NEW JERUSALEM BIBLE - THIS NEEDS A BIG PUSH!!!
I just received the HARDBACK COPY of this Bible a few days ago, and it is so awesome. I cannot say enough good things about this Bible. I love it. I have not had a chance to sit down and read it, but just glancing through it, and reading certain passages is wonderful. I absolutely love how it uses the names of God in the translation right where they should be. I also love how it groups the books into The Pentateuch, The Historical Books, The Wisdom Books, The Prophets, and the New Testament. There are also the books of Tobit, Judith, 1st and 2nd Maccabees, The Book of Wisdom, Baruch. It is absolutely wonderful.
Exodus 3:14 just stunned and rendered me speechless with reverence and awe for Yahweh! Instead of it being worded "I AM THAT I AM", The New Jerusalem Bible has it worded as "I am he who is." Wow! Powerful! That hit me so deep in my spirit, I have not gotten over it yet.
I can see now why my friend Dan Francis was lobbying so hard for this Bible to get into production.
I absolutely love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I rate it 5 stars and beyond!!!!!!!!!!!
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Alright you convinced me... I'm in. Moody Bible Commentary could use a few pushes too if you feel like returning the favor
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I would be in... I would be in but
Is this something to do with the 'Immigration Ban'?
Not only keeping stuff out but keeping stuff in as well [:P]
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I would be in... I would be in but
Is this something to do with the 'Immigration Ban'?
Not only keeping stuff out but keeping stuff in as well [:P]
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Mike
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In Africa they say "it is not important what you know but whom you know"
When you know the right person, things start moving. [H]
I assume there are some Logos users who know the persons who could help remove this restriction.
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Ok Mattillo
I have returned the favor. I'm in on the Moody Bible Commentary.
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Veli Voipio said:
In Africa they say "it is not important what you know but whom you know"
That's true of Christianity too. [;)]
EDIT: BTW, I did put in a pre-order for this Bible. I seem to recall that the Psalms are wonderfully done (it's been a while since I've had access to this translation).
Help links: WIKI; Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)
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Kenute P. Curry said:
Ok Mattillo
I have returned the favor. I'm in on the Moody Bible Commentary.
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Thanks Kenute... It is now orange! www.logos.com/product/121682/
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Well, I pre-ordered Moody Bible Commentary, too. After seeing the name Rydelnik I feel this can be an interesting resource.
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PUSH!
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Mattillo said:
Thanks Kenute... It is now orange! www.logos.com/product/121682/
YES! I hope it makes it soon 👍
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Kenute P. Curry said:
Come on, let's PUSH the New Jerusalem Bible into production!
Kenute and the other distinguished brothers in this post,
MJ. once observed the strange difficulty one encounters with getting wide interest initiated in bibles despite Logos being a bible software program.
I am an early supporter for the NJB, but I have an ulterior motive for posting in this thread. My current project is to awaken support for two encyclopedias perhaps you've all noted the thread https://community.logos.com/forums/p/135700/881314.aspx#881314 Mattillo, I know you have.
I share your observation for the African proverb. My father in an early teaching moment during my childhood taught me "reciprocity is the basis for relationship and builds friendship." I never forgot that.
Lets PUSH these great resources together, Moody Commentary, NJB, Catholic Encyclopedia and Encyclopaedia Biblica!
Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.
International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.
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On board, too! Love more translations.
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I don't understand this, but this one seem be to going backwards.
Are Logos holding this one back? Should be over the line by now...
The pre pub model is broken.
If you have not already bid for this please do!
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P A said:
If you have not already bid for this please do!
I'm one who has not yet bid. What are your top reasons to have this version in Logos?
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Dan has written on this in another thread. You may want to go through that one to see all the comments. I'm sure he will chime in on this thread as well. For the sake of convenience, I've copied Dan's reasons here: (quoting Dan)
Four reasons to get the NJB complete.
1) The NJB is quite simply a literary masterpiece. It communicates the Bible in a way that is hard to explain I remember one protestant minster telling me back in the early 90's that it was the most accurate translation since the KJV... Now one can take that statement as you will, but the truth of the matter is the quality of the translation and poetic stylings make this a work that speaks to ones soul. Without the notes you are left with singing and no music. The notes explain things give valuable references.
2) The notes indeed the entire project was done primarily by scholars living in the Holy Land at the École Bibliotech living there offers them insights that can easily be missed by those from away.
3)This work is widely respected not only by Roman Catholics but also many protestant bodies and even in non-religious circles as a good Bible to study and use for reference.
4)While used by many it is written from a catholic perspective although very little dogma ever makes it into the notes, the authors took seriously the wider canon and refer to it. For example quite often Paul's virtual quoting of the wisdom of solomon is over looked. The NJB notes do make note of this... That is not to try to say Paul believed Wis. to be scripture but it is nice to see where some of his quotations are coming from.
The lack of this full edition in Logos feels much like an orchestra missing a violin. Logos functions well without it but there is definitely something missing, please consider getting it, it may be the best $16 you have spent to expand the breadth of your logos library. If you are protestant if gives you a solid look into catholic scholarship, if you are RC is gives you one of the finest study Bibles the Catholic Church has ever produced. Thank you for your time and please have a blessed advent season.
-Dan
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Bruce Dunning said:P A said:
If you have not already bid for this please do!
I'm one who has not yet bid. What are your top reasons to have this version in Logos?
