Resizing Lyrics

I am having an issue trying to resize Lyrics within Proclaim. After adding the song to the service portion, I click on "Customize" and try to up the font size. However, the font size stays the same no matter how high the font size says it is. The only way to actually change the font size is to physically change the number of words on a line in the lyrics by hitting enter to split longer lines. However, this gets to be a pain when editing 8 songs each service for 2 services. Is there a way around this? You would think there would be some type of word wrap option that would override this and as you increased the font size would automatically move the lyrics down to the next line. Can anybody help me with this?

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Spencer McKimson

Hello Brandon,

There is no word wrap option at this point for slides. If you would like larger text when there are long lines of words, I would suggest making the text box larger to accommodate for larger text. The reason the font stays the same size is because there is no room for that size of text in the text box w/o ruining the aesthetics of the slide.

Brandon Richards

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/561251#Comment_561251

Hi Spencer,

Thanks for the quick reply! The problem is that the text box is already as wide as the entire slide. So, there is no way to make it bigger. Isn't this something that Proclaim can change? I have read a lot of posts on different website and this is one problem that MANY people are running into. I would think just setting the lyrics to wrap to the next line as the font size got bigger would solve the problem. Then, the user could break the lines into seperate slides as they needed. Last Sunday it took me an hour and a half just to simply break up the lines of the lyrics and then customize the slides by upping the font size and bolding the text. That doesn't even include the amount of time it took me to actually create the presentation.

Bob Pritchett

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/561256#Comment_561256

I was involved in the early decision to not word-wrap lyrics. I'm sorry to hear it's causing frustration for you, and would like to understand the problem better. Would you mind telling me the group name for your presentations? I could use an internal tool to bring up your last service and look at the slides.

The original thinking was the it is always desirable to have each line of a song on a single line, and not to have random/unpredictable wrapping. I was always annoyed to see slides like:

Amazing Grace, how sweet the
sound,
That saved a wretch like me.
I once was lost but now am found,
Was blind, but now I see.

The user is then forced into trying to check every slide, change font sizes, etc.

We wanted Proclaim to look good out of the box, and to work with minimal customization of each slide. (That's why the Smart Media comes with rectangles set, fonts and color chosen, etc.)

When you have a hymn like:

All hail the power of Jesus’ name! Let angels prostrate fall;
Bring forth the royal diadem, and crown Him Lord of all.
Bring forth the royal diadem, and crown Him Lord of all.

and it's just too much to fit, word wrapping might do this:

All hail the power of Jesus’ name! Let angels
prostrate fall;
Bring forth the royal diadem, and crown Him
Lord of all.
Bring forth the royal diadem, and crown Him
Lord of all.

which I think is undesirable; so we still just always keep one line on one line (in songs -- we wrap in sermon notes, etc.). The idea is that if this made the text too small, you could quickly insert newlines and get a more desirable arrangement:

All hail the power of Jesus’ name!
Let angels prostrate fall;
Bring forth the royal diadem,
and crown Him Lord of all.
Bring forth the royal diadem,
and crown Him Lord of all.

And then this edited version would automatically be saved to your "My Songs", so you'd never have to do it again.

Can you tell me more about your scenario, or point me to your presentation? Thanks!

-- Bob

Mike Binks

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/561378#Comment_561378

Bob,

I am 100% behind your planning scenario for Proclaim which I think actually saves time with hymn lines.

It does eliminate those awful text breaks, which can sometimes throw the whole thought of the song out of kilter.

I always had to check through songs for awkward breaks in the line and then had to go and correct them. With the current arrangement if I miss a line and the text is made smaller it is rarely a disaster.

I think the change of ethos wrinkles with some moving from other software. I predict that just as those moving from windows to osx find the initial change annoying after a few weeks they would not go back – so it will be with moving from other presentation software to Proclaim.

One thing that I do find is that there is little appreciation of just how small text can be a and still be legible - bolding text does not increase legibility rather the reverse.

Brandon Richards

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/561378#Comment_561378

Hi Bob! Thanks for replying! Any help or advice you can give me would be great. Our group name is "Fellowship First Baptist Church Music Department", and we are out of High Ridge, MO. Overall, we absolutely love Proclaim and the features the program offers. However, we are finding that this one drawback is taking all the extra time that Proclaim is supposed to be saving us.

Overall, I do think that verses of a song should stay on a single line together. However, I think that is more possible when you have a 16:9 screen. For churches who have 4:30 screens, this is near impossible. The only way for us to get the lyrics big enough so that people in the back of the church and older people can see them, is to go through every song and manually break up the lines of the song. The problem is, by doing so, we are only able to fit 2-3 words on a line so that we can make them big enough.

If nothing else, it would be useful if maybe there was a word wrap setting that users could turn on or off based on their screen size or preference.

Like I said, overall we love the Proclaim software. However, we are finding that editing lyrics every week is just taking us too much time and if we can't find a workaround for it, we might be forced to change our presentation software.

Thanks again Bob, and if you need any more information, please do not hesitate to let me know.

--Brandon Richards