I'm sorry to ask again...Can you help me with this search?
I feel badly that I'm always asking help for searches, but I really stink at them. Anything more than the basic search and I'm stumped.
Anyway, here's what I need.
I need all the verses in the Old Testament where God is the speaker to Israel (or any representative of Israel) and He uses the word everlasting OR eternal OR forever (or anything else along those lines) AND covenant.
Please...and thank you!
Cynthia
Romans 8:28-38
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Hi Cynthia
Cynthia in Florida said:I need all the verses in the Old Testament where God is the speaker to Israel (or any representative of Israel) and He uses the word everlasting OR eternal OR forever (or anything else along those lines) AND covenant.
Adding the Addressee constraint complicates it - would need to look at different ways of referring to the people of Israel.
So you end up with something like:
{Speaker <Person God>} AND covenant AND (everlasting OR eternal OR forever) AND {Addressee <Person Israelites>}
which gives:
I would suggest removing the addressee constraint - this still only ends up with 12 verses so relatively easy to check through
Hope this helps, Graham
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An initial search could be:
<Sense covenant> INTERSECTS {Speaker <Person God>}
that could be refined with time senses:
Used results from initial search to find verses with everlasting, eternal, ... so could look up Bible Sense. Everlasting in Genesis 9:16 has sense of prepetuity, which is a child of <Sense length(time)>
Everlasting in Genesis 17:7 has sense of forever (future) that is a child of <Sense time>
Initial search found 105 verses while refined search found 13 verses. Noted Hebrews 8:8 has new covenant so could expand search:
After taking screen shot for illustration, saved search in Favorites (dragged tab to desired folder) for future reference.
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Noted Hebrews 8:8 has new covenant so could expand search:
Modified search to include Isaiah 59:21 (found 22 verses):
Keep Smiling [:)]
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KS4J, why aren't you working for FL? [:O]
I really appreciate how you can come up with all sorts of ways to search for specific questions.
Do you always use the search box? Is faceted browsing able to help or handle queries like this?
Would love to see some interactive tutorials on how to construct faceted searches, step by step.
If not working for them, how about compiling a collection of your best examples (or walking through some of them on YouTube)?
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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PetahChristian said:
If not working for them, how about compiling a collection of your best examples (or walking through some of them on YouTube)?
Ditto! This would be great!
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Graham: Thanks so much for your help! You are always so kind to respond! Yes, it does help!
Cynthia
Romans 8:28-38
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KS4J: Thank you for your search strings. I am going to try them too. I do have a question though... what is "time sense?" Why would I include it in my search? THANK YOU again for all your help. You do give different ways of searching, which helps a lot!
Cynthia
Romans 8:28-38
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Cynthia in Florida said:
I do have a question though... what is "time sense?"
<Sense time> in Biblical Word Senses Dataset has many relevant children for eternal, everlasting search:
Logos 6 added Bible Sense Lexicon search => New Search Data Types: Factbook and Sense
Thread => LOUW NIDA VS BIBLE SENSE LEXICON includes a reply with:
Thankful for Faithlife creating and expanding Bible Sense Lexicon, which is usable in all Bible Books => A Louw-Nida equivalent for Hebrew and => Does "Bible Sense Lexicon" track with Louw-Nida Semantic Domains ?
Thankful for many friendly forum discussions: have learned a lot plus have a lot to learn. Thread => TIP of the day: meaning and classification of words includes some Bible Sense Lexicon (BSL) and Louw-Nida insights.
Keep Smiling [:)]
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Richard Villanueva said:PetahChristian said:
If not working for them, how about compiling a collection of your best examples (or walking through some of them on YouTube)?
Ditto! This would be great!
Any particular search questions ?
For example, discipleship articles in Application collection
Praying for what work God wants me to do for His Glory (dreaming of part time work while pursuing M.Div. degree).
Thankful can search forums for previous discussions:
site:community.logos.com smiling search
Thankful for Faithlife group => https://faithlife.com/advanced-searching/activity
Personal favorite saved searches are visual filters: e.g. thread more inductive symbols and Logos wiki =>
FYI: my Favorites has many saved searches from friendly forum discussions: have learned a lot plus have a lot to learn. Recently created Faithlife Group => https://faithlife.com/spiritual-sheep-study-and-sing/activity that could include discussion of search and study results. For forum replies, focus on how to use Logos/Verbum Bible Software.
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