BUG?: Bible Word Study - Translation and Bible Selection

alabama24 said:

David Bailey said:

My default bible is the NLT and it has a Greek reverse-interlinear.

Can you give a screen shot of the top of your prioritization?

hi Alabama,

here is a screenshot:

thanks

Dave Hooton said:

David Bailey said:

When I change the bible from ESV to NLT and save my Layout, the change is not stored and it goes back to ESV.

Check your Template for the setting in the Translation section (Edit Guide Template in the BWS dropdown menu). Mine is set to Default Bible, and it allows NLT or ESV to be used depending on  bible Prioritization.

Hi Dave,

Ah, I didn't check this - thanks for the tip. In the BWS template for the Translation section, I have it set as "Default Bible." Should I change it to NLT? My setting should work, however, correct?

David

alabama24 said:

After looking at mine, I think it is a bug. Can you change your subject line prefix to reflect BUG:?

done

Thanks for looking into this.

I may not understand how the BWS should handle the template setting and/or the setting found in the Translation section. However, after looking at this again, the BWS behavior is correct when I launch the tool from the NLT bible.  That is, in John 1:1 using the NLT, when I launch the BWS, it correctly uses the NLT in the Translation section.  Same thing with NASB95, NIV, ESV, etc. that allows a greek lemma for BWS. Whichever bible I use to launch the BWS for a greek word, the BWS will use that bible version under the Translation section.

When I change the translation from one bible to another, then save my layout, it does not keep that setting under Translation section.  So...it's not clear to me what "Default Bible" really means in the BWS template for the Translation section (and the other sections too).

David

I agree, Alabama, that the nomenclature is causing confusion. Perhaps in the template they should remove the selection "default bible" altogether.

David

Hi Brisa

I use the following steps:

1. Change my default prioritized bible from NLT to another bible (RSV for example)  Ok, RSV lacks RI, so I used NIV

2. Open the Bible Word Study Guide and either...

2b. enter a new greek word in the text box, with All Passages filter on, and create the BWS report....or   

2a. use the existing greek word in the text box, with All Passages filter on, and create the BWS report

Edit: I saw Alabama's post and tried a new greek word;  my resulted in a report that uses NLT, not my default bible RSV.  Interesting.

I changed my default prioritized bible to NIV, and the BWS report appears to work "correctly" when I enter a new greek word. This confirms Alabama's earlier finding.

When I execute those steps, the frequency histogram uses NLT in both the Lemma and Translation sections.

This also happens when I launch my customized BWS.

My template settings for BWS are:

Question: What should be the correct behavior of the BWS when the template settings are "Default Bible"?

See also Dave Hooton's comments 6th posts above.

thanks,

David

Log files: 3247.Win7Pro64-Logos5 Log Files.zip

Brisa Davis said:

Is it possible that the BWS you were running on the original Greek word was a saved BWS

My default prioritized bible in L5 is the NLT.  Originally, I was seeing the Translation section use ESV each time I launched a saved layout.  But I also observed the same behavior when I closed L5, launched L5 and open the WBS from Guides menu.  When I removed the greek word in cache, entered a new greek word, and then ran the report, the Translation section used my default bible NLT.

Brisa Davis said:

The correct behavior for a new/unsaved BWS when the template settings are "Default Bible" would be for a BWS run from the Guides menu to use the preferred Bible in both the Lemma and Translation sections. A BWS started from a Bible, such as the ESV, should use that Bible instead of the preferred Bible.

Ok.  Thank you, Brisa, for your follow-up.

David

Brisa,

My default bible is the NIV in these examples.

For a new (not customized) or unsaved BWS launched by using the right-mouse click menu of a greek lemma, I observe the following;

1. Lemma section uses the prioritized default bible (NIV) for the frequency histogram.
2. Translation section frequency histogram uses the bible (NASB95) that contained the highlighted word.
3. This confirms your statement above.

For a new (not customized) or unsaved BWS launched from the Guides menu, I observe the following:

1. Lemma section uses the prioritized default bible (NIV) for the frequency histogram.
2. Translation section uses the prioritized default bible (NIV) for the frequency histogram.
3. This confirms your statement above.

I have a saved layout that contains a customized BWS. From its template, the Translation section is set to use “Default Bible.” In my layout, I observe the following:

1. Lemma section uses my prioritized default bible (NIV).
2. Translation section uses the NLT.
3. In the Translation section, I change the bible from NLT to LEB, then save the layout.
4. I make sure the cloud synchronization is done, then I close L5.
5. I launch L5 and open the layout and observe:
   1. Lemma section uses the NIV.
   2. Translation section uses NLT.
   3. Should it suppose use LEB?

I launch a BWS from the Guides menu, enter a greek word, and run the report:

1. Lemma section uses my highest prioritized bible (NIV).
2. Translation section uses my highest prioritized bible (NIV).
3. This confirms your statement above.
4. In Translation section, I change the bible from NIV to NKJV and save the layout.
5. After synchronization is done, I close L5 and re-launch it.
6. I open the layout and observe that both Lemma and Translation sections use NIV.
1. Should the Translation section use NKJV?

What Dave Hooten is saying is that both Lemma and Translation sections in the BWS (when launching from a bible) should use that bible version in the histograms.

David