I would like to organize my library according to its type for the purpose of search and passage guide,would you please explain it to me,in an explicit way,if possible in screenshot?
I would like to organize my library according to its type
Tes,
Logos4 already has your Library arranged by type (for the most part)
Also someone just a few days ago had a post about organizing their library: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/28105.aspx Mark gave some good tips on this in the post.
If you want to create collections based on the various types in the Logos Library, use this syntax in the collections. Use a new collection for each line of syntax.
type:"Bible Commentary"type:Encyclopediatype:"Bible Notes"type:Grammar
Plus any of the other types listed in steve's picture.
Hi, Kevin and Steve, where do I type them?
You can test a filter like "Type:Bible" by typing it into the "Find" field when you're looking at your library. If you want to create a collection with that filter, select "Collections" under the "Tools" menu. If the collection that comes up is named "Unnamed Collection", you can type in a new name to rename the collection. Then type your filter into the field below "Start with resources matching:". That will give you the same set of resources in that collection (at least as a starting point) as you would have seen in your library when using the same filter.
Hope this helps,
Donnie
Let's step through and build a Collection.
1. In the top menu click on Tools.
2. In the drop down menu click on Collections.
Logos will open the Collection Tool in your layout
3. In the Collections tool window, click on New.
4. Click in the name box, then type this name into it: Bible Dictionaries
5. Then click in the Rule box, then type this into it: type:encyclopedia AND subject:bible
Now your collection should look like this, you may have a different number of dictionaries and different books
Now you have a new collection named Bible Dictionaries.
Now let's add your new Collection to your Passage Guide as we study Luke 19:28-40
1. Open your Passage Guide.
2. In the reference box of your Passage Guide, type: Luke 19:28-40 and then press the Enter key.
3. Then click on Add in the Passage Guide's toolbar
4. Then in the drop down menu click on Collections
5. Hover you mouse over the new Collection bar until you see Settings, then click on Settings
6. In the drop down menu find your new Collection Bible Dictionaries and click on it.
7. Now click on the Collections bar to expand it. Notice that you see various Dictionaries which have something to do with your passage.
So now you have organized you library a little bit to help you with the Passage Guide.
Great description, Steve [Y]
Excellent thread, i would have never figured this out myself.
Hi, Kevin and Steve, where do I type them? Tes, Let's step through and build a Collection. 1. In the top menu click on Tools. 2. In the drop down menu click on Collections. Logos will open the Collection Tool in your layout 3. In the Collections tool window, click on New. 4. Click in the name box, then type this name into it: Bible Dictionaries 5. Then click in the Rule box, then type this into it: type:encyclopedia AND subject:bible Now your collection should look like this, you may have a different number of dictionaries and different books Now you have a new collection named Bible Dictionaries. Now let's add your new Collection to your Passage Guide as we study Luke 19:28-40 1. Open your Passage Guide. 2. In the reference box of your Passage Guide, type: Luke 19:28-40 and then press the Enter key. 3. Then click on Add in the Passage Guide's toolbar 4. Then in the drop down menu click on Collections 5. Hover you mouse over the new Collection bar until you see Settings, then click on Settings 6. In the drop down menu find your new Collection Bible Dictionaries and click on it. 7. Now click on the Collections bar to expand it. Notice that you see various Dictionaries which have something to do with your passage. So now you have organized you library a little bit to help you with the Passage Guide.
Amazing!Steve I am very excited.Today I am busy with my Bible study preparation,but tomorrow or perhaps let in the night ,which is around 6 o'clock PM your time,I am going to start it.I want to arrange all my resources according to what you have done it,it would be very helpful for me ,if you could make a list for me, to type on the Rule box.I have the platinum and plus I have bought many resources,but due to the problem of arrangement I could not use them , like figurative of speech and so on.I want you to give me a new start, really I am very glad ,this is a great contribution.God bless you ,and thank you all.
Thank you! I am new to Logos and this was one of my two biggest issues that I've been trying to figure out. This solution is exactly what I've been looking for.
Thank You! This is an excellent explanation for amateurs like me still getting to grips with the program after a year. [Y]
Hi Matt - and welcome.
