Word and Footnotes
I just updated Logos with the most recent update and then also I am using Microsoft Word version 15.28, and when I copy from a commentary and paste into Word, it's no longer auto-footnoting it any more. It's juts putting the citation directly after the quote in the body of my document.
Is there a setting I changed on accident? Is anyone else experiencing this?
Pastor, Mt. Leonard Baptist Church, SBC
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Have you checked what the "copy footnotes as" is set at under Tools, Program Settings?
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Yes, I have. I've tried all the options.
Pastor, Mt. Leonard Baptist Church, SBC
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There might be a setting in Word that needs to be corrected. Pictures will follow my instructions for clarity.
1. On the Ribbon select "References"
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2. Click on the little arrow next to "Footnotes".
3. When the box pops up, ensure that "Footnotes" and "Bottom of Page" are selected.
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It's set as such. Those are the default settings in Word, as far as I know.
Pastor, Mt. Leonard Baptist Church, SBC
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Just checking: when you attempt to put a footnote yourself in Word, does it still appear normally at the bottom of the page?
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Yes. I can manually do it with no problem. I mean, honestly, it's not that big of a deal having to do it manually. I guess I got used to the nice functionality of it doing it for me.
Every time, with every setting, this is how it pastes into Word:
Pastor, Mt. Leonard Baptist Church, SBC
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Jon Bradley said:
Every time, with every setting, this is how it pastes into Word
If you select "set default paste"
What setting do you have for "Pasting from other programs"?
"Keep Text Only" will give you the results you are seeing
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I was able to reproduce using the same resource. After right clicking in Word, if I use the paste button furthest to the right, I get your results. If I use either of the other two buttons, the citations work correctly.
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Rick said:
I was able to reproduce using the same resource. After right clicking in Word, if I use the paste button furthest to the right, I get your results. If I use either of the other two buttons, the citations work correctly.
How does this translate into Word for Mac Settings? I've never had this problem before.
Pastor, Mt. Leonard Baptist Church, SBC
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Whoops, I quoted the wrong post on asking that question, it was supposed to be for Graham Criddle.
But, I've tried all three paste options and I get the same results each time.
Pastor, Mt. Leonard Baptist Church, SBC
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Are there any Logos/FL people that might be able to look into this?
I have tried everything mentioned on this thread, and I'm still nowhere
Pastor, Mt. Leonard Baptist Church, SBC
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Jon Bradley said:
Are there any Logos/FL people that might be able to look into this?
I have tried everything mentioned on this thread, and I'm still nowhere
Jon,
I'm sorry your having trouble getting this to work. I'm looking into the situation and will follow up once I have more info.
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Jon Bradley said:
Are there any Logos/FL people that might be able to look into this?
I have tried everything mentioned on this thread, and I'm still nowhere
Jon,
It looks like Microsoft Word for Mac version 15.28 is not the current public build, I'm not able to reproduce this on 15.27. Do you know if this was working properly before you updated from 15.27?
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Yes, it was working before 15.28.
Pastor, Mt. Leonard Baptist Church, SBC
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Jon Bradley said:
Yes, it was working before 15.28.
Thanks for confirming, I'll get a case written up for the team to look at.
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Thank you!
Pastor, Mt. Leonard Baptist Church, SBC
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Looks like if you paste as RTF the footnotes will insert at the bottom of the page as before.
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I am having the same issue as Jon..any word on a fix?
Keith Pang, PhD Check out my blog @ https://keithkpang.wixsite.com/magnifyingjesus
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I'm having the same issue as Jon and Keith.
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I am also having the same issue.
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Addendum:
I got it to work finally....had to copy an entire sentence from my Logos source and then delete out what I did not need. In short, copying and citing just a few words does not work.
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JoshInRI said:
Why O Why are the simplest most obvious things challenging to do in Logos. It used to work??!!!!
In this case, you're dealing with two different applications, developed by two different companies, and a change in one program affected the other.
Things break at times, which are outside of FL's control, and FL fixes issues in upcoming releases.
While this particular issue may be a nuisance for you at present, it doesn't hurt to be thankful for word processors and bible study software that we didn't have a couple of decades ago.
