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John Kaess | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Nov 5 2012 6:53 AM

I have the Greek and Hebrew videos and m wondering if I upgrade o Logos 5, how will that impact the information in these videos?

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 5 2012 7:11 AM

I don't have the video's John so I can't be precise. I know this though:

All that L4 did and does is still in L5. 

Some of it may be slightly different in implementation but we'll be here to help you out.

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John Fidel | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 9 2012 5:08 AM

Hi John,

The methods used in the Greek and Hebrew videos are still the same in Logos 5. There are some new features that may allow for users to get syntactic force on a word in the Exegetical Guide Word By Word analysis etc. So the bottom line is that Logos 5 can make using what you learn from those videos easier to apply to your studies.

The use of visual filters and other resources discussed in the videos does not change. 

Does this answer your question?

 

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John Kaess | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 9 2012 5:32 AM

Thanks, John.  That's what i wanted to know!

It would be really awesome if you guys maybe put out a pdf or short video with a "how to" for using some of the new Logos 5 features as part of these already awesome and practical videos.

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John Fidel | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 9 2012 6:07 AM

One big change is that the Hebrew Visual Filters suggested in the videos to use with the ESV or one of the Reverse Interlinears will no longer work in L5 in those resources because they changed the Hebrew Morphology to Logos Hebrew Morphology from Andersen Forbes. They should not be too difficult to rebuild and is a good refresher for what they are highlightingBig Smile The Greek work fine... Just a little heads up.

 

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tom | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 9 2012 6:31 AM

TCBlack:
All that L4 did and does is still in L5. 
What about handouts?

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 9 2012 6:55 AM

tom:

TCBlack:
All that L4 did and does is still in L5. 
What about handouts?

Handouts are deprecated.

They are still there in L5Win just as they were in L4Win.  For new users, I believe they are not visible by default on the documents menu. But if you have used handouts in the past they should be there.  Also because they are deprecated, there are no plans to add them to Mac.  .Mono, the underlying tech for Mac never supported, and now we learn, won't support the underlying tech that handouts rely upon in L4Win/L5Win. 

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Mike W | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 9 2012 11:35 AM

TCBlack:
For new users, I believe they are not visible by default

This is available under the Document menu or create new handouts bu typing "Create Handout" in the command box.  Both work on my windows install of L5.  My understanding of Depreciated is that it relies on feature in .Net that Microsoft has said they won't be supporting going forward.  Is that your understanding as well?  

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 9 2012 2:43 PM

Mike W:
My understanding of Depreciated is that it relies on feature in .Net that Microsoft has said they won't be supporting going forward.  Is that your understanding as well?  

Deprecated in general means it is no longer a feature being developed going forward and in that sense, its use is discouraged and unsupported. (This does not mean that Logos will not support handouts - they will - but that is what deprecated means in general for software.)

Whether or not it's due to .NET I could not be certain.

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Eric | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 10 2012 12:07 PM

John Fidel:

One big change is that the Hebrew Visual Filters suggested in the videos to use with the ESV or one of the Reverse Interlinears will no longer work in L5 in those resources because they changed the Hebrew Morphology to Logos Hebrew Morphology from Andersen Forbes. They should not be too difficult to rebuild and is a good refresher for what they are highlightingBig Smile The Greek work fine... Just a little heads up.

 

Is there any wizard out there that can reproduce these filters with the Logos Hebrew Morphology? I'm having a hard time getting something equivalent to what was produced in the video with this new morphology.

 

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John Fidel | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 11 2012 10:47 AM

Hi Eric,

Upon further review it appears that the visual filters constructed using the AF Morphology will only work with the AFAT in L5 and no longer work with the ESV. I suggest an e mail to support requested that the issue be addressed. A possible solution would be to publish an ESV using AFAT just for the use with the videos, but they may have other solutions or suggestions.

I will follow up as well.

 

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Pam Larson | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 12 2012 8:28 AM

I've been trying to duplicate my Hebrew filters. With the nouns most of the features highlighted in the videos are not there in the new morphology; I'm only able to recreate one of the filters. With the verbs I'm having better luck.

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John Fidel | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 12 2012 4:06 PM

Eric and Pam,

I received a reply from Logos that they are looking into the matter. I provided a link to this post so hopefully they will reply when a solution exists. We will await their response.

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Eric | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 12 2012 4:11 PM

Thanks John for taking this on, I hadn't even had time for a thought today with work so I appreciate you taking care of this!

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Pam Larson | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 12 2012 10:11 PM

Thanks, John. I also brought it up in this thread:

http://community.logos.com/forums/t/58739.aspx

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John Kaess | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 7 2012 9:14 AM

John Fidel:

I received a reply from Logos that they are looking into the matter. I provided a link to this post so hopefully they will reply when a solution exists. We will await their response.

Any update on this?

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John Fidel | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 7 2012 12:27 PM

See this post here:

http://community.logos.com/forums/t/61286.aspx

Bradley indicates the videos impacted will be redone for the new morphology. 

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Michael S. | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 15 2015 2:53 PM

Anyone hear of any updates?

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