You might also find the wiki article on collections - http://wiki.logos.com/Collections - useful to you.
Graham
I want to arrange all my resources according to what you have done it,it would be very helpful for me
Before you start doing your whole library, first do the example i have shown when you get time. Then after you have done the example, post a screen shot of the Passage Guide showing the Collection bar expanded here in this post so i can see that you got it right. Then we can proceed in helping you make more collections.
Paul,
Have you found or explored the wiki? There are many step-by-step illustrated instructions on using different parts of Logos4. (see the wiki Table of Contents)
I have tried to click to expand my newly created collection ,but it is dead,have made any wrong?
I want to arrange all my resources according to what you have done it,it would be very helpful for me Tes, Before you start doing your whole library, first do the example i have shown when you get time. Then after you have done the example, post a screen shot of the Passage Guide showing the Collection bar expanded here in this post so i can see that you got it right. Then we can proceed in helping you make more collections.
Hi Tes, I'm not Steve, but I noticed that you have put your "Bible dictionaries" collection in a Commentaries section instead of a Collections section in your passage guide. Bible dictionaries are not commentaries, so they are not indexed by Bible references, so the way you did it will not work. Go reread that part of Steve's instructions, as he explains how to do it right.
I have tried to click to expand my newly created collection ,but it is dead,have made any wrong? Hi Tes, I'm not Steve, but I noticed that you have put your "Bible dictionaries" collection in a Commentaries section instead of a Collections section in your passage guide. Bible dictionaries are not commentaries, so they are not indexed by Bible references, so the way you did it will not work. Go reread that part of Steve's instructions, as he explains how to do it right.
Thank you Rosie.Now I have it done.
Thank you Steve,I have done it ,I am posting it ,I need help with rest.
Very GOOD!
i just got home from being out of town all day. So let me get some dinner and then i will start putting together another post to help you.
Now for helping you organize more of your library....
i do not have a large library like you, so i cannot tell you exactly how to create your collections. But there are other users which have large libraries and have added collection info on the wiki. So now let's learn how to use the collection info that others have contributed.
This section will describe how collection info is shown in the Example Collection wiki
1. This is a screen shot of the Example Collections wiki page open in my browser. a. The link to open this wiki page is Example Collections
2. Notice the bold text above bulleted areas. This is the Collection name the user had for their collection.
3. The Rule shows the rule that the user had in their rule box.
4. The Manually Included Items shows books that they added in the Collection tool. You would do this when your rule does not find a book, but you want it added to your collection manually.
a. To add these books into your collection, you would open your Library next to the collection tool.
b. Then locate the book that you wanted to manually add to your collection. Then drag it to your collection and drop it in the box + Plus these resources and drop it there
c. After you drop the book, Logos4 shows it in the Plus these resources box and adds it to your collection.
5. The Manually Excluded these items shows what the books that the rules included in the collection, but the user did not want them in their collection.
a. Locate the book in your collection that you want to manually remove. Then grab it with your mouse and drag it to the Minus these resources box and drop it there.
b. Notice that Logos4 removed that book from your collection and it shows up in the Minus these resources box.
6. The Library size shows you how many resources that the user had in their Library.
a. There are comments at the top of the wiki page that describes why these are shown.
b. This is the final number of books in this Collection.
Now let's build a new collection from information on the wiki....
1. In the wiki page of your browser, drag your mouse over the title Bible Backgrounds to select it.
a. Right click on the selected text, in the pop-up menu click on Copy.
2. Now in your collection tool in Logos4, click on New to create a new collection.
a. Then right in the name box
b. In the pop-up menu click on Paste.
3. Now in the wiki in the browser, use your mouse to drag over the Rule to select it (But NOT the word Rule: ).
a. Then right click on the selected text.
b. Then in the pop-up menu click on Copy.
4. Now in the Logos4 collection tool, right click in the Rule box.
a. In the pop-up menu click on Paste.
5. Now you have a new collection !
Now you can use this collection in your Passage Guide like you did in my earlier example.
Now that you know how to create collections found in the wiki page Example Collections, you can decide which collection that might be useful to you. I would not expect every collection to be useful to you. But there are several collections which will help you inside your Passage Guide.
