Anchor Yale Bible is Broken Up!!

https://www.logos.com/products/search?q=ayb&start=0&sort=rel&pageSize=60
Now we can choose the volumes we really appreciated..:-)
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Thanks Rosie! I've edit the link with the right parameters.
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That link will only show AYB for the short term until newer things are released after it, so here's a link that will work whenever someone stumbles across this thread:
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At least in the New Testament they should all be lbxlls -files.
EDIT: just the most interesting volumes in the New Testament in Logos would have been exactly $471. I got the NT set including the old Mt -volume in Accordance on a sale for $449.99. The interesting NT volumes are: First Corinthians by Joseph A. Fitzmyer, The Letters to the Thessalonians by Abraham J. Malherbe, Letter to Philemon by Joseph A. Fitzmyer, II Corinthians by Victor Paul Furnish, Colossians by Markus Barth, Helmut Blanke and Astrid B. Beck, The Letter of James by Luke Timothy Johnson, Mark 1–8 by Joel Marcus, Mark 8–16 by Joel Marcus, Galatians by J. Louis Martyn, 2 Peter, Jude by Jerome H. Neyrey, Epistles of John by Raymond Edward Brown.
I have Isaiah 56–66 by Joseph Blenkinsopp as printed matter.
EDIT2: I have not had a thorough look at the OT volumes. I just bought Zondervan Illustrated Bible Backgrounds Commentary (btw: the price for ZIBBCOT can't be negotiated lower on phone, not even when ordering other things at the same time). Unless I return ZIBBCOT I doubt I will afford to buy anything in Logos this weekend, on Monday or in April. I just put ~ $1,500 (which I had managed to save since end of December 2013) on a savings account with OK interest where the money will be locked for a year, to prevent me from ordering too many books.
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I have been waiting for this for a long time.
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Anyone?Martin Grainger Dean said:I'm wondering if we buy these as logos4 or lbxlls files? Can anyone from Logos tell us? Thanks, Martin.
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Some time ago one user said the whole set is lbxlls -files. I doubt that has changed unless there are some very recent OT volumes which would then be logos4, but only if they are very recent and the rest of the volumes would still be lbxlls:
Martin Grainger Dean said:
Anyone?Martin Grainger Dean said:I'm wondering if we buy these as logos4 or lbxlls files? Can anyone from Logos tell us? Thanks, Martin.
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Martin Grainger Dean said:
Anyone?Martin Grainger Dean said:I'm wondering if we buy these as logos4 or lbxlls files? Can anyone from Logos tell us? Thanks, Martin.
Most of them are lbxlls files, though a few, more recently released, are logos4 (the 2nd volume of Mark, the 2nd volume of Proverbs, Nahum, and Jonah):
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This is good news. And thanks to Unix for sharing his thoughts on the most valuable volumes.
Would others please share their thoughts on which volumes of Anchor are most to be desired?
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Michael Childs said:
Would others please share their thoughts on which volumes of Anchor are most to be desired?
My exposure to the series is pretty limited, but the one I bought in paper is Jacob Milgrom's 3 Leviticus volumes.
They are unparalleled IMHO for a technical study of the book. With caveats and considerations. He writes as a Jew, not a Christian, so he does not reveal Jesus on purpose, but he is there nonetheless.His knowledge of the rabbinic literature is vast, his mastery of Hebrew is obvious ("native?").
If you're going to study Leviticus with depth, it is a worthy three volume set.
Now I'm just trying to convince my stubborn budget that I can get them in Logos too.
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Anyone know what kind of commentary The Wisdom of Ben Sira by Patrick W. Skehan and Alexander A. Di Lella is and whether it really was revised in 1995? Looking at the information on AZ it seems to be originally from 1988.
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bump! No hurry, but I haven't received answers to my questions in the above post.
Btw, I'm photo-copying for private use from the newer Jeremiah -volumes by Jack Lundbom, so far I've got some interesting pages from the Introduction. Not sure what verses would be worth the cost, as I'm not studying at that particular uni they are not giving me discounted photo-copying prices.
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Note the 2008 above vs the 1974 for the copyright. The preface (final available version) is 1985. Scanning the bibliography (which is most often to be in updated), the latest date is the early 80's, with most grouped in the 1960s and thense early 1900s.
If indeed you were interesting in Ben, the various 2nd Temple monographs have far more recent information, since Ben seems to have been the only reasonably stable writer after Esther finished her autobiography.
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I have been waiting for this for years. It is difficult to express my excitement, so I will just say: Thank you Logos!!!
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Can someone give me a list of the Anchor Yale Volumes that have been written by Jewish scholars? Somebody that owns the whole set as well as the denomination tags could probably very easily compile such a list for me. Thank you!
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Michael
I would have to say The book of Daniel & Revelation, then the three from Isaiah, then the three from Jeremiah. But this is because of looking into end times..
