New Windows option in 7.9 to make Logos faster
In our efforts to improve the performance speed of the application we have added a new option that needs to be manually applied. This process should only be done once per software update (i.e. you do not need to do this again until 7.9 SR-1 or 7.10 is installed on your machine).
To run the new performance command line:
1. Run a Command Prompt for `[logosinstallpath]\Logos.exe /ngen`
2. Click on Yes for changes to be made on the pop-up
To undo this process:
1. Run a Command Prompt for `[logosinstallpath]\Logos.exe /unngen`
2. Click on Yes for changes to be made on the pop-up
There was some discussion during the beta period about this new feature, you can read more in this thread.
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Ok, so is there any downside to doing this???
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DominicM said:
Ok, so is there any downside to doing this???
The only "downside" to doing this is that you have to remember to do it manually after every update. There is no real trade-off here.
Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer
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Just to confirm, this is only for Windows, not Mac?
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Dave
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What kind of increased performance are we looking at? 2 or 3 seconds faster startup or what?
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If this means users are doing a manual change to their registries on their machines EVERY TIME Logos updates the program--really?! Why not just fix it for users/customers so that the burden is not on them.
And the good news is I have an ssd so I have no complaints as to speed. But am thinking of others.
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Frank Payne said:
What kind of increased performance are we looking at? 2 or 3 seconds faster startup or what?
See http://community.logos.com/forums/p/147283/915274.aspx#915274 and other pages.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Will this yield any speed improvements for SSD users?
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Juanita said:
If this means users are doing a manual change to their registries on their machines EVERY TIME Logos updates the program--really?! Why not just fix it for users/customers so that the burden is not on them.
And the good news is I have an ssd so I have no complaints as to speed. But am thinking of others.
Because the feature is still in progress. Expect more developments in the next release to make this not be a manual requirement. We figured it was better to ship the manual method now than wait on everything in a later release.
Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer
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Mattillo said:
Will this yield any speed improvements for SSD users?
Yes, it should, although not as dramatic. Pretty much there's no real reason not to enable this if you are willing to manually enable it with every update.
Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer
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I don't think ngen.exe is on my PC.
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For those that want to use a quick link from logos to do this:
1) Create a *.bat file in the logos.exe directory.
2) Paste this inside file
%~dp0\Logos /ngen
3) Save
4) Create a link in logos on toolbar
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Philana R. Crouch said:
To run the new performance command line:
1. Run a Command Prompt for `[logosinstallpath]\Logos.exe /ngen`
Okay, please forgive my ignorance, but what is the exact command I paste into Command Prompt? I tried the whole above shabang and individual parts without any success. I'm sure it's pretty simple, but if someone can humour me...
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Philana R. Crouch said:
1. Run a Command Prompt for `[logosinstallpath]\Logos.exe /ngen`
Jordan Litchfield said:what is the exact command I paste into Command Prompt?
I assume that IS the exact command... but you will have to change "[logosinstallpath]" to YOUR specific Logos install path. That will be unique to you, so it will be difficult for us to give you something to copy & paste. See Philana's screenshot above under that point for clarification.
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Not working for me! Guess I don't have ngen.exe on my instalation folder? Any ideas? I've already copied Philana's command line as it appears on the the tread
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Right click on your Logos shortcut.
Click Properties on the menu.
Copy the text in "target" (for me it is C:\Users\Pastor\AppData\Local\Logos\Logos.exe".
In the command prompt, paste that followed by " /ngen".
Hit enter.
Run Logos.
Be fast.
Be happy.
To add the refinement mentioned by Pieter, I would just open Notepad and paste the script (C:\Users\Pastor\AppData\Local\Logos\Logos.exe /ngen) into it and save it on the desktop as LogosSpeed.bat. From now on, you can double click that with each new Logos update to take advantage of the speed improvement.
Using Logos as a pastor, seminary professor, and Tyndale author
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Justin Gatlin said:
Right click on your Logos shortcut.
Click Properties on the menu.
Copy the text in "target".
In the command prompt, paste that followed by " /ngen".
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Thank you for that statement! Seems to be a faster startup btw! :-)
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That statement = it will be automated in coming versions.
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Yes. I had the same problem trying to follow her command line. After several hours I finally got it to work when I found out where Logos.exe was located. Do a search for Logos.exe and then make sure your command line takes you there and try that. Mine wasn't under ...logos\logos.exe but under ...logos5\logos.exe
Longtime Logos user (more than $30,000 in purchases) - now a second class user because I won't pay them more every month or year.
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Just that, but still doesn't work...
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Is this for windows 10 only? I have windows 7...still.
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Cesar Augusto Paiva said:
Just that, but still doesn't work...
Can you give more detail about what you've tried, the exact command? And what results you've had?
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Tried multiple ways. A different UAC window pops up. Running Win 10 Pro. Popup does not say ngen.exe. It says something else. I don't recall now.
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Bill Cook said:
Tried multiple ways. A different UAC window pops up. Running Win 10 Pro. Popup does not say ngen.exe. It says something else. I don't recall now.
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We'll need more info on the command you used and what the popup said. It should say ngen.exe. Other than the UAC, you will see no other indication. Logos will launch normally.
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Thank you for the instructions to make Logos faster.
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Sure! I've tried the exact syntax of the original thread, changing my Logos.exe location as instructions, but only had an error message.
