Anglican offering is quite Reformed

Does anybody else think that Logos' Anglican offering is quite Reformed? Most of the offering is N.T. Wright (49 resources) and McGrath (14). Names such as George Whitefield and JI Packer don't conjure up much of the Anglo-Catholic heritage and whilst there are a few alternatives, one would think that Anglo-catholics didn't produce commentatries. Would it have been better to buy Verbum? Logos is great, but it has a very Evangelical slant concerning its commentary offering. Will this change?

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elnwood

A Rayner, from my Reformed Baptist perspective, I don't think of Wright and McGrath as Reformed. Whitefield and Packer, yes.

What commentaries and other resources would you suggest that would reflect an Anglo-Catholic heritage? I'm afraid I'm rather ignorant of Anglo-Catholic scholarship.

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife)

Does anybody else think that Logos' Anglican offering is quite Reformed?

Thanks for your feedback. [:D] Here are my thoughts (with a caveat that words like "Anglo-Catholic" and "Evangelical" can be a bit subjective [:S])

When designing these packages, we tried to make them as balanced as possible (b/w Evangelical, Liberal and Anglo-Catholic). We also tried to include resources from outside the tradition that would be interesting/important to Anglicans of various stripes.

I'm not sure which specific level you're looking at, but I would say that the lower levels (say, Starter through Silver) tend to lean a bit more Evangelical and the higher levels a bit more balanced and even more Catholic/Anglo-Catholic.

Here's an introductory review from Derek Olsen (an Anglo Catholic and member of the Standing Commission on Liturgy and Music). He seemed to think the packages struck a good balance.

All that to say, this is always going to be a difficult balance to strike. I don't know which level you own, but I'd be curious to have you look at some of the other levels and give me your thoughts.

Dan Francis

Verbum might be a better choice indeed i owned capstone before Anglican gold since there was no Anglican collection for the longest time. I would love to see more modern Anglican authors such as Bishop Ingham's Mansions of the Spirit, Marcus Borg, Gene Robinson, Spong. But Logos tends not to bring in more controversial authors on the left side of theological spectrum. Indeed were Logos to offer them there is a chance they may not even make it out of pre pub, and a rucuss would be started. The classic Dracula was offered as book for the noet offerings and such a rucuss was put up that it got removed.

-Dan

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/635186#Comment_635186

Marcus Borg

We do have at least one Borg volume.

Unix

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/635206#Comment_635206

Looking forward to when the set is broken up, immediately thought I'd want at least a couple of the volumes. Any chance Logos could include select volumes (doesn't need to be many) in a mid-level L6 or L7 Anglican base-package? I'm very unlikely to buy higher than Silver, even that is a stretch. I've tried out L5 Anglican Bronze but returned it:

We do have at least one Borg volume.:
Marcus Borg

Rayner

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/635156#Comment_635156

Ben, thanks for your response. I only own Silver, which is why I might be thinking that things lean towards the Evangelical. I will go and take a look at Gold, but my computer's memory is struggling with running Logos as things stand (and Logos is killing my finances). I cannot read and highlight the existing resources fast enough, and now version 6 is here, there are even more commentaries so I may have to wait until there's some kind of sale before even vaguely considering upgrading to Gold. (I'm slightly concerned about spending such large amounts of money!!)

George Somsel

Does anybody else think that Logos' Anglican offering is quite Reformed? Most of the offering is N.T. Wright (49 resources) and McGrath (14). Names such as George Whitefield and JI Packer don't conjure up much of the Anglo-Catholic heritage and whilst there are a few alternatives, one would think that Anglo-catholics didn't produce commentatries. Would it have been better to buy Verbum? Logos is great, but it has a very Evangelical slant concerning its commentary offering. Will this change?

I would hope that it is "quite Reformed" since it is historically Reformed.

Mark Barnes

Does anybody else think that Logos' Anglican offering is quite Reformed?

As a Reformed person, I don't think this (and neither Wright nor McGrath are Reformed). Anglican is the least attractive of all the base packages to me (apart from SDA).

I've described it in the past as "middle-of-the-road Anglicanism" — somewhere between Anglo-Catholic and evangelical. If you're more on the Anglo-Catholic side, you may have been better with Verbum. If you're more on the evangelical side, you may be better with Standard or Reformed.

Mike Pettit

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/647862#Comment_647862

Diamond is also less attractive now as it has dropped the ICC Old Testament volumes.

Nick Steffen

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/647862#Comment_647862

That's curious, Mark. I would've expected both Wright and McGrath (and most that sign onto the 39 Articles) to fall into the English Reformed camp. Perhaps you have a narrower sense of the term 'Reformed' than I do.

abondservant

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/647869#Comment_647869

I don't consider Wright reformed either. McGrath I'm not sure about.

I picked up anglican bronze for 8$ iirc, or else I probably wouldn't have this time around.

Mark Barnes

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/647869#Comment_647869

Perhaps you have a narrower sense of the term 'Reformed' than I do.

That's quite possible. But neither Wright nor McGrath make any claim to be reformed (that I'm aware of). Wright suggests that is theory of justification is compatible with reformed doctrine, but that's not the same as saying he's reformed (and most reformed people disagree, anyway!).

Nick Steffen

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/647900#Comment_647900

I know that Wright has identified as Reformed at times, not least in McCormack's Justification in Perspective where Wright offhandedly refers to himself as a "good Calvinist". While I know many would quibble about the label "Calvinist", he broadly falls into the Reformed theologians' camp (for more on Reformed diversity, I'm looking forward to reading Oliver Crisp's Deviant Calvinism). I suppose I tend to accept folks' allegiances at face value. And when it comes to Anglicans' confession of the 39 Articles, I generally assume a Reformed orientation until they demonstrate otherwise (an assumption that seems historically reliable). That probably explains the source of my assumption about McGrath, even though I honestly don't know how he self-identifies.

Unix

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/635156#Comment_635156

I hope L6 Anglican Silver leans less toward Evangelical now, than L5 Anglican Silver did?:

I'm not sure which specific level you're looking at, but I would say that the lower levels (say, Starter through Silver) tend to lean a bit more Evangelical and the higher levels a bit more balanced and even more Catholic/Anglo-Catholic.

Dan Francis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/661378#Comment_661378

I hope L6 Anglican Silver leans less toward Evangelical now, than L5 Anglican Silver did?:
I'm not sure which specific level you're looking at, but I would say that the lower levels (say, Starter through Silver) tend to lean a bit more Evangelical and the higher levels a bit more balanced and even more Catholic/Anglo-Catholic.

I would say a lot less in my mind... That said it still leans to the more conservative side of things. But Feasting on the Word is very progressive and has always been included in Anglican Gold.

-dan

Unix

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/661386#Comment_661386

Thanks, Dan! [:D]

EDIT: I see it's now in Silver as well:

But Feasting on the Word is very progressive and has always been included in Anglican Gold.

Dan Francis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/661388#Comment_661388

I missed that too... FOW like the newly added Eerdmans 3 Volume Lectionary commentary is done with a diverse number scholars and offering numerous positions but tends to be a little more progressive, while the Eerdmans scholars tend to be be a little more conservative.

-Dan