Reading Books Offline
Apple has approved version 1.2, which supports limited offline reading. For some reason they've done this while we're not at work... so, I'll work on a better tutorial tomorrow morning. Till then, here is the quick "my wife is waiting on me to start the movie" version:
First, make sure you're connected to the internet via wifi or your carrier.
Second, open your library.
Third, click on the blue arrow next to the title you want to read offline.
Fourth, click the "Available Offline" option to on.
Fifth, Click "done"
Sixth, You should see an orange arrow indicating that Logos is downloading the resource.
Once the resource is completely downloaded, it will give you a confirmation message.
After the book is completely downloaded, it will be viewable in your library offline
Like I said, this is just a quick demo of how to get your books onto your iPod or iPhone for offline viewing. I'll try to get a better demo up tomorrow.
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This is weird, I just checked for app updates on both iphone and ipod touch; as well as itunes. And all my apps are up to date...no Logos app update available.
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Wonder if Apple pulled it for whatever reason.
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Anthony Etienne said:
This is weird, I just checked for app updates on both iphone and ipod touch; as well as itunes. And all my apps are up to date...no Logos app update available.
I checked on my iPhone as soon as I saw Bob announce it. Didn't show an update, but store showed 1.2 as current version. About 3 minutes later it was there. Might just take time to have the update show in iTunes or iPhone...
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Hi Ryan,
Ryan Burns said:Apple has approved version 1.2, which supports limited offline reading
Can you quantify what limited means? Some of the books I really want to read offline don't have that option available while others offer the option. Is this a licensing issue or a temporary software limitation or both?
Linden
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Anthony,
Anthony Etienne said:And all my apps are up to date..
I've seen apps take a while to propagate to various areas of the world. I wonder if Apple has staged roll outs in the US also to ease the burden on their servers?
Linden
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Linden said:
Hi Ryan,
Can you quantify what limited means? Some of the books I really want to read offline don't have that option available while others offer the option. Is this a licensing issue or a temporary software limitation or both?
I used the term "limited" because you have to manually choose what titles you want to have access to offline. Also, I'm not sure all the offline functionality you'll have offline.
As for certain titles not being available with the offline toggle, I'm not aware of that. What are some titles you don't have the option for?
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Ryan Burns said:
As for certain titles not being available with the offline toggle, I'm not aware of that. What are some titles you don't have the option for?
HCSB doesn't give me the option for offline usage. Ditto for the NLT, NASB. ESV works though.
Linden
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Linden said:
Anthony,
Anthony Etienne said:And all my apps are up to date..
I've seen apps take a while to propagate to various areas of the world. I wonder if Apple has staged roll outs in the US also to ease the burden on their servers?
Linden,
I think you are right; if others have it, then I should be seeing it soon enough.
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Linden said:
HCSB doesn't give me the option for offline usage. Ditto for the NLT, NASB. ESV works though.
I'll check with our Publisher Relations and Development teams tomorrow and let you know what I find out.
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Ryan Burns said:Linden said:
HCSB doesn't give me the option for offline usage. Ditto for the NLT, NASB. ESV works though.
I'll check with our Publisher Relations and Development teams tomorrow and let you know what I find out.
It seems that you can add the NKJV, GW to that list as well. The ESV appears to be the only bible based resource that I can download, I'm having good success with none bible based resources, so far. The available offline icon is there on the versions that can't be downloaded, but they are greyed out. I tried these on 3G only and wifi, same results. Also on the Amplified Bible the icon works, and says it is downloading, but after a while get a message saying that it can't download.
Anyway I like what I see so far, I'm sure the problems related to the bible resouces mentioned will be iron out in due time.
Thanks Logos!! [:D] this is cool [H]
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Linden said:
Can you quantify what limited means?
You can read and navigate books in offline mode, but you can't search them or access them in reports like the Passage Guide, Bible Word Study, and Text Comparison.
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Okay, downloaded the new app, set my Systematic Theology to be available offline. I now have no books in my library, when I search, I get no results, in my reading menu there are no recent books, and my library seems empty. Hoping there is an easy fix for this. By the way, Thank you guys for all you do!!!!!
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John C. Livesay said:
Okay, downloaded the new app, set my Systematic Theology to be available offline. I now have no books in my library, when I search, I get no results, in my reading menu there are no recent books, and my library seems empty. Hoping there is an easy fix for this. By the way, Thank you guys for all you do!!!!!
John take a look at this thread, we are having the same problem http://community.logos.com/forums/t/8183.aspx
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Hi;
Same problem here: downloaded the ESV Bible and a couple of other books and on the next launch, an error message welcomes me saying something like "Logos couldn't load the book." My library is completely empty and no searches available.