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Cesar Augusto Paiva said:
Sure! I've tried the exact syntax of the original thread, changing my Logos.exe location as instructions, but only had an error message.
Screenshots?
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Here is the command I run-
"C:\Users\bcook\AppData\Local\Logos\Logos.exe" /ngen
Here is a screenshot of the UAC
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I cannot get it to run. It keeps saying "The system cannot find the path specified."
You really need to make this easier and clearer. Very frustrating!
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Marcel Kohlmeyer said:
I cannot get it to run. It keeps saying "The system cannot find the path specified."
You really need to make this easier and clearer. Very frustrating!
What is the path you are using?
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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`[logosinstallpath]\Logos.exe /ngen`
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Bill Cook said:
Here is the command I run-
"C:\Users\bcook\AppData\Local\Logos\Logos.exe" /ngen
Here is a screenshot of the UAC
Mine shows a ngen.exe, but I believe that you are running it correctly and it is working correctly. You can see the exact command by clicking the "Show more details" link in that UAC dialog. But it looks like it's working as intended.
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Marcel Kohlmeyer said:
`[logosinstallpath]\Logos.exe /ngen`
[logosinstallpath] should be replaced with the path to your logos directory where it was installed.
You can determine the path a number of ways.
Justin Gatlin said:Right click on your Logos shortcut.
Click Properties on the menu.
Copy the text in "target" (for me it is C:\Users\Pastor\AppData\Local\Logos\Logos.exe".
In the command prompt, paste that followed by " /ngen".
You can run a command prompt and execute the command:
REG QUERY HKCU\Software\Logos4\ /v InstallDirectory
Or...... here's a two minute hack, shamelessly stealing code from Faithlife's SmartTags script.
Unzip that script to your desktop. Right Click on it and select Run with Powershell. It will run the proper command for you.
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Unlike others here, I have found running "ngen" to consistently cause my startup to be slower than it was before, both from a fresh boot and from restarts within a boot (faster because of cache). I am keeping it off.
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Douglas Miller said:
Unlike others here, I have found running "ngen" to consistently cause my startup to be slower than it was before, both from a fresh boot and from restarts within a boot (faster because of cache). I am keeping it off.
Likewise. Is there a reason for this?
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I entered the command and it just booted Logos. there was no "do you want to allow this to make changes?" prompt
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Yes, it is as slow or slower for me, too. I certainly can detect no speedier startup.
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Justin Gatlin said:
Right click on your Logos shortcut.
Click Properties on the menu.
Copy the text in "target" (for me it is C:\Users\Pastor\AppData\Local\Logos\Logos.exe".
In the command prompt, paste that followed by " /ngen".
Visually if it helps. Right click on that icon anywhere you see it and assuming it opens Logos.
When Properties opens, the text you want should be highlighted and ready to copy so use ctrl-C
In the Windows System Command Prompt window right click your mouse and that should paste the text.
Add /ngen
Hit Enter
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Thank you! This was very helpful!
I have restarted the program about 3 times. The first time, there was no difference in speed. The second and third time it loaded within 5-10 seconds.
Thank you again! God's blessings on your day!
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Those of you who are seeing no improvement or worse startup times, are you starting up the application every time using the new command line parameter (you should only be running the command once)?
Also, I would not expect to see any improvement the first time you start up (and in fact could be slower as your system is doing additional work in the background to prepare for future startups). You'll have to wait for 30 seconds or so after starting up with the additional parameter before you see any improvement on subsequent startups.Something like this:
Marcel Kohlmeyer said:I have restarted the program about 3 times. The first time, there was no difference in speed. The second and third time it loaded within 5-10 seconds.
Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer
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Yup,
That's the missing ingredient.
Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.
International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.
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I restarted my computer, the program, etc. multiple times. But, I will try again... Then, Logos crashed and produced an error log... I'll include it later.
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Bill Cook said:
I restarted my computer, the program, etc. multiple times. But, I will try again... Then, Logos crashed and produced an error log... I'll include it later.
You don't need to restart your computer. I found it essential to follow Andrew's advice above explicitly. In addition, Justin's instructions below add to the facility of the process.
Justin Gatlin said:To add the refinement mentioned by Pieter, I would just open Notepad and paste the script (C:\Users\Pastor\AppData\Local\Logos\Logos.exe /ngen) into it and save it on the desktop as LogosSpeed.bat. From now on, you can double click that with each new Logos update to take advantage of the speed improvement.
Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.
International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.
MacBook Pro MacOS Sequoia 15.4 1TB SSD
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Beloved said:Justin Gatlin said:
To add the refinement mentioned by Pieter, I would just open Notepad and paste the script (C:\Users\Pastor\AppData\Local\Logos\Logos.exe /ngen) into it and save it on the desktop as LogosSpeed.bat. From now on, you can double click that with each new Logos update to take advantage of the speed improvement.
This is what worked for me. Doing the way that was suggested did not produce better speed. But creating the .bat file did. For those who create the .bat file, once you run it, be sure to wait for the program to finish. For me, when the program finished, it immediately opened up Logos. After I closed it and opened it again, the speed was better
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Marcel Kohlmeyer said:
You really need to make this easier and clearer. Very frustrating!
That's the message from this thread, and Faithlife is working on it.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Mark said:
You can drag the icon of the .bat file to the Logos shortcut bar; which is on the right side of the Command box.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Thanks. That works
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