BUG: Tyndale commentaries & parrallel resources

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David Gullick | Forum Activity | Posted: Sun, Jul 25 2010 4:07 PM | Locked

I'm not sure if this is related to this beta or not, as I've only just made the purchase.

I bought the Tyndale Commentaries (49 volumes), and they show up in my passage guide collections for Top Commentaries and Commentaries, but they do not show in parallel resources.

Can someone who has this series check to see if its beta related or do I have a unique bug?

 

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PL | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 25 2010 6:17 PM | Locked

It seems to be showing fine for me.  I'm on 4.1 beta 2.

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steve clark | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 25 2010 6:21 PM | Locked

don't know if this will help, but here are some things to check

Why don’t I see my Collection in Parallel Resources?

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David Gullick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 25 2010 6:41 PM | Locked

Thanks for the response. I didn't see anything in the link that helped me out. 

Any other ideas? Why would it occur in my PG collections,but not in parrallel resources?

Also - If I am in one of the Tyndale Commentaries, parallel resources shows my other commentaries...strange??

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steve clark | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 25 2010 6:43 PM | Locked

was the commentary that you originally were in, in the same collection as your new Tyndale commentary?

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steve clark | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 25 2010 6:57 PM | Locked

a) sometimes commentaries are indexed differently. i could not get the BKC to show other collections when in John 1:1-28. So i selected the one showing and it still did not show other collections. So i changed the reference to Matt and wala the other collections appeared.

b) also don't forget to look for page numbers at the bottom of the PR drop down.

 

So try changing reference to a broader range or different books and see if your Tyndale collection shows up. At least you can understand how L4 has indexed it.

 

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David Gullick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 25 2010 7:23 PM | Locked

I don't have pages in PR, don't know how you got them? See image below.

 

 

 

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steve clark | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 25 2010 7:32 PM | Locked

In your collection Top Commentaries i don't see the Tyndale commentaries. Could you show a screen shot of Top Commentary collection. (btw are you expecting the Tyndale comm to be in that collection or are you expecting a different collection?)

i see in the PG that you have it. i don't see the Tyndale NT in the PR for either the collection or parallel resources. Try going the other way around, open the Tyndale commentary to Matthew 1:1 and then see what shows in the PR drop down from it.

i looked in the metadata wiki page, to my understanding it looks OK.

the MacArthur Study Bible seems to be indexed as a commentary (in your PR it shows other commentaries).

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 25 2010 9:27 PM | Locked

David Gullick:

Any other ideas? Why would it occur in my PG collections,but not in parrallel resources?

Your PG Collections section will show any Matthew reference that is in any Tyndale commentary, not just in the Matthew volume which is what PR attempts to do ie. PR is looking for the article that discusses the reference. So I would suggest you put your commentaries collections in multiple Commentaries sections of the PG to get the same sort of results.  Use a specific reference like Matt 2:3-5 and see if Tyndale appears in the PG or PR (parallel resources).

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David Gullick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 25 2010 10:35 PM | Locked

steve clark:
i see in the PG that you have it. i don't see the Tyndale NT in the PR for either the collection or parallel resources. Try going the other way around, open the Tyndale commentary to Matthew 1:1 and then see what shows in the PR drop down from it.

I can look at Matthew 1:1 in the Tyndale commentary, PR (including showing top commentaries) shows my commentaries as expected. I select the Pillar Commentary on Matthew 1:1 from PR no problem. But clicking on PR again and  the Tyndale Commentary doesn't come up.

Metadata seems good for the Matthew volume looking its details in My Library.  (The 2 Peter and Jude Volume isn't tagged as Tyndale Commentary series though which needs to be fixed)

steve clark:
the MacArthur Study Bible seems to be indexed as a commentary (in your PR it shows other commentaries).

It is shown as "type:bible commentary" in my library.

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David Gullick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 25 2010 11:06 PM | Locked

Ok, so I'll try rebuilding my index, as perhaps that is my problem.

