New Windows option in 7.9 to make Logos faster

In our efforts to improve the performance speed of the application we have added a new option that needs to be manually applied. This process should only be done once per software update (i.e. you do not need to do this again until 7.9 SR-1 or 7.10 is installed on your machine).

To run the new performance command line:

1. Run a Command Prompt for `[logosinstallpath]\Logos.exe /ngen`

2. Click on Yes for changes to be made on the pop-up

To undo this process:

1. Run a Command Prompt for `[logosinstallpath]\Logos.exe /unngen`

2. Click on Yes for changes to be made on the pop-up

There was some discussion during the beta period about this new feature, you can read more in this thread.

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DominicM

Ok, so is there any downside to doing this???

Andrew Batishko

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920304#Comment_920304

Ok, so is there any downside to doing this???

The only "downside" to doing this is that you have to remember to do it manually after every update. There is no real trade-off here.

Matthew

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920313#Comment_920313

Just to confirm, this is only for Windows, not Mac?

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920316#Comment_920316

Just to confirm, this is only for Windows, not Mac?

It is only for Windows.

Matthew

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920323#Comment_920323

Just to confirm, this is only for Windows, not Mac?

It is only for Windows.

Thanks Dave.

Frank Payne

What kind of increased performance are we looking at? 2 or 3 seconds faster startup or what?

Juanita

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920341#Comment_920341

If this means users are doing a manual change to their registries on their machines EVERY TIME Logos updates the program--really?! Why not just fix it for users/customers so that the burden is not on them.

And the good news is I have an ssd so I have no complaints as to speed. But am thinking of others.

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920341#Comment_920341

What kind of increased performance are we looking at? 2 or 3 seconds faster startup or what?

See http://community.logos.com/forums/p/147283/915274.aspx#915274 and other pages.

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920350#Comment_920350

Will this yield any speed improvements for SSD users?

Andrew Batishko

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920344#Comment_920344

If this means users are doing a manual change to their registries on their machines EVERY TIME Logos updates the program--really?! Why not just fix it for users/customers so that the burden is not on them.

And the good news is I have an ssd so I have no complaints as to speed. But am thinking of others.

Because the feature is still in progress. Expect more developments in the next release to make this not be a manual requirement. We figured it was better to ship the manual method now than wait on everything in a later release.

Andrew Batishko

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920356#Comment_920356

Will this yield any speed improvements for SSD users?

Yes, it should, although not as dramatic. Pretty much there's no real reason not to enable this if you are willing to manually enable it with every update.

Bill Cook

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920358#Comment_920358

I don't think ngen.exe is on my PC.

Pieter J.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920379#Comment_920379

For those that want to use a quick link from logos to do this:

1) Create a *.bat file in the logos.exe directory.

2) Paste this inside file

%~dp0\Logos /ngen

3) Save

4) Create a link in logos on toolbar

Jordan Litchfield

To run the new performance command line:

1. Run a Command Prompt for `[logosinstallpath]\Logos.exe /ngen`

Okay, please forgive my ignorance, but what is the exact command I paste into Command Prompt? I tried the whole above shabang and individual parts without any success. I'm sure it's pretty simple, but if someone can humour me...

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920409#Comment_920409

1. Run a Command Prompt for `[logosinstallpath]\Logos.exe /ngen`

what is the exact command I paste into Command Prompt?

I assume that IS the exact command... but you will have to change "[logosinstallpath]" to YOUR specific Logos install path. That will be unique to you, so it will be difficult for us to give you something to copy & paste. See Philana's screenshot above under that point for clarification.

Cesar Augusto Paiva

Not working for me! Guess I don't have ngen.exe on my instalation folder? Any ideas? I've already copied Philana's command line as it appears on the the tread

Justin Gatlin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920409#Comment_920409

Right click on your Logos shortcut.

Click Properties on the menu.

Copy the text in "target" (for me it is C:\Users\Pastor\AppData\Local\Logos\Logos.exe".

In the command prompt, paste that followed by " /ngen".