Tried logging out, uninstalling, resetting, etc and still the same.
Please help!!
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I've updated my original post. Most likely, the reason people aren't seeing a title in offline mode is because they didn't allow for the resource to complete downloading. Wait until you receive your confirmation message that the resource has downloaded entirely. After that, you should see it in your library in offline mode.
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I'm getting error downloading some books - the download starts like normal, but after a while I get the message "unable to download resouece". The books involved include BHS (WIVU), enhanced BDB, TDNT (unabridged), NLT. Is the error caused by permission problems?
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I went through my library initiating a bunch of downloads. After about a dozen, the app crashed. I also noticed that several of the download/aeroplane icons were repeated (i.e. stacked on top of each other), if that's relevant.
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Amy Leung said:
I'm getting error downloading some
books - the download starts like normal, but after a while I get the
message "unable to download resouece". The books involved include BHS
(WIVU), enhanced BDB, TDNT (unabridged), NLT. Is the error caused by
permission problems?I also had issues with these books; though NLT the option to access offline was greyed out.
Mark Barnes said:I also noticed that several of the download/aeroplane icons were repeated (i.e. stacked on top of each other), if that's relevant.
I saw this too but it fixed itself...
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In “Offline Mode,” what “portions of the application will not operate properly until network connectivity is restored?”
As well, are BHS (including morphology), NA27 (including morphology), BDAG, and HALOT available for the iPod Touch and off-line?
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Ryan,
I've got the no books problem like everyone else along with the warnings about being unable to download resources (the warnings only happened late last night before the library became empty). However, when I was initially getting into the error state, all of my books that had successfully downloaded had three to four plane icons stacked on them. Could you update the tutorial to explain what that means?
Linden
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If one would like to purchase the iPod Touch and use Logos on it, but mainly access resources/books off-line, what would the minimum recommended hard-drive space be (e.g., 8, 16, 32, or 64 GB)?
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Ryan Burns said:
issues everyone experienced overnight have been resolved
Ryan, I still cannot download the NASB. The select is still grayed out. On the other hand, everything else is working fine, and more than justified my purchase of the iPod Touch, it works wonderfully.
Thanks,
DP
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But what does 'offline' mean in this case? It appears that I still access it through the Logos app, which means I am online, right? Why not an offline Logos app? Maybe I just don't get it.
Wayne Schaefer
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WayneSchaefer said:
But what does 'offline' mean in this case? It appears that I still access it through the Logos app, which means I am online, right? Why not an offline Logos app? Maybe I just don't get it.
The iphone app seems to access books in two ways. The default way is to go online and download or cache a little of the book for your to read. Now, as a result of this update, there is also a way to tell the app to download the book by using the method stated above. Once said book is marked in the library with an airplain it is available even if your iphone is in airplane mode or if your ipod touch does not have wireless access.
I think the reason for this is that the library available is massive. If you have a large collection as some do, you may have 3,000 books available. I personally don't want a number of the books on my iphone. I just want some bible translations and commentaries and other references and the two or three books I am reading to be available all the time.
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To me, "offline" in this context means that I can access the entire resource/book on the iPod Touch (after having downloaded it from the Internet or uploaded it from my computer) without being connected to the Internet via WiFi or any other means.
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Here's a weird-enough one. I can't get any modules to be downloadable. I've gone through a dozen at least--all the ones mentioned here. :-(
Could it be that I'm in Poland? Could it be my jailbroken phone? (I got gyped on a purchase--said it was a factory unlock, but it was sim-locked... In the end, rather than fight over it, I just jail-broke it to use it on my network)
-Jon
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First let me say that online this is an incredible app. It is great to be able to read resources offline, and like Kevin, I do not think I would want to have my entire library offline. However, I would like to be able to search, use the Passage Guide etc to go from Bible text to these other tools for the resources that I do have offline. Otherwise it is just a reader when offline. Better, but not yet the best.
Thanks for all the work and developments. This is such a cool app.
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My experience so far has been somewhat patchy. Some sources have downloaded well (Lenski books, Concordia Trig English, ESV), others have lead to the program crashing (BHS, TDNT, BDB Enhanced).
Also, none of the Spanish Bibles currently are working for download (where is the Reina Valera? I'm pretty sure that is no longer under copyright.)
I'm thankful for the offline access of what I have been able to download, hopefully the bugs get ironed out so that all of the books may be downloaded smoothly.
Once that is the case, and the NIV (and NVI) is added to the Ipod capabilities. I will be heading straight to Itunes to give it my 5 star rating.
