Upgrade from Starter to Portfolio

Ragnheðin Ryggstein
Ragnheðin Ryggstein Member Posts: 23 ✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

Does any body know if it is possible to buy "Starter" and then work the way up to "Portfolio"?

and will the price be more then the total price for Portfolio or more??

Regards

Raggi

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  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523
    Welcome to the forums! [:)]

    Does any body know if it is possible to buy "Starter" and then work the way up to "Portfolio"?

    and will the price be more then the total price for Portfolio or more??

    Regards

    Raggi

    Yes it is possible, but it will be more expensive in the long run. Generally speaking, it is best to buy what you can afford and need. In some cases, using logos financing is a good idea.

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  • Ragnheðin Ryggstein
    Ragnheðin Ryggstein Member Posts: 23 ✭✭

    Thank you Alabama24, for a very quick answer, I tried to get an answer from Logos / Sales for 5 days ago, but still waiting[:)]

    So if i would buy "Portfolio" i would have a life long access to all material, books etc. also if i would be offline/not connected to the www. and every thing would be downloaded to my HD?

    I need it to be offline, for i am working on a vessel (maritime)

    God bless you and god night

    Raggi

  • I need it to be offline, for i am working on a vessel (maritime)

    Welcome [:D]

    Logos is easier to install initially when computer is online so can download resource licenses and resource files => https://www.logos.com/installation 

    After download completes, indexing can be done offline.  Also can use Logos offline; searching uses indexes locally on the Windows or OS X computer. Note: downloading documents from Faithlife groups needs online access, then the documents can be used offline.

    Personally have a tablet that is always offline; method 1 was helpful for cloning Logos from an online installation => http://wiki.logos.com/Quick_Installation_onto_multiple_computers

    Keep Smiling [:)]

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    So if i would buy "Portfolio" i would have a life long access to all material, books etc. also if i would be offline/not connected to the www. and every thing would be downloaded to my HD?

    Yes, that is correct. Once you have downloaded everything onto your PC/Mac, you can work offline.

    Although Alabama24 is correct to say that it is more expensive to work your way up to Portfolio, it is not that much more expensive - particularly if you jump a few steps along the way. Having said that, if you're considering Portfolio I wouldn't bother with Starter and would recommend Bronze as a minimum (ideally Silver).

    If there's someone reading who has a current base package, and nothing else they may be able to give you an example upgrade price to Portfolio.

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  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523

    So if i would buy "Portfolio" i would have a life long access to all material, books etc

    Yes. You never lose resources. If the base packages change (they will at some point), those changes only affect NEW purchasers. Furthermore, you will receive credit for the books you currently own if you purchase a new base package in the future. Doing so only adds the new books on top of what you would already own at the time.

    also if i would be offline/not connected to the www. and every thing would be downloaded to my HD?

    The mobile and desktop apps work differently in this matter. The mobile app is primarily designed for ONLINE access, although you can download resources. The desktop app is designed primarily for OFFLINE access, although the software has cloud syncing capabilities. To answer your question directly, yes, everything would download to your HD. Be prepared: it will take a LONG time unless you have really good internet. [;)]

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  • mike
    mike Member Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭

    alabama24 said:

    Yes. You never lose resources. If the base packages change (they will at some point), those changes only affect NEW purchasers. Furthermore, you will receive credit for the books you currently own if you purchase a new base package in the future. Doing so only adds the new books on top of what you would already own at the time.

    alabama, that's not always the case..

    recently, I tried to upgrade to portfolio.. and sale team won't credit me the books that I already own in the higher package..

    very dissapointing & upsetting..

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523

    mike said:

    recently, I tried to upgrade to portfolio.. and sale team won't credit me the books that I already own in the higher package..

    Really? Which books? What package do you currently own?

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  • mike
    mike Member Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭

    I have Diamond + Greek NT Discourse Bundle (9 Vols.) .. which included in the portfolio (the 6 Vols. one)

    and they cant credited that because of some reasons.. 

    .. long story short .. my hypertension was up..

  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    So if i would buy "Portfolio" i would have a life long access to all material, books etc.

    Yes, and you can also put it in your will.

    Your name sounds Icelandic. Are you?