Should I add them all In " collections/All Resources? If so I have tried to add "Bibles" which I have created,but it did not show up.
Tes, it does not make sense to add a Bibles collection to a Passage Guide. The Passage Guide is for generating a report of all the resources you have which discuss a particular Bible passage. Of course all your Bibles contain that passage you are studying, but they do not discuss it, nor do they have references to it. Whereas other books will refer to Bible passages with references like "John 3:16," you will not see such Scripture reference text within a Bible anywhere.
Could you tell us what you are trying to do by including your Bibles collection in a Passage Guide? Are you trying to make it show you that reference in all the different Bible versions? You can't do that within a Passage Guide, but there are other ways to do it. For a quick method, press F7 when you have a Bible open to a given verse, and it will show you that verse in all your top Bibles. For more control (passage ranges and unlimited number of versions), use the Text Comparison tool.
Should I add them all In " collections/All Resources? If so I have tried to add "Bibles" which I have created,but it did not show up. Tes, it does not make sense to add a Bibles collection to a Passage Guide. The Passage Guide is for generating a report of all the resources you have which discuss a particular Bible passage. Of course all your Bibles contain that passage you are studying, but they do not discuss it, nor do they have references to it. Whereas other books will refer to Bible passages with references like "John 3:16," you will not see such Scripture reference text within a Bible anywhere. Could you tell us what you are trying to do by including your Bibles collection in a Passage Guide? Are you trying to make it show you that reference in all the different Bible versions? You can't do that within a Passage Guide, but there are other ways to do it. For a quick method, press F7 when you have a Bible open to a given verse, and it will show you that verse in all your top Bibles. For more control (passage ranges and unlimited number of versions), use the Text Comparison tool.
You are right Rosie, I was not thinking about the subject of the Bible,but simply I was blindly organizing my resources.You are right it doesn't make sence.It was simply on the list and I was following simply the sequence of the list.Now I have arranged all my resources according what is stated in the Wike,but how do I know whether books like figurative of speech and Hard saying of the Bible and others are included?
Thank you Steve,I have done it ,I am posting it ,I need help with rest. Very GOOD! i just got home from being out of town all day. So let me get some dinner and then i will start putting together another post to help you.
Steve, thank you very much,I have arranged all my resources according to the example and explanation you have given me, I have never thought that could be arranged in this way.
I want to add To my collection "hard saying of the bible" and "figurative speech of the bible" could you tell me how and to which collection I have to add,
i don't have the book "hard sayings of the Bible". But you could create a new collection or add the books manually to a collection that you think they should be in.
1. Open your Library next to the collection tool window. Then locate the book in your Library.
2. In the collection tool window click on New.
3. Then name your new collection
Or if you want to add it to an existing Collection, click on Open and open that collection (in this case you would skip steps 2 & 3)
4. In the Library window use your mouse to click and drag the title of the book to Plus these resources box in the collection tool window and drop it there.
5. Now notice that Logos4 shows your book title in the Plus these resources box of the collection window. Also notice that your book appears in your collection list in the collection window.
Repeat step 4 for other books that you want to manually add to your collection.
Now I have two problems:
Or do you have a better suggestion?
1. As you could see in my screenshot I have two names of Collections ,which are marked by time and date,I want to use the latest one as my standard and delete the second one.How do I do it?
This is a complicated one to explain, but i will give it a try.Logos4 saves your Passage Guide anytime that you make a change while you are in a given scripture reference. So you apparently have had 2 different Passage Guide layouts with different collection bars in them.
To delete the one that you do not want:
1. Open the Passage Guide that you do not want (example: if you do not want the one for December 2010, then click on the blue link ) to open that version of your Passage Guide.
2. Then click on the icon in your Passage Guide to open its menu.
3. In the drop down menu click on Delete this guide.
2. As you see some resources like Biography in my screenshot they are empty, I don't know ,where the problem is ,I agues perhaps it has no reference for the verse I have typed on the passage box,
If Logos4 does not find your scripture reference that you are using in the Passage Guide for books in one of your collections, then it will not allow you to expand that collection. Not all books in your collections will always have every scripture reference.