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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JoshInRI said:
In short, copying and citing just a few words does not work. Thanks
This is by design - and has been the case for a long time. I believe the lower limit is about 40 characters
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As far as I know, the only people having problems are those who subscribe to the Office Insider program, which is basically the Office 365 Beta program. So, chances are, the issue is a Microsoft one, not one with Logos.
Also, someone mentioned doing a "Paste Special" and pasting as RTF, and that does work, placing the footnotes at the bottom. It's an extra step, however, it takes less time to Paste something in then copy and paste into a manually created footnote (going step by step to create it).
I am perfectly okay with a few extra steps, especially knowing that it was my choice in joining the Office Insider program that probably caused this to not work.
Pastor, Mt. Leonard Baptist Church, SBC
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I'm not part of the insider program and still happens to me
Keith Pang, PhD Check out my blog @ https://keithkpang.wixsite.com/magnifyingjesus
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Jon Bradley said:
As far as I know, the only people having problems are those who subscribe to the Office Insider program, which is basically the Office 365 Beta program. So, chances are, the issue is a Microsoft one, not one with Logos.
Jon,
With the recent update pushed by Microsoft Office normal office user now have the issue. We do have a case open for this problem. It was a change in Word.
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Whoops. I did not know that. Thank you for letting me know
Pastor, Mt. Leonard Baptist Church, SBC
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Philana R. Crouch said:
With the recent update pushed by Microsoft Office normal office user now have the issue. We do have a case open for this problem. It was a change in Word.
Good to know! Excited for the update, for the convenience [:)]. Have been using the workaround in the meantime. Thanks! [Y]
Keith Pang, PhD Check out my blog @ https://keithkpang.wixsite.com/magnifyingjesus
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A word processor that does work well both with this feature and when working with Hebrew text is Mellel.
UPDATE: Please ignore the suggestion of Mellel since it does not export to .docx format.
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Philana R. Crouch said:
A word processor that does work well both with this feature and when working with Hebrew text is Mellel.
But can Melel save in docx format?
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Jack Caviness said:Philana R. Crouch said:
A word processor that does work well both with this feature and when working with Hebrew text is Mellel.
But can Melel save in docx format?
Jack,
Thanks for asking, I thought Mellel did export to .docx and it looks like it does not export to .docx at this time. I would not have suggested the app if I had realized it couldn't. I thought it had added that feature recently, but it looks like its still being requested.
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I am as well.
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I am having the same issue mentioned by Jon Bradley as well. I have tried pasting using "keep source formatting," and "match formatting." but it no longer copies with the citation in the footnotes. It just copies like it used to when I would copy it as text if I didn't want to keep the footnote. Now I can't get it to make the footnote with the citation unless I manually copy the citation into a footnote. Please fix this.
The only way I was able to get it to work like it used to was to paste using RTF, but as Jon said that is a a couple extra steps and less convenient since the old way used to work just fine.
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I'm in Santa Rosa Beach, FL. Not having any problems but I'm using Microsoft Word version 14.7.0, so it might be your version.
Hope you get it worked out soon.
Blessings!
Susan
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Susan this maybe because you're not on office subscription?
Keith Pang, PhD Check out my blog @ https://keithkpang.wixsite.com/magnifyingjesus
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Thanks for letting us know, Philana. I am looking forward to this being figured out as I complete my thesis (complete with Turabian formatting) this spring. I am praying for Microsoft's cooperation in correcting this.
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Pastor, Mt. Leonard Baptist Church, SBC
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I also am having this issue. I am using Word for Mac and have an Office 365 subscription as others have noted. I haven't tried the RTF work around yet, but will see if that works for me.
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Word is one of the worst formatted commentaries in Logos- its absolutely awful.
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This is about Microsoft Word lol
Keith Pang, PhD Check out my blog @ https://keithkpang.wixsite.com/magnifyingjesus
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Pastor, Mt. Leonard Baptist Church, SBC
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Thanks for confirming this was an issue with a Word update. Hope the wonderful folks at Logos/Faithlife will be able to create a fix so that the two programs work well together again. (By the way I have also noticed that when the reference is copied into Word from Logos that the volume number is not included when appropriate.)
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Thanks for the link. So grateful to find the step-by-step directions for setting this up.
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This is fixed in the new MS Word update 16.9 Office 365 Subscription
Keith Pang, PhD Check out my blog @ https://keithkpang.wixsite.com/magnifyingjesus
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Thanks for letting us know. I will be sure to update Word.
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