But all of these would be a pretty penny.[:(]
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Genesis Leviticus Numbers and Deuteronomy were written by Jews.
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Lee Garrison said:
Michael
I would have to say The book of Daniel & Revelation, then the three from Isaiah, then the three from Jeremiah. But this is because of looking into end times..
But all of these would be a pretty penny.
Their introduction states that: "The book of Daniel was written as resistance literature, to strengthen and console loyal Jews of the second century BC who had to endure religious, economic, and social oppression at the hands of Antiochus I."
https://www.logos.com/product/41441/the-anchor-yale-bible-the-book-of-daniel
And thus would be useless for studying end times as the AYB declares Daniel to be a second century fake. Just saved myself $31.95.
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Schumitinu said:
Can someone give me a list of the Anchor Yale Volumes that have been written by Jewish scholars? Somebody that owns the whole set as well as the denomination tags could probably very easily compile such a list for me. Thank you!
E. A. Speiser wrote the Genesis volume.
Moshe Greenberg wrote two of the Ezekiel volumes.
Jacob Milgrom wrote the three Leviticus volumes and is writing the third Ezekiel volume.
Baruch Levine wrote the two Numbers volumes.
Moshe Weinfeld wrote the first Deuteronomy volume.
Mordechai Cogan wrote or co-wrote the two volumes on Kings.
Tamara Cohn Eskenazi is writing a replacement volume on Ezra-Nehemiah.
Michael V. Fox wrote the two volumes on Proverbs.
Adele Berlin wrote the Zephaniah volume.
Eric and Carol Meyers co-wrote the volumes covering Haggai and Zechariah.
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David Ames said:
And thus would be useless for studying end times as the AYB declares Daniel to be a second century fake. Just saved myself $31.95.
I looked at the Exodus books because that is what we are going through now. Two volumes of around 1500 pages expounding on Exodus which the author thinks is fiction. I just saved almost $110.
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David Knoll said:
Genesis Leviticus Numbers and Deuteronomy were written by Jews.
This really isn't an issue one way or the other for scholarship, Milgrom's work on Leviticus are the only volumes I want in the OT portion of AYB. His commentaries on Leviticus are superb.
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Thank you elnwood
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Robert Harner said:David Ames said:
And thus would be useless for studying end times as the AYB declares Daniel to be a second century fake. Just saved myself $31.95.
I looked at the Exodus books because that is what we are going through now. Two volumes of around 1500 pages expounding on Exodus which the author thinks is fiction. I just saved almost $110.
It is amazing that many of the BIG names in Biblical research do not believe that the Bible is the Word of God.
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I think one question is that If the person that Biblical researcher does not believe the Book of the Bible is the true Word of God, then what is the real value of any research he/she does with the Bible. Is it pointless to read what the person has to say?
I'm just thinking out loud. What is your view on this?
I would have though that the Anchor Yale Bible would have used people that did Believe the books of the Bible are the true Word of God.
What is the point of a commentary from someone that doesn't believe the truth of scripture?
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This post is a blatant attempt to raise my post count as I have double posted it.
A Question that has been asked is:
Found at: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/82802/626277.aspx#626277Lee Garrison said:
I think one question is that If the person that Biblical researcher does not believe the Book of the Bible is the true Word of God, then what is the real value of any research he/she does with the Bible. Is it pointless to read what the person has to say?I'm just thinking out loud. What is your view on this?
What is the point of a commentary from someone that doesn't believe the truth of scripture?
Also there is a thread that allows us to create collections by denomination
Theology/Denomination Tags
Found at: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/82802/626277.aspx#626277
Maybe what we need is a collection of authors that don't believe the truth of scripture?
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What is the point of raising your post count?
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I think we may be drifting towards ChristianDiscourse.com on this so I'll tread lightly.
Lee Garrison said:I think one question is that If the person that Biblical researcher does not believe the Book of the Bible is the true Word of God, then what is the real value of any research he/she does with the Bible. Is it pointless to read what the person has to say?
A good question perhaps. But only maybe a bit misleading (unintentionally).
While it is true that some authors of any given book may not share your view of the inspiration of scripture, that does not negate their prowess in linguistics or history, etc. God causes the sun to shine on the righteous as well as the unrighteous. So there may be some in depth scholarship which renders a book by such an author as valuable on that playing field.
But knowing the author's stance (usually stated somewhere in the opening material) does inform you of what kind of filter of your own to employ when reading and referencing the book. This is my most important point.
One example I would point to in the AYB is the Leviticus commentaries by Jacob Milgrom. I have been studying Leviticus for a few years now, there simply are no commentaries that compare to the breadth of knowledge, insight, and yes spiritual application that Milgrom brings to the table. Granted, Milgrom does believe that Lev. is the word of God - but he also subscribes to some documentary theories I reject. More than that, he was Jewish, not Christian. That is, he did not, as I understand, embrace Jesus as messiah.
