New Windows option in 7.9 to make Logos faster

In our efforts to improve the performance speed of the application we have added a new option that needs to be manually applied. This process should only be done once per software update (i.e. you do not need to do this again until 7.9 SR-1 or 7.10 is installed on your machine).

To run the new performance command line:

1. Run a Command Prompt for `[logosinstallpath]\Logos.exe /ngen`

2. Click on Yes for changes to be made on the pop-up

To undo this process:

1. Run a Command Prompt for `[logosinstallpath]\Logos.exe /unngen`

2. Click on Yes for changes to be made on the pop-up

There was some discussion during the beta period about this new feature, you can read more in this thread.

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DominicM

Ok, so is there any downside to doing this???

Andrew Batishko

Ok, so is there any downside to doing this???

The only "downside" to doing this is that you have to remember to do it manually after every update. There is no real trade-off here.

Matthew

Just to confirm, this is only for Windows, not Mac?

Dave Hooton

Just to confirm, this is only for Windows, not Mac?

It is only for Windows.

Frank Payne

What kind of increased performance are we looking at? 2 or 3 seconds faster startup or what?

Juanita

If this means users are doing a manual change to their registries on their machines EVERY TIME Logos updates the program--really?! Why not just fix it for users/customers so that the burden is not on them.

And the good news is I have an ssd so I have no complaints as to speed. But am thinking of others.

Dave Hooton

What kind of increased performance are we looking at? 2 or 3 seconds faster startup or what?

See http://community.logos.com/forums/p/147283/915274.aspx#915274 and other pages.

Mattillo

Will this yield any speed improvements for SSD users?

Andrew Batishko

If this means users are doing a manual change to their registries on their machines EVERY TIME Logos updates the program--really?! Why not just fix it for users/customers so that the burden is not on them.

And the good news is I have an ssd so I have no complaints as to speed. But am thinking of others.

Because the feature is still in progress. Expect more developments in the next release to make this not be a manual requirement. We figured it was better to ship the manual method now than wait on everything in a later release.

Andrew Batishko

Will this yield any speed improvements for SSD users?

Yes, it should, although not as dramatic. Pretty much there's no real reason not to enable this if you are willing to manually enable it with every update.

Jordan Litchfield

To run the new performance command line:

1. Run a Command Prompt for `[logosinstallpath]\Logos.exe /ngen`

Okay, please forgive my ignorance, but what is the exact command I paste into Command Prompt? I tried the whole above shabang and individual parts without any success. I'm sure it's pretty simple, but if someone can humour me...

JT (alabama24)

1. Run a Command Prompt for `[logosinstallpath]\Logos.exe /ngen`

what is the exact command I paste into Command Prompt?

I assume that IS the exact command... but you will have to change "[logosinstallpath]" to YOUR specific Logos install path. That will be unique to you, so it will be difficult for us to give you something to copy & paste. See Philana's screenshot above under that point for clarification.

Cesar Augusto Paiva

Not working for me! Guess I don't have ngen.exe on my instalation folder? Any ideas? I've already copied Philana's command line as it appears on the the tread

Justin Gatlin

Right click on your Logos shortcut.

Click Properties on the menu.

Copy the text in "target" (for me it is C:\Users\Pastor\AppData\Local\Logos\Logos.exe".

In the command prompt, paste that followed by " /ngen".

Hit enter.

Run Logos.

Be fast.

Be happy.

To add the refinement mentioned by Pieter, I would just open Notepad and paste the script (C:\Users\Pastor\AppData\Local\Logos\Logos.exe /ngen) into it and save it on the desktop as LogosSpeed.bat. From now on, you can double click that with each new Logos update to take advantage of the speed improvement.

SteveHD

Right click on your Logos shortcut.

Click Properties on the menu.

Copy the text in "target".

In the command prompt, paste that followed by " /ngen".

[Y] Thanks

Björn Pettersson

Thank you for that statement! Seems to be a faster startup btw! :-)

Alex Scott

Yes. I had the same problem trying to follow her command line. After several hours I finally got it to work when I found out where Logos.exe was located. Do a search for Logos.exe and then make sure your command line takes you there and try that. Mine wasn't under ...logos\logos.exe but under ...logos5\logos.exe

Cesar Augusto Paiva

Just that, but still doesn't work...

Bruce Junkermann

Is this for windows 10 only? I have windows 7...still.

Randy W. Sims

Just that, but still doesn't work...

Can you give more detail about what you've tried, the exact command? And what results you've had?

Marcel Kohlmeyer

I cannot get it to run. It keeps saying "The system cannot find the path specified."

You really need to make this easier and clearer. Very frustrating!

Dave Hooton

I cannot get it to run. It keeps saying "The system cannot find the path specified."

You really need to make this easier and clearer. Very frustrating!

What is the path you are using?

Marcel Kohlmeyer

`[logosinstallpath]\Logos.exe /ngen`

Randy W. Sims

`[logosinstallpath]\Logos.exe /ngen`

[logosinstallpath] should be replaced with the path to your logos directory where it was installed.

You can determine the path a number of ways.

Right click on your Logos shortcut.

Click Properties on the menu.

Copy the text in "target" (for me it is C:\Users\Pastor\AppData\Local\Logos\Logos.exe".

In the command prompt, paste that followed by " /ngen".

You can run a command prompt and execute the command:

REG QUERY HKCU\Software\Logos4\ /v InstallDirectory

Or...... here's a two minute hack, shamelessly stealing code from Faithlife's SmartTags script.

1682.LogosNGEN.zip

Unzip that script to your desktop. Right Click on it and select Run with Powershell. It will run the proper command for you.

Ben Collyer

I entered the command and it just booted Logos. there was no "do you want to allow this to make changes?" prompt

Bill Cook

Yes, it is as slow or slower for me, too. I certainly can detect no speedier startup.

Dave Hooton

You really need to make this easier and clearer. Very frustrating!

That's the message from this thread, and Faithlife is working on it.

Kevin Mitchell

How will I know when I no longer need to apply this manual update. We're at 7.15 now ... has this speed improvement been built in yet? How will we be notified that it has so we can stop running the ngen etc.?

Mark

How will I know when I no longer need to apply this manual update. We're at 7.15 now ... has this speed improvement been built in yet? How will we be notified that it has so we can stop running the ngen etc.?

I have a similar question. What happens if we apply the manual update more than once though we do not need to?

Bill Cook

I believe every new update now auto-initiates the ngen command.

Dave Hooton

How will I know when I no longer need to apply this manual update. We're at 7.15 now ... has this speed improvement been built in yet? How will we be notified that it has so we can stop running the ngen etc.?

Use the command Set Use Ngen to Yes and restart Logos (No is the default).

Mark

Dave

In L8, LogosSpeed.bat and LogosSpeed.cmd still appear in my Logos folder. Can they now be deleted?

Mark Smith

Yes.