Small Caps Font

I want to talk to the congregation about the words...

Lord, LORD and (small caps)

However of the fonts that I have tried in Proclaim I cannot find a font that makes setting small caps noticeable.

Please will somebody point me in the right direction?

tootle pip

Mike

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Comments

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    The small caps feature works with only a tiny number of fonts for some reason. BPreplay, Carrois Gothic and CMG Sans all work. I'm sure you could find others.

    I use unicode with a custom uploaded version of Lato which is the clearest option I've found.

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  • Mike Binks
    Mike Binks MVP Posts: 7,456

    Thanks again for the help Mark.

    The three fonts you suggest don't show any appreciable change on my system and when I tried the generator all I got on the presentation screen was 'L' followed by three boxes.

    I guess I will skip my pearls of wisdom on this subject this week and revisit the problem after Sunday.

    tootle pip

    Mike

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  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    The three fonts you suggest don't show any appreciable change on my system

    You need to make sure you've typing "Lord" (initial uppercase, then lowercase) before you press the AllCaps button. Your screenshot doesn't look like you've done that (unless there's a Mac bug, perhaps).

    when I tried the generator all I got on the presentation screen was 'L' followed by three boxes.

    Did you upload your own version of Lato? That's required for these extended unicode characters.

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  • Jordan Sjodin
    Jordan Sjodin Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 979

    Looks good for me? this is CMGSans (whoops didn't capitalize the first Lord)

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  • Mike Binks
    Mike Binks MVP Posts: 7,456

    Thank you Jordon and thank you Mark.

    I wonder if there should be some attention given to this button. While the significance of the word 'Lord' is often glossed over and taken for granted it does have a special meaning and I think some effort should be made to maintain the word forms in the original print editions. This should apply to both the font in the 'On Screen Bible' and when using 'Bible Slides'.

    Improvement suggestions.

    • add small caps to the 'On Screen Bible' font.
    • change the small caps button to ensure it works with entries that are likely to be typed in.
    • LORD
    • Lord
    • and lord (this last one I might suggest would be the least likely to be entered and so clicking the button is most likely to fail)
    • mark the fonts in the font list with an indication of which fonts have small caps capability (Asterisk, 'TT' or colour of name)

    I note that the button behaves much better if switched on before typing the word but perhaps this is not the most likely way folk will approach their text entry?

    tootle pip

    Mike

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  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    • change the small caps button to ensure it works with entries that are likely to be typed in.
    • LORD
    • Lord
    • and lord

    Forgive me, but you still seem to be confused about how small caps works. It only has effect on lowercase letters. It leaves uppercase letters alone, and converts lowercase letters into half-height uppercase letters. In other words, to get Lᴏʀᴅ, you have to write Lord and apply smallcaps. Small caps will have no effect on "LORD", and the only effect it will have on "lord" will just look like a smaller version of "LORD" (e.g. ʟᴏʀᴅ).

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  • Mike Binks
    Mike Binks MVP Posts: 7,456

    Forgive me,

    My son you are forgiven. :-)

    I am beginning to understand how it works Mark, however it has taken me some time to get this far and, if it has taken me this long, I think it is likely to be a problem for the silent majority who just give up and move on.

    My suggestion is that instead of only being able to write Lord and have it convert. It ought to convert lord and (for me most naturally) LORD as well. In addition this should work whether the button is clicked before typing or after the word is input and highlighted

    tootle pip

    Mike

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  • Randy
    Randy Member Posts: 99 ✭✭

    ...You need to make sure you've typing "Lord" (initial uppercase, then lowercase) before you press the AllCaps button.

    How do you access the "Allcaps" button (Windows 10)? I was using the sermon editor in Logos 9, and somehow I hit some key combination that made a word with small capital letters after the initial capital letter:

    I have no idea what keys I hit to cause that to happen, and I still can't get it to go back to he regular characters.

    How can you switch back and forth between regular lowercase and small caps?

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,015

    Hi Randy - and welcome to the forums

    Randy said:

    How can you switch back and forth between regular lowercase and small caps?

    Ctrl-Shift-K is used to toggle between small caps and lowercase.

    If that doesn't resolve it I suggest you start a new thread in the Logos 9 desktop forum (this is an old thread discussing some details of Proclaim)

  • Randy
    Randy Member Posts: 99 ✭✭

    Hi Randy - and welcome to the forums

    Randy said:

    How can you switch back and forth between regular lowercase and small caps?

    Ctrl-Shift-K is used to toggle between small caps and lowercase.

    If that doesn't resolve it I suggest you start a new thread in the Logos 9 desktop forum (this is an old thread discussing some details of Proclaim)

    Yes, that Ctrl-Shift-K works if you're in Word. It didn't seem to change the text in the sermon builder. I'll start another thread in the Logos 9 desktop forum.

    Thanks.