth.
Dr. Gill was of middle stature, neither tall nor short, he was well proportioned, a little inclined to corpulency, his countenance was fresh and healthful, and he enjoyed a serene cheerfulness which continued with him almost to the last.
He was one of the purest men that ever lived; the sovereign grace for which he so nobly waged war was his own refuge and strength, and it gave him a life-long victory over all outward and internal evils.
He was a man of great humility, though flattered by large numbers. He could honestly say, “By the grace of God I am what I am;” he felt the truth of this apostolic experience, and glorified sovereign grace.
He knew more of the Bible than any one with whose writings we are acquainted. “Dr. Gill,” says John Ryland, “leads into an ocean of divinity by a system of doctrinal and practical religion, and by a judicious and learned exposition of the Old and New Testaments.”
The profound and pious Episcopalian, Toplady, who was frequently at a week-night lecture of Dr. Gill’s, the author of the hymn,—

“Rock of Ages, shelter me,
Let me hide myself in thee.”

says of the doctor, “So far as the doctrines of the gospel are concerned, Gill never besieged an error which he did not force from its strongholds; nor did he ever encounter an adversary to truth whom he did not baffle and subdue. His doctrinal and practical writings will live and be admired, and be a standing blessing to posterity, when their opposers are forgotten, or only remembered by the refutations he has given them. While true religion and sound learning have a single friend remaining in the British Empire, the works and name of Gill will be Precious and revered.”

Cathcart, W. (Ed.). (1881). In The Baptist Encyclopædia. Philadelphia: Louis H. Everts.

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