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Haven't been able to download any books for offline viewing on my 3Gs. Have tried over wifi, 3G, and EDGE. It's really starting to bum me out. All I get is a greyed-out button regardless of what book I want. If I could just get ESV and a couple of the commentaries . . . but, Alas!
Hope a solution comes soon. Thanks for the app, though. It's got a lot of potential.
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Ryan,
The tutorial is great; with it, I was able to download several books to my ipod. Unforterately, several of the books downloaded the wrong title. How do I delete them from ipod? Thanks for the assistance.0 -
Lynn,
Just click on the blue arrow again and slide the "download book" button to "off". It will remove itself shortly.
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I'm having the same problem but am using a brand new iPod Touch...any help would be appreciated...
Jon Glass said:Here's a weird-enough one. I can't get any modules to be downloadable. I've gone through a dozen at least--all the ones mentioned here. :-(
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I presume you've both updated to the latest version in the App Store?
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Mark Barnes said:
I presume you've both updated to the latest version in the App Store?
Yep, have even uninstalled and reinstalled on the iPod touch using iTunes...still the buttons are all greyed out, they're there but there's not functionality...
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Clutching at straws a little now. Got enough storage space?
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Can't speak for the others, but I have between 8 and 9 gig available, and when I started this experiment, I had almost 14 gig. So I doubt it's a space issue. I wonder, though if it's a 3GS? Anybody with a 3GS who has this working?
-Jon
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Jon Glass said:
Anybody with a 3GS who has this working?
That would be me. Works fine on my 3GS, and has since it was first released. I just downloaded another book this morning.
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Phil Gons said:Linden said:
Can you quantify what limited means?
You can read and navigate books in offline mode, but you can't search them or access them in reports like the Passage Guide, Bible Word Study, and Text Comparison.
WOW!! That is a huge drawback.
Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
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Philip Buettel said:
Haven't been able to download any books for offline viewing on my 3Gs.
You need to have purchased Logos 4 and have a license for the resource to be able to download it for offline reading. Check out Logos 4 here: http://www.logos.com/4.
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Lynn Hinman said:
Unforterately, several of the books downloaded the wrong title.
Can you explain a little more so we can test? What book were you trying to download and what book actually downloaded?
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Jacob Hantla
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Jacob Hantla said:
The problem is people don't want to have to connect. AT&T is th weakness. In my area I do not have 3GS so I have to rely on Edge or Wifi. So while doing a little light reading will be fine on my iPhone, doing any real serious study with it is a waste. So then having the Passage guide or word study guide only taughts me and makes me want the app to do what it says it can do all the time. But with this limitation it cannot do it all the time.
Now the latest 1.2.1 update is so buggy it won't run for very long. Crashes all the time.
You make big promises and cannot deliver it leaves me feeling disappointed. The Logos iPhone app has the potential to be the very best bible app on the iphone. Right now it is not even useful.
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Kevin,
I couldn't disagree more about the app being "not at all useful." Just the fact that I can download books from my library to my iPod and read on the go make it (for me) more useful than any other app out there.
I'm also not having problems with crashes like you are. What's causing them?
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David B Phillips said:
Kevin,
I couldn't disagree more about the app being "not at all useful." Just the fact that I can download books from my library to my iPod and read on the go make it (for me) more useful than any other app out there.
I'm also not having problems with crashes like you are. What's causing them?
It might not be crashing for you. When you open it and hit something and it just disappears back to the iphone home screen that makes it frustrating to use. I will patiently wait till there is a fix.
Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
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Kevin-
Honestly, I don't think that Logos ever promised or even insinuated a Logos4 replacement for the iPhone. You can't expect something that is cutting edge and saps the resources of top-of-the-line computers to run on your phone, especially after 2 months of programming.
The iPhone app offers your portable access to your library with some extra features. More than anything it is a souped up e-reader. ANd for that purpose, it is great! At no cost to us, we get all our books in our pocket. If you really need to do some serious "study" sit down at your computer. If you want to read while not being tied to your computer, iPhone app.
Use them in combo. One doesn't replace the other; rather, they work well together to help us get even more out of our digital library.
Jacob Hantla
Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
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I will also add my voice of discontent. The offline mode does not work for me either. As soon as I select the offline mode and click on the done button, or a few seconds after, the app will crash out to the Home screen. I've tried several books and bibles, all with the same result.
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My ipod touch was doing fine till I updated the app. All my books that downloaded were gone, every time I try to download a book it crashes. It works ok online.
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Once I get to "sixth" -- the orange download arrow -- the app quits. It doesn't make it to message that the book is available offline. It has failed on more than one title. I'm using an iPod Touch (software version 3.2.1) on wifi. I have 52 gigs free.
I'm enjoying reading a book on my iPod. The app is great. I'm looking forward to having a book available offline.
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