New Feature: New Testament Manuscript Explorer (Interactive)
What is it?
The New Testament Manuscript Explorer allows you to filter all the extant manuscript evidence according to type of manuscript, contents, date, textual family, and more.
How does it work?
New Testament manuscripts into a helpful interactive tool that lets you navigate, sort, and filter countless manuscript witnesses to the text of the New Testament. Find all manuscripts containing a portion of the Gospels copied in the 3rd century. Or find all the manuscripts that are a part of the Byzantine text type.
Where can I learn more?
Watch this feature in action here: https://logos.wistia.com/medias/ap51tnabo5
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Jacob Cerone said:
Where can I learn more?
Thank you Jacob - I'm afraid your link appears to be broken.
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GregW said:
Thank you Jacob - I'm afraid your link appears to be broken.
Thanks for the heads up on the broken link. I've removed it and will replace it when we have a video up for it!
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Love this new interactive tool! Excellent job Faithlife!
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By the way, the book cover is wrong. But the tool is amazing so... I'm not too offended :-) but just thought you'd like to know.
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Happy to see textual criticism getting more love! From the screenshot it looks like some of the manuscript names may be links but not others. Is that correct? If so, do they link to transcriptions or to images? Thanks!
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Only the ones in Logos have links, they are linked to the actual transcripts within Logos, and also have a link to the website hosting the image
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James Taylor said:
By the way, the book cover is wrong. But the tool is amazing so... I'm not too offended :-) but just thought you'd like to know.
This is known and fixed, I believe. You may need to restart Logos and/or update resources.
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James Taylor said:
Only the ones in Logos have links, they are linked to the actual transcripts within Logos, and also have a link to the website hosting the image
Yes, the manuscript detail will link to the manuscript information at the NTVMR. Depending on access (read the "About" text in the interactive) you can see images if they exist and transcriptions if they exist.
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James Taylor said:
they are linked to the actual transcripts within Logos, and also have a link to the website hosting the image
Interesting. Lays the groundwork for an interactive Church Fathers explorer and then an interactive textual variant explorer that displays all varients between texts of our choice. Hey, I can dream! [:)]
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Matthew said:
do they link to transcriptions or to images
1. The title of the manuscript links to the resource within Logos (if you own it)
2. Links to where the image is from to see the picture of the manuscript on the website
3. The passages the manuscript contains is linked to your Bible
4. The dating of the manuscript shows a popup of the same thing unabreviated (3rd becomes Third)
5. Links to the website of the place where the manuscript is housed
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Thanks Rick, guess we were posting simultaneously. I appreciate the clarification.
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James Taylor said:
The dating of the manuscript shows a popup of the same thing unabreviated (3rd becomes Third)
And when clicked it takes you to the timeline [Y]
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James Taylor said:
Thanks Rick, guess we were posting simultaneously. I appreciate the clarification.
No worries — your response was definitely more informative, and I'm sure folks appreciate your helpful graphic too! Thanks for the contribution!
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Rick Brannan (Faithlife) said:
This is known and fixed, I believe. You may need to restart Logos and/or update resources.
Yes, after a restart, and after the preparing library finished, now it is displaying the correct one [;)]
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I was originally on my phone when I posted earlier and did not get a good look at some of the screenshots. I just looked at them on my desktop, and let me just say this -- MIND. BLOWN. This looks incredibly awesome, even better than what I first thought it was. If I may ask another question, would it be a correct assumption that all the data shown the screenshots is self-contained in the interactive resource? For example, we will be able to see which manuscripts are "Consistently Cited in NA28" even if we do not own a separate NA28 apparatus? Great work Faithlife! [Y] [Y] [Y]
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Matthew said:would it be a correct assumption that all the data shown the screenshots is self-contained in the interactive resource? For example, we will be able to see which manuscripts are "Consistently Cited in NA28" even if we do not own a separate NA28 apparatus?
You can still filter the data by that facet and see which manuscripts it cites, but if there's a link, (meaning Logos has that resource tagged) it will just be a link that says, you don't have a license for this resource, if you don't have that resource
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James Taylor said:
You can still filter the data by that facet and see which manuscripts it cites, but if there's a link, (meaning Logos has that resource tagged) it will just be a link that says, you don't have a license for this resource, if you don't have that resource
That's good enough for me!
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I upgraded to 6.4 this morning, and there are no "new updates" pending - but I do not see this resource in the list of interactive tools...where is it located?
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Phil Long said:
I upgraded to 6.4 this morning, and there are no "new updates" pending - but I do not see this resource in the list of interactive tools...where is it located?
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No, not Logos now. I did not realize it was only available for that service.
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Phil Long said:
No, not Logos now. I did not realize it was only available for that service.
Yeah, unfortunately for NOW it is only available to those who subscribe to Logos Now. It's a great service, at a minimal monthly price point. If you haven't tried it yet know that you can get a free month trial to give it a test run.
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Jacob Cerone said:
The New Testament Manuscript Explorer allows you to filter all the extant manuscript evidence according to type of manuscript, contents, date, textual family, and more.
I'm glad for this! However, awhile back I noted that we don't have two important Mss namely the Bodmer p73 and and p74 Mss. I brought this to the attention of FL. I was given assurances that this oversight would be addressed and I needn't bring it to the attention of the wider community. Well it has been about a year and this has not been closed and I'm wondering if it has fallen off the radar.
It would be welcome if someone would comment on this and give a time frame for when this will be corrected. Jacob, you are not who I spoke to so I don't hold you responsible, but since you are the spokesperson rolling out this feature I figure you would be a good person to carry this back to whomever can make this right. Thanks!
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This is how it looks for Bodmer p73, in the NT ms explorer and with the net browser on the same screen
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Beloved said:
I'm glad for this! However, awhile back I noted that we don't have two important Mss namely the Bodmer p73 and and p74 Mss. I brought this to the attention of FL. I was given assurances that this oversight would be addressed and I needn't bring it to the attention of the wider community. Well it has been about a year and this has not been closed and I'm wondering if it has fallen off the radar.
Are these manuscripts in the NTVMR from which Logos extracts the data? -- "The vast majority of data that the New Testament Manuscript Explorer relies upon is accessed from the New Testament Virtual Manuscript Room (NTVMR). " If they are not then we should not expect to find them in the tool. But isn't this the first and the one below the second?
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MJ. Smith said:
Are these manuscripts in the NTVMR from which Logos extracts the data? -- "The vast majority of data that the New Testament Manuscript Explorer relies upon is accessed from the New Testament Virtual Manuscript Room (NTVMR). " If they are not then we should not expect to find them in the tool. But isn't this the first and the one below the second?
Thank you MJ and Veli for clearing up the cloud of confusion over how to gain access to the Mss. I thought we could only view those Mss that were hyperlinked within L6. I didn't expand the selection and therefore missed the links to NTVMR.
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I would also like to see an interactive textual variant explorer. At first I thought that was what this provided, but it's still very helpful in its own right.
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