So I open up Milgrom, filter out the documentary stuff that I've already studied and rejected, calculate for his missing Christology, and gain an enormous blessing from the book of Leviticus with Jacob Milgrom's help.
Your mileage of course may vary from author to author. But I have never yet found an author I agree completely with on everything.
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mab said:David Knoll said:
Genesis Leviticus Numbers and Deuteronomy were written by Jews.
This really isn't an issue one way or the other for scholarship, Milgrom's work on Leviticus are the only volumes I want in the OT portion of AYB. His commentaries on Leviticus are superb.
I was only replying to a question. I agree with everything you say.
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So I open up Milgrom, filter out the documentary stuff that I've already studied and rejected, calculate for his missing Christology, and gain an enormous blessing from the book of Leviticus with Jacob Milgrom's help.
That is so funny! I have a degree in engineering, so I can imagine the calculation and re-calculation on a piece of paper, adjusting the trajectory, and ... BUM ... good theology. LOL
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If my response was misleading it was not meant to be.
I was of the impression that AYB was a very high demand collection. And when I looked at this post I want to see what others users think of it.
What I was trying to ask is why would the AYB want to have any scholarship from someone that did not believe the Bible. If in fact Hartman, Louis, Di Lella, Alexander do not believe that the book of Daniel is inspired by God. I can not say what they believe, I don’t have any volume of AYB. I only had an interest in it because of the set being broken up which I am happy about.
David Ames said I quote “Their introduction states that: "The book of Daniel was written as resistance literature, to strengthen and console loyal Jews of the second century BC who had to endure religious, economic, and social oppression at the hands of Antiochus I."
https://www.logos.com/product/41441/the-anchor-yale-bible-the-book-of-daniel
And thus would be useless for studying end times as the AYB declares Daniel to be a second century fake. Just saved myself $31.95.
Michael asked which volumes we would be interested in, so I listed Daniel & Revelation as two of the volumes that I would desire if I had the money.
I am sorry if again I was misunderstood.
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Not misunderstood Lee. I try to give answers that benefit not only the questioner but future readers.
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I think the question of which commentaries are compatible with which of the human creeds is a valid issue. Few of the OT or NT books propose to be from God or his Holy Spirit (though some try to identify who wrote them). Ditto the NT. Even Jesus pointed out Moses was on his own in certain instances, and didn't view that as a biggie; just a fact of life needing recognition.
I've always thought that if Logos more clearly identified the books, they'd make a lot more money. Most people don't collect interesting books; they read relative to their denomination. Demanding they play russian roulette with their credit card is not immensely profitable.
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Lee Garrison said:
What I was trying to ask is why would the AYB want to have any scholarship from someone that did not believe the Bible. If in fact Hartman, Louis, Di Lella, Alexander do not believe that the book of Daniel is inspired by God. I can not say what they believe, I don’t have any volume of AYB. I only had an interest in it because of the set being broken up which I am happy about.
David Ames said I quote “Their introduction states that: "The book of Daniel was written as resistance literature, to strengthen and console loyal Jews of the second century BC who had to endure religious, economic, and social oppression at the hands of Antiochus I."
https://www.logos.com/product/41441/the-anchor-yale-bible-the-book-of-daniel
And thus would be useless for studying end times as the AYB declares Daniel to be a second century fake. Just saved myself $31.95.
I fail to see why an introduction to a book which obviously has quite a bit of "code language" that evidently made sense to the first audience, and which compares it with many other writings from that approximate era and sees that it was common for a community under persecution two write things about how in spite of first appearances, that God is in charge after all and will set things right in the end, and to use symbolic place names and people and then concludes that the book makes a lot of sense in the 2nd century BCE is automatically "not believing the bible." It may not be what you think it means. They may even be wrong. But that does not mean that they don't believe it is inspired by God...
Lee Garrison said:Michael asked which volumes we would be interested in, so I listed Daniel & Revelation as two of the volumes that I would desire if I had the money.
Just about every list I have seen would list the value of Anchor volumes would put Ford's commentary on Revelation at or near the bottom as a near waste of time and money for, uh, idiosyncratic views, lack of space given to back them up, and lack of interaction with others. The volume on Daniel has no where near that reputation, but was never talked about really.
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Ken, you illustrate my point excellently. You'd expect Ford's commentary on Revelation to be 'near the bottom' of a list that tries to be compatible with traditional beliefs (irrespective of creed). On the other hand, if you're looking for jewish and Baptist threads that might have survived the Roman destruction of Palestine, Ford's commentary would be a good one to review.
Ditto on AYB's Nahum, if I remember right, is an excellent volume on music. Most people'd be wasting their pennies. But some would want to know the details. Product information is a good thing.
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