Steve, I have deleted it ,but still I have two passage guides,the one on the left side is the new one ,which I have created,and the one on the right side is ,perhaps the standart passage guide of logos 4.My fear is if I delete the right one ,then I am not going to be able to get it back again, I think It would be even better if I could rename them, in order to be able to know ,which is which ,without wasting time to scroll.What would you advise me ?
Sorry I have forgotten to upload my screenshot
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but still I have two passage guides,the one on the left side is the new one ,which I have created,and the one on the right side is ,perhaps the standart passage guide of logos 4.
There is your problem. You have 2 copies of your Passage Guide open to the same scripture reference. Unfortunately Logos4 does not permit naming saved Passage Guides.
The next step in using a Passage Guide where you want specific Collections (or other bars that you have added) to show up each time you pull up a Passage Guide is to build a Custom Passage Guide. Once that you build a Custom Passage Guide you can open it directly from the Guides menu.
To learn how to build a Custom Passage Guide view this wiki page: Customizing the Passage and Exegetical Guides
My fear is if I delete the right one ,then I am not going to be able to get it back again,
If you build a Custom Passage Guide, then you can always get it back. When you open your Custom Passage Guide, you would just need to type into the reference box the scripture passage you used the last time you were in the guide.
EDIT: after zooming on your image in the previous post, i see that your scripture references are not the same. Logos4 will save guides on exact scripture references. So Logos4 has saved your guides on both of your scripture references. Even though they overlap, they are not the same scripture reference.
One way to get back to a specific saved guide is to add your Passage Guide (while viewing your exact scripture reference) to your Favorites and renaming it in your favorites so that you can find it again.
1. With your mouse grab and drag your Passage Guide .... (while you are dragging your Passage Guide, the Passage Guide window will temporarily disappear because Logos4 is not sure if you are just rearranging your layout, but after you drop it in step 2 your guide will reappear)
2. To your Favorites tool window and drop it there.
a. After you drop it there you will probably want to rename it so that you can easily find it again.
b. Then in the future when you want to open it, just click on it in your favorites.
I am having problem to build custom passage,The collection I have created have different headings than ,what are listed in the standard list.I am a bit confused .
Give me some time and i will add a new wiki page for an example on building a new Custom Passage Guide. When i get it done i will post a link to it here.
EDIT: the new wiki is: Building a Custom Guide Example
Ok.thank you steve.
Give me some time and i will add a new wiki page for an example on building a new Custom Passage Guide. When i get it done i will post a link to it here. Ok.thank you steve.
the new wiki is: Building a Custom Guide Example
Hi Steve, Thank you very much,I have created all my resources.
I have seen a good list in your Passage guide .How did you create the resources you have listed them in the custom bible study guides?
Collection Title: All BiblesCollection Rule: type:Bible ANDNOT (title:targum)Use: Mostly for searching
Collection Title: Bible BackgroundCollection Rule: the same as on Example Commentaries wiki pageUse: Mostly in Passage Guide
Collection Title: Bible DictionariesCollection Rule: type:encyclopedia AND subject:bibleUse: Mostly in Passage Guide
Collection Title: BibliographyCollection Rule: rating:>=0Use: For printing a list of all my books
Collection Title: Comm NTCollection Rule: ((subject:"N.T." OR title:(matt, mark, luke, john, acts, romans, corinthi, galat, ephesh, philippi, colossi, thessa, timoth, titus, phile, hebrews, james, peter, john, jude, revela)) ANDNOT (title:(old,henry,study,genes, exodu, levit, deut,joshu,judges,ruth,samuel,kings,chronic,ezra,nehem,esther,job,psalm,proverb,eccles,"song of son"),subject:"O.T.")) AND type:commentUse: Mostly in Passage Guide, New Testament commentaries
Collection Title: Comm OTCollection Rule: (title:old OR title:(genes, exod, levit, numb, deut, josh, judg, ruth, samue, kings, chronic, ezra, nehem, esther, job, psalms, proverb, "song of", eccles, isaiah, jerem, lament, ezekiel, daniel, hosea, joel, amos, obadiah, jonah, micah, nahum, habakk, zephan, haggai, zecha, malachi) ) AND title:commenUse: Mostly in Passage Guide, Old Testament commentaries