Hit enter.

Run Logos.

Be fast.

Be happy.

To add the refinement mentioned by Pieter, I would just open Notepad and paste the script (C:\Users\Pastor\AppData\Local\Logos\Logos.exe /ngen) into it and save it on the desktop as LogosSpeed.bat. From now on, you can double click that with each new Logos update to take advantage of the speed improvement.

SteveHD

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920419#Comment_920419

Right click on your Logos shortcut.

Click Properties on the menu.

Copy the text in "target".

In the command prompt, paste that followed by " /ngen".

[Y] Thanks

Björn Pettersson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920357#Comment_920357

Thank you for that statement! Seems to be a faster startup btw! :-)

Björn Pettersson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920427#Comment_920427

That statement = it will be automated in coming versions.

Alex Scott

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920418#Comment_920418

Yes. I had the same problem trying to follow her command line. After several hours I finally got it to work when I found out where Logos.exe was located. Do a search for Logos.exe and then make sure your command line takes you there and try that. Mine wasn't under ...logos\logos.exe but under ...logos5\logos.exe

Cesar Augusto Paiva

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920419#Comment_920419

Just that, but still doesn't work...

Bruce Junkermann

Is this for windows 10 only? I have windows 7...still.

Randy W. Sims

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920440#Comment_920440

Just that, but still doesn't work...

Can you give more detail about what you've tried, the exact command? And what results you've had?

Bill Cook

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920455#Comment_920455

Tried multiple ways. A different UAC window pops up. Running Win 10 Pro. Popup does not say ngen.exe. It says something else. I don't recall now.

But, it does something very quickly then Logos opens just as slowly as normal -

Randy W. Sims

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920481#Comment_920481

Tried multiple ways. A different UAC window pops up. Running Win 10 Pro. Popup does not say ngen.exe. It says something else. I don't recall now.

But, it does something very quickly then Logos opens just as slowly as normal -

We'll need more info on the command you used and what the popup said. It should say ngen.exe. Other than the UAC, you will see no other indication. Logos will launch normally.

Richard Milbrandt

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920427#Comment_920427

Thank you for the instructions to make Logos faster.

Cesar Augusto Paiva

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920455#Comment_920455

Sure! I've tried the exact syntax of the original thread, changing my Logos.exe location as instructions, but only had an error message.

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920549#Comment_920549

Sure! I've tried the exact syntax of the original thread, changing my Logos.exe location as instructions, but only had an error message.

Screenshots?

Bill Cook

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920495#Comment_920495

Here is the command I run-

"C:\Users\bcook\AppData\Local\Logos\Logos.exe" /ngen

Here is a screenshot of the UAC

Marcel Kohlmeyer

I cannot get it to run. It keeps saying "The system cannot find the path specified."

You really need to make this easier and clearer. Very frustrating!

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920582#Comment_920582

I cannot get it to run. It keeps saying "The system cannot find the path specified."

You really need to make this easier and clearer. Very frustrating!

What is the path you are using?

Marcel Kohlmeyer

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920584#Comment_920584

`[logosinstallpath]\Logos.exe /ngen`

Randy W. Sims

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920581#Comment_920581

Here is the command I run-

"C:\Users\bcook\AppData\Local\Logos\Logos.exe" /ngen

Here is a screenshot of the UAC

Mine shows a ngen.exe, but I believe that you are running it correctly and it is working correctly. You can see the exact command by clicking the "Show more details" link in that UAC dialog. But it looks like it's working as intended.

Randy W. Sims

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920585#Comment_920585

`[logosinstallpath]\Logos.exe /ngen`

[logosinstallpath] should be replaced with the path to your logos directory where it was installed.

You can determine the path a number of ways.

Right click on your Logos shortcut.

Click Properties on the menu.

Copy the text in "target" (for me it is C:\Users\Pastor\AppData\Local\Logos\Logos.exe".

In the command prompt, paste that followed by " /ngen".