The NJB is one of the most important translations of the 20th century. You may well have the readers edition of NJB in your Library but to give you an idea since you not familiar with it. Imagine the NIV Study Bible was published first and the the translation was excised out of it with the bare minimal notes.
This is the full text:
1 At many moments in the past and by many means, God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets; 2 but in our time, the final days, a he has spoken to us in the person of his Son, b whom he appointed heir of all things c and through whom he made the ages. d 3 He is the reflection of God’s glory and bears the impress of God’s own being, e sustaining all things by his powerful command; and now that he has purged sins away, he has taken his seat at the right hand of the divine Majesty on high. 4 So he is now as far above the angels as the title which he has inherited is higher than their own name.
a. In the fullness of time, Mk 1:15; Ga 4:4c, the last times or the last days begin, Ac 2:17; 1 P 1:20.
b. After the prophets, God sends an envoy who is no longer a mere messenger like the others; he is ‘Son’, cf. Mk 12:2-6; Rm 1:4c, he is even the Word, Jn 1:1a, 14m.
c. To be a son implies having the right to inherit, cf. Mt 21:38, Ga 4:7. Here, however, God is credited with the handing over of the whole creation because the inheritance in question is messianic and eschatological.
d. Hebraism for the whole of creation.
e. These two metaphors are borrowed from the sophia and logos theologies of Alexandria, Ws 7:25-26; they express both the identity of nature between Father and Son, and the distinction of persons. The Son is the brightness, the light shining from its source, which is the bright glory, see Ex 24:16f, of the Father (‘Light from Light’). He is also the replica, see Col 1:15d, of the Father’s substance, like an exact impression made by a seal on clay or wax, cf. Jn 14:9.This is what the readers version we currently own in Logos provides:
1 At many moments in the past and by many means, God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets; but 2 in our time, the final days, he has spoken to us in the person of his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things and through whom he made the ages. 3 He is the reflection of God’s glory and bears the impress of God’s own being, * sustaining all things by his powerful command; and now that he has purged sins away, he has taken his seat at the right hand of the divine Majesty on high. 4 So he is now as far above the angels as the title which he has inherited is higher than their own name.
* cf. Ws 7:25–26.
The New Jerusalem Bible (New York: Doubleday, 1985), Heb 1:1–4.
This is an invaluable work that every scholar of the Bible should want in their library. For $15.99 it is one of the greatest bargains you will find in the Logos world. Please consider ordering it to help bring this work in it's fullness to Logos. It is in all respects a small but valuable little commentary. With many great insights.
-Dan
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Dan Francis said:Bruce Dunning said:P A said:
If you have not already bid for this please do!
I'm one who has not yet bid. What are your top reasons to have this version in Logos?
Wouldn't it be great if we could organise an international 'big push' for this?
I would be in.
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Mike Binks said:
Wouldn't it be great if we could organise an international 'big push' for this?
What do you mean by "international"? I guess Logos needs global availability in order to get the other half of the bidders.
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That's a big problem the U.K. Is one of the places it has it's biggest market, although I would dare say most of the English speaking world outside of the USA would consider it the default catholic choice for reading. The NAB is really only popular with American Catholics world wide the RSV (NRSV, somewhat as in Canada it is the preferred translation for the Catholic Church) or the JB/NJB Is considered the primary translation of choice. So not offering it internationally means you are aiming at the smallest market. I don't know his translation never took off better in the states it is one of the best translations out there, and it's notes are a gold mine of useful information. I can only hope that it can get made.
-dan
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Sad that I'm not allowed to get it, but I find it quite amusing that Catholic publishers are the only ones I've had issues with on this front. I'd have just assumed that they'd be the last group to struggle with lack of a central authority.
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Mike Binks said:
Wouldn't it be great if we could organise an international 'big push' for this?
Mike what is the point of an international push when international users are locked out from purchasing this title because of distribution rights restrictions. Faithlife is only allowed to sell this title to those in US Or Canada. This is not FL's fault but that of the publishing industry.
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Disciple of Christ (doc) said:Mike Binks said:
Wouldn't it be great if we could organise an international 'big push' for this?
Mike what is the point of an international push when international users are locked out from purchasing this title because of distribution rights restrictions. Faithlife is only allowed to sell this title to those in US Or Canada. This is not FL's fault but that of the publishing industry.
That is FL choice, Accordance has global distribution rights as does WORDsearch it is FL choice not to get international rights. Yes it requires two different contracts but it is very possible just depends on what FL wants to do, when I see the restrictions it feels to me that they feel a primary audience of North America and while that may well be it feels shortsighted.
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Can someone from Faithlife tells how many more bids are needed to push this one over the line?
Please give us some hope!
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Disciple of Christ (doc) said:Mike Binks said:
Wouldn't it be great if we could organise an international 'big push' for this?
Mike what is the point of an international push when international users are locked out from purchasing this title because of distribution rights restrictions. Faithlife is only allowed to sell this title to those in US Or Canada. This is not FL's fault but that of the publishing industry.
Yes DOC there is a corollary to the suggestion. I just didn't think it needed to be spelt out.
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Thanks Dan and others for taking time to explain why you think this is worth having. I see what you are saying but I am still not convinced that the notes are worth it since I already own the text itself.
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Well Bruce all I can suggest is looking at a hard copy, I maintain that the NJB without it's notes is like singing without music. I know the NJB is pretty awesome on its own but better with it's notes.
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