Collection Title: DevotionalsCollection Rule: type:devotionUse: Mostly for searching in my devotional resources
Collection Title: DictionariesCollection Rule: (title:dict AND type:Encyclopedia AND subject:bible) Use: Mostly for searching in my dictionaries both English and Bible
Collection Title: DictLexCollection Rule: mytag:dict OR mytag:lexiconUse: Mostly for searching in my dictionaries and lexicons that i have tagged in my Library
Collection Title: English BiblesCollection Rule: type:bible AND lang:englishUse: in various searches and other places
Collection Title: GrammarCollection Rule: type:grammar OR subject:grammarUse: Mostly in Exegetical Guide
Collection Title: Images2Collection Rule: type:media OR type:mapUse: Mostly in searching for images for my Grandkids Bible study
Collection Title: MonographsCollection Rule: type:monographUse: Mostly in searching for something in Non-Bibles
Collection Title: Non-(Bible,Commentaries,Dictionaries)Collection Rule: rating:>=0 ANDNOT (type:bible OR type:commentary OR type:encyclopedia OR title:study OR title:systemat)Use: Mostly in searching for something in Non-Bibles Non-Commentaries, & Non-Systematic Theology books
Collection Title: Non-BiblesCollection Rule: (rating:<=5) ANDNOT (type:Bible, mytag:maps, title:image, type:timeline, mytag:music) Use: Mostly in searching for something in Non-Bibles, but includes Commentaries
Collection Title: Other CommentariesCollection Rule: (mytag:"fav commentary") ANDNOT (mytag:"comm verse" OR mytag:"comm topic" OR mytag:"comm howto")Use: Mostly in searching for something in Commentaries which i have tagged that i like, but are not my normally used ones
Collection Title: Study BIblesCollection Rule: (title:Study AND title:bible)Use: Mostly in searching for something in my study Bibles that are in my collection
Collection Title: Top BiblesCollection Rule: (mytag:"fav bibles" AND rating:>=3)Use: Mostly in searching for something in my favorite Bibles that are in my collection that i have tagged and rated
Collection Title: Topic CommentariesCollection Rule: (mytag:"comm topic")Use: Mostly in searching for something in my commentaries that i have tagged as dealing with scripture in a topic format
Collection Title: Topical SearchCollection Rule: title:topical OR subject:topicUse: Mostly in searching for something in topical books
Collection Title: Verse CommCollection Rule: (mytag:"comm verse")Use: Mostly in searching for something in my commentaries that i have tagged as dealing with scripture in a verse format
I have contemplated Collections and whether I should make any ever since I got L4...so far I haven't seen the need. But if I ever do, I may look at this thread again since it seems to give a good explanation of the process. Thanks.
Steve, thank you for laying a solid foundation in my Bible studies.I have commpleted all of them. except some which I am going to show you ,with out eating my breakfast and lunch.But this is more than that ,you could imagine how I am excited.I haven't stopped to be excited, Here are what I ha
1. http://wiki.logos.com/media.aspx?name=PGexamples1a.png How am I able to create this resources? What arethe rules?
Guides
Bible study Guides
Exegetical Guide
Bible Word Study
Custom Bible Study Guides
My Bible Word Study
Kids prep
Find My Content
My Exegetical Guide
BWS Dict/Lexicon
Custom BWS
BWS Compare ESV to KJV
Bible Dict for English words
Dict for OL Words
2. I havecreated all of those you have sent me,but I was not able to create the followingwhich I have listed them ,because I don’t know how.
a. Collection Title: DictLexCollectionRule: mytag:dict OR mytag:lexiconUse:Mostly for searching in my dictionaries and lexicons that i have tagged in myLibrary
b. Collection Title: Top BiblesCollectionRule: (mytag:"fav bibles" AND rating:>=3)Use:Mostly in searching for something in my favorite Bibles that are in mycollection that i have tagged and rated
c. Collection Title: Topic CommentariesCollectionRule: (mytag:"commtopic")Use:Mostly in searching for something in my commentaries that i have tagged asdealing with scripture in a topic format
d. CollectionTitle: Verse CommCollection Rule: (mytag:"commverse")Use: Mostly in searching for something in my commentaries that i havetagged as dealing with scripture in a verse format
Steve, Thanks for the link I appreciate it. A lot of useful info on the Wiki and Im looking forward to going through it in great detail.