Notice the yellow three yellow boxes.   Notice the four red boxes.   The commentary doesn't show in my PG all commentaries (you can see all of my commentaries), and it doesn't show in PR either.

 

 

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David Gullick | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 26 2010 5:30 AM | Locked

rebuilt index, problem remains.

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steve clark | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 26 2010 8:20 AM | Locked

David Gullick:
I can look at Matthew 1:1 in the Tyndale commentary, PR (including showing top commentaries) shows my commentaries as expected. I select the Pillar Commentary on Matthew 1:1 from PR no problem. But clicking on PR again and  the Tyndale Commentary doesn't come up.

this is interesting. i would like to see a screen shot of the Tyndale commentary (with Mt 1:1) showing the PR drop down list.

also when you are in the MacArthur Study Bible NASB, i can only see a few of the commentaries in the PR drop down under All Parallel Resources. Could you scroll thru the list and see if the Tyndale commentary on Matthew is in the list (using the MacArthur Study Bible NASB).

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steve clark | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 26 2010 8:54 AM | Locked

David Gullick:
I don't have pages in PR, don't know how you got them?

pages shows up when the resource that you are in appears in multiple collections. L4 will show each collection that your current resource appears in.

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Clinton Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 26 2010 10:21 AM | Locked

Hi David,

I am not having any problems with this set showing up in my parallels.

I had a problem where some commentaries were not showing up in parallel resource assignments even though they were in collections and should have shown up on the parallel drop downs. Recently, after seeing how Mark Barnes had prioritized his resources (http://www.4-14.org.uk/prioritising-resources-in-logos-4 He also posted a picture of his prioritization setup somewhere on this site, but I can't find it anymore) I tried this for my missing resources and they then showed up in my parallel resource drop downs.

Try prioritizing one of the tyndale commentaries (which will prioritize the set) and see if that helps.

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Melissa Snyder | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 26 2010 10:45 AM | Locked

David Gullick:
rebuilt index, problem remains.

David ~  When you right click on one of the Tyndale commentaries in your Library, is "Prioritize this series" one of the options?

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David Gullick | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 26 2010 3:54 PM | Locked

Melissa Snyder:

David Gullick:
rebuilt index, problem remains.

David ~  When you right click on one of the Tyndale commentaries in your Library, is "Prioritize this series" one of the options?

Clinton Thomas:
Try prioritizing one of the tyndale commentaries (which will prioritize the set) and see if that helps.

Yes. The series has been my fourth prioritized commentary series, I just moved the series to the very top of prioritization, restarted L4 but no difference. See image below

 

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David Gullick | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 26 2010 4:11 PM | Locked

Here you go Steve. And when in the MacArthur Study Bible on Matthew 1:1 the Tyndale Commentary on Matthew definitely does not appear in PR

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David Gullick | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 26 2010 7:01 PM | Locked

Perhaps a related bug - When in the Pulpit Commentary I don't even get Top Commentaries PR

EDIT: It appears that when I'm not in one of my top rated commentaries, Top Commentaries never shows in PR. Top Commentaries only show when I'm already in one of my top commentaries. I'm sure this isn't normal is it? It also happens with bibles and my Common Bibles collection.

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steve clark | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 26 2010 9:36 PM | Locked

David Gullick:

Here you go Steve. And when in the MacArthur Study Bible on Matthew 1:1 the Tyndale Commentary on Matthew definitely does not appear in PR

i think there is definitely a bug or something not installed properly here. Notice that in the PR's Top Commentaries drop down that it is missing your current commentary (the one that you are in when you click on PR button). The current commentary should show up with an orange vertical bar on the left next to it.

To my understanding the current resource must always appear in a collection in the drop down.

You are probably in the 4.1Beta. It would be nice if someone here on the forum who has the Tyndale OT/NT commentary and running the Beta try to duplicate this. i am at a loss, any MVPs your assistance would be very helpful.

 

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