You can run a command prompt and execute the command:

REG QUERY HKCU\Software\Logos4\ /v InstallDirectory

Or...... here's a two minute hack, shamelessly stealing code from Faithlife's SmartTags script.

1682.LogosNGEN.zip

Unzip that script to your desktop. Right Click on it and select Run with Powershell. It will run the proper command for you.

Douglas Miller

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920427#Comment_920427

Unlike others here, I have found running "ngen" to consistently cause my startup to be slower than it was before, both from a fresh boot and from restarts within a boot (faster because of cache). I am keeping it off.

Beloved Amodeo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920621#Comment_920621

Unlike others here, I have found running "ngen" to consistently cause my startup to be slower than it was before, both from a fresh boot and from restarts within a boot (faster because of cache). I am keeping it off.

Likewise. Is there a reason for this?

Ben Collyer

I entered the command and it just booted Logos. there was no "do you want to allow this to make changes?" prompt

Bill Cook

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920631#Comment_920631

Yes, it is as slow or slower for me, too. I certainly can detect no speedier startup.

SteveHD

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920597#Comment_920597

Right click on your Logos shortcut.

Click Properties on the menu.

Copy the text in "target" (for me it is C:\Users\Pastor\AppData\Local\Logos\Logos.exe".

In the command prompt, paste that followed by " /ngen".

Visually if it helps. Right click on that icon anywhere you see it and assuming it opens Logos.

When Properties opens, the text you want should be highlighted and ready to copy so use ctrl-C

In the Windows System Command Prompt window right click your mouse and that should paste the text.

Add /ngen

Hit Enter

Marcel Kohlmeyer

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920660#Comment_920660

Thank you! This was very helpful!

I have restarted the program about 3 times. The first time, there was no difference in speed. The second and third time it loaded within 5-10 seconds.

Thank you again! God's blessings on your day!

Andrew Batishko

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920667#Comment_920667

Those of you who are seeing no improvement or worse startup times, are you starting up the application every time using the new command line parameter (you should only be running the command once)?

Also, I would not expect to see any improvement the first time you start up (and in fact could be slower as your system is doing additional work in the background to prepare for future startups). You'll have to wait for 30 seconds or so after starting up with the additional parameter before you see any improvement on subsequent startups.

Something like this:

I have restarted the program about 3 times. The first time, there was no difference in speed. The second and third time it loaded within 5-10 seconds.

Beloved Amodeo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920675#Comment_920675

Yup,

That's the missing ingredient.

Bill Cook

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920675#Comment_920675

I restarted my computer, the program, etc. multiple times. But, I will try again... Then, Logos crashed and produced an error log... I'll include it later.

Beloved Amodeo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920718#Comment_920718

I restarted my computer, the program, etc. multiple times. But, I will try again... Then, Logos crashed and produced an error log... I'll include it later.

You don't need to restart your computer. I found it essential to follow Andrew's advice above explicitly. In addition, Justin's instructions below add to the facility of the process.

Mark

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920720#Comment_920720

To add the refinement mentioned by Pieter, I would just open Notepad and paste the script (C:\Users\Pastor\AppData\Local\Logos\Logos.exe /ngen) into it and save it on the desktop as LogosSpeed.bat. From now on, you can double click that with each new Logos update to take advantage of the speed improvement.

This is what worked for me. Doing the way that was suggested did not produce better speed. But creating the .bat file did. For those who create the .bat file, once you run it, be sure to wait for the program to finish. For me, when the program finished, it immediately opened up Logos. After I closed it and opened it again, the speed was better

Mark

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920389#Comment_920389

4) Create a link in logos on toolbar

How do you do that?

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920582#Comment_920582

You really need to make this easier and clearer. Very frustrating!

That's the message from this thread, and Faithlife is working on it.

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920724#Comment_920724

4) Create a link in logos on toolbar

How do you do that?

You can drag the icon of the .bat file to the Logos shortcut bar; which is on the right side of the Command box.

Mark

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/920727#Comment_920727

Thanks. That works