Paul
Hi,Steve Could you tell me the Rules for these resources?
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many of these are from building wiki pages to explain them.
Custom BWS see Using the Custom BWS guide tool (see step 5)
BWS Compare ESV to KJV see Multiple Translations BWS guide
BWS Dict/Lexicon see Building the BWS guide (see step 8)
Finding MyContent see Building the custom Passage Guide (see step 8)
My Bible Word Study same as Bible Word Study
Steve,
Excellent work and you are to be commended for your patient follow through in this whole thread - helping everybody who will ever stop by.
My question is : I was told on another thread that many Collections will slow down L4. Is this true? Under all circumstances (just having created them - even if you are not currently searching them)
Ron,
i don't have all that many collections. Mark A. Smith probably would be a good person to ask (i have seen in some post that he has over 200 collections).
But i am sure that it slows down Parallel Resources when you have a lot of your collections tagged to be used with PRs.
Other than that i don't know. My computer is relatively slow (see my spec in my signature) so everything seems to be kinda slow to me [:)]. One item that i have noticed that does really slow down my system is Visual Filters when there is a lot of things to highlight.
Hope this helps
Paul, Matt, David, David,
glad i could help!
EDIT: sorry it took me so long to respond to ya'll, got busy answering posts and making wiki pages.
Hi,Steve Could you tell me the Rules for these resources? Tes, many of these are from building wiki pages to explain them. Custom BWS see Using the Custom BWS guide tool (see step 5) BWS Compare ESV to KJV see Multiple Translations BWS guide BWS Dict/Lexicon see Building the BWS guide (see step 8) Finding MyContent see Building the custom Passage Guide (see step 8) My Bible Word Study same as Bible Word Study Kids Prep My Passage Guide My Exegetical Guide Multi-Translations BWS Bible Dict for English words Dict for OL words
Hi ,steve Thank you for investing your time end energy to help me.
1. I have no orientation `,no idea.about the last post you have sent me,how?
In your post that i answered you showed my list of Guides. My answer shows you which tools i have installed for each of my guides.
2. How do I add new resources to the collection I have already created,for eg I want to add "figurative speech "and "hard saying of the Bible" and to which collection ?
1. i explained how to add these books to a new collection in this post (i do not have the 'Hard Sayings' book)
2. Open your passage guide and enter the scripture reference Rom 1:16 and press Enter.
3. Use the Add to add your new collection like i showed you in steps 3 & 4 (bottom half of post) this post
4. change the Settings to use the collection Sayings & Figure of Speech following step 6 (bottom half of post shown in above step) .
5. Then just view that collection. Notice all the hits for Figures of Speech.
. i explained how to add these books to a new collection in this post (i do not have the 'Hard Sayings' book)
Sorry Steve I have overlooked it ,to much excited.I cannot express the joy I have ,Thank you ,May the Lord bless you according to His Riches in Glory.
Steve, So far what I have done, I am posting you.With the last post I am not yet through I look at it again and again,if not as usual.....
Looking at your Passage Guide on the left in the top picture of your post, i noticed that you have several copies of collections named Bible Backgrounds. i am not sure what you have as Rules for each of those collections. If they have the same rules, you probably want to delete those collections (except keep just one of them).
1. Open the Collection tool. Then click on Open. Logos4 will show the drop down list of your collections.
2. Notice that i have 2 copies of Sayings & Figure of Speech. In your case, you will probably see Bible Background (x)
3. If you right click on the collection that you want to delete, Logos4 will show you another drop down menu.
4. If you click on Delete, Logos4 will delete that collection. Warning: when you delete a collection it is permanently gone!
i also wonder how many Bible Dictionaries (?) that you have. If you have more than 1, then you probably want to delete them too.
Having so many collections in your Custom Passage Guide will really slow down how fast the Passage Guide works. Not to mention that it can be confusing to you.
Once that you clean up your list of collections, we might want to review how to edit a Custom Passage Guide. But i will be busy most of today. But maybe later this evening we can review how to do that.
