Bible Word Study Tool
I was looking at my Learn to D0 Word Studies from Logos and the ESV word ring tool had 81 Greek words for worship and now in Logos 6 I there are only 73. Did something change in the ESV or am I missing something.
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Claude Brown Jr said:
am I missing something.
I am not a greek person. Except for yogurt. I love that stuff.
I have the ESV set as my default bible, and so I ran the word study and got 73 results as you did. I changed the translation... and again... and again... but everything I changed it to, the count remained at 73. Either the tool doesn't work the way I think it should (provides a cumulative count for every original language word which is translated as "worship") or something is broken.
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Strange. On beta 6 (Windows) the count changes with the translation. Your AV 1873 shows a different histogram than your ESV (which looks like mine, but for me AV 1873 gives 72 results and more breakouts from the ring, NIV gives 70.
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Also so I meant to mention that the Septuagint tool is no longer included. I am starting to feel some kind of way about this Logos 6 investment. Hmmmmm...
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I think the Septuagint section opens with a hebrew lemma search, not an english word search, ( At least I do not recall seeing one) and it is still there.
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That is what I mean in Logos 4 it seems that it was a part of the Word Study Search itself, when searching using the tool from the Bible text itself. I never had Logos 4 but it shows up in the video. I don't remember from Logos 5.
John Fidel said:I think the Septuagint section opens with a Hebrew lemma search, not an english word search, ( At least I do not recall seeing one) and it is still there.
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Got it, shows up when I choose the Lemma instead of the English word, then the English words, Hebrew words and topic sections all drop out. Cool.
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Claude Brown Jr said:
Did something change in the ESV
This is a possibility (the ESV changes 'silently'), it also could be that 81 contained some duplicate counts from footnotes or so.
But something is amiss in that LXX gives no hits for greek lemmas (it can't be selected for Hebrew ones) and the Textual Searches neither - this may be a Beta 6 issue, since it doesn't work for the same studies I did under Beta 5. EDIT: but it seems this is a broken index on my machine only, so you may disregard this.
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Claude Brown Jr said:
I was looking at my Learn to D0 Word Studies from Logos and the ESV word ring tool had 81 Greek words for worship and now in Logos 6 I there are only 73. Did something change in the ESV or am I missing something.
Logos 6 'silently' changed from reporting hits to number of verses; which has inevitably created confusion.
Dave
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Dave Hooton said:Claude Brown Jr said:
I was looking at my Learn to D0 Word Studies from Logos and the ESV word ring tool had 81 Greek words for worship and now in Logos 6 I there are only 73. Did something change in the ESV or am I missing something.
Logos 6 'silently' changed from reporting hits to number of verses; which has inevitably created confusion.
Thanks I looked at the "created confusion" post, very helpful.
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I edited my post: something broke my index, that's the reason.
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That looks very strange????
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