Logos changing my saved layouts: feature or bug?

Maybe this is a bug, maybe it's just an incredibly badly thought out feature. I created a layout with this search, and saved the layout. Note I am searching the NRSV interlinear, and my secondary search text is the Lexham English Septuagint.

I then created a different layout, with this search, and saved the search. Note I am searching the Qumran Biblical Dead Sea Scrolls Databse, and my secondary search text is the Dead Sea Scrolls Study Edition (Translations).

Then I re-opened the original layout, only to discover the search had been changed; note the secondary search text is now the Dead Sea Scrolls Study Edition (Translations), instead of the Lexham English Septuagint, which is what I had set it to.

So I changed the secondary search text back to the Lexham English Septuagint, and re-saved the layout. I then returned to my Qumran texts layout, only to find that this had now been changed; the secondary search text is now the Lexham English Septuagint, not the Dead Sea Scrolls Study Edition (Translations), which I had set it to.

The same thing happens when you create multiple search tabs in a single layout; the secondary text always changes to the secondary text you used in your last search. It's particularly unsatisfying when you spend a lot of time carefully setting up four different layouts, only to find that Logos will arbitrarily change them even while they're closed, and you need to keep resetting them back the way you want them. It defeats the purpose of designing and saving layouts in the first place.

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DMB

I notice that monster target in each of your images; what if the search arguments held in the saved layout are re-targeting?

That said, I've experienced layout versions getting mixed up, even though the latest 'save' should have been the latest version.

Jonathan Burke

Thanks for the suggestion. I removed the search target setting from both layouts; it made no difference, the layouts still change as before.

Rosie Perera

Yes, I've complained about something related to this before, that search settings are global not saved with the Layout.

https://community.logos.com/forums/t/100564.aspx

I think both issues should be considered together in a design review.

Eli Evans?

Jonathan Burke

Thanks Rosie. If we can't rely on layouts remaining the way we designed them, it defeats the purpose of layouts in the first place.

Eli Evans (Logos)

There are two camps of users, those who want layouts to be generic task-based tile configurations that start in a mostly neutral state, and those who want layouts to be more like "projects" which store their own preferences. Our implementations (called "layouts" since L4, and "workspaces" prior to that) have always leaned heavily toward the former rather than the latter.

The current situation is a mostly unsatisfactory attempt to appease both camps without introducing a new concept for projects by inching toward a middle ground of saving some preferences with the layout but not others. However, we recognize that enough people want full-fledged projects that we'll have to address this need directly. This is currently about third on my list of large design issues to tackle in 2015, Lord willing.

Eli Evans (Logos)

That said, it looks like the real issue here is that the list of search result display versions (LES vs DSS) is stored per search type, not per search configuration. We can address that independent of the larger layouts vs projects question.

Dave Hooton

This is currently about third on my list of large design issues to tackle in 2015, Lord willing.

And this would be effected in both Logos 5 and Logos 6 because of sync'ing?

JT (alabama24)

However, we recognize that enough people want full-fledged projects that we'll have to address this need directly. This is currently about third on my list of large design issues to tackle in 2015, Lord willing.

You might get a Christmas card after all. [:P]