    I need it to be offline, for i am working on a vessel (maritime)

    Make sure to always have a full backup copy. The books can be redownloaded the next time you're online, but any notes, highlights etc that haven't synced would be lost in case of a HD failure or the like.

    Although Alabama24 is correct to say that it is more expensive to work your way up to Portfolio, it is not that much more expensive

    That's true if looking only at full prices, but there are frequent 10-25% discounts on new base packages, and only very infrequent (and generally smaller) discounts on upgrades. 

    mike said:

    recently, I tried to upgrade to portfolio.. and sale team won't credit me the books that I already own in the higher package..

    Are you perhaps misunderstanding how it works? If you've bought a book for $25 that only costs $2 in the base package, your credit will be $2 (and should already be included in the dynamic price you see on the website). Were you expecting to get the full $25? You can only get that if you've bought it so recently that it can be returned. 

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  • Otto S. Carroll
    Otto S. Carroll Member Posts: 693 ✭✭

    mike said:

    recently, I tried to upgrade to portfolio.. and sale team won't credit me the books that I already own in the higher package..

    very dissapointing & upsetting..

    Have you tried upgrading online?

    About four months ago during a base package sale, I upgraded from Platinum to Portfolio online - during the process I was presented with a chart that identified the books in Portfolio that were already in my library and was told that only the books I didn't already own were reflected in the quoted price of the upgrade. That price was significantly (at least 60%) lower than the sale price quoted after I logged out of my Logos account.

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  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    Have you tried upgrading online?

    I have never heard of a sales rep quoting a higher price for a base package than the one online. They can frequently offer a lower price, though. I hate having to buy through a sales rep, but I would never recommend anyone to buy from the website without first checking with one.

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  • Otto S. Carroll
    Otto S. Carroll Member Posts: 693 ✭✭

    fgh said:

    I have never heard of a sales rep quoting a higher price for a base package than the one online. They can frequently offer a lower price, though. I hate having to buy through a sales rep, but I would never recommend anyone to buy from the website without first checking with one.

    Well, go read the post I was responding to - he is reporting that the sales team did NOT work with him at all!!!

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  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    If you'd read my post further up you would know that I already have read that post, as I responded to it.[;)]

    There is nothing in his post saying that he was quoted a higher price than on the website. I guess anything is possible, but from the information I have so far, I consider that very unlikely. My first suspicion, like I said above, would be that he's simply misunderstood how the system works (he wouldn't be the first one). Alternatively, there could be an error in the ownership logic, but in that case the website will be just as wrong.

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  • Sakarias Ingolfsson
    Sakarias Ingolfsson Member Posts: 180 ✭✭

    fgh said:

    So....

    .

    Your name sounds Icelandic. Are you?

    I have never heard such a name in Iceland, but it does have a Nordic ring to it. I am going to guess that little island group half way to Britain: Føroyar

  • Otto S. Carroll
    Otto S. Carroll Member Posts: 693 ✭✭

    fgh said:

    There is nothing in his post saying that he was quoted a higher price than on the website.

    And there's nothing in his post that suggested that he had checked the website price before calling sales in the first place!!! That is why I asked, "Have you tried upgrading online?" Considering his frustration with the process, going to the wesite site may have helped him see that the sales team really was working with him in good faith. On major purchase, I check the website price FIRST to see if the its in the ballpark of what I'm willing to pay. If so, I will call my rep to see if I can obtain any addition savings.

    When I called my Sales Rep to arrange a payment plan for my Portfolio package, she was able to give me an additional $100 off the price I was quoted on the website. On another major purchase (I think the "Anchor Yale Bible"), I called her to see if I could get a further discount - because of restrictions set by the publisher, she could not offer me the package for less than the website price. I bought that package online a few days later.

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  • Ragnheðin Ryggstein
    Ragnheðin Ryggstein Member Posts: 23 ✭✭

    I am from the Faroe Island (Føroyar) SE from Iceland, have a lot of family in Iceland, have also been working there, for 2-3 years back in 93-95

    Regards

    Raggi

  • Ragnheðin Ryggstein
    Ragnheðin Ryggstein Member Posts: 23 ✭✭

    Hi all

    I would like to tank you all for some great help on my questions

    I have but 1 more to ask: Is it possible for products on Amazon Kindle Paper White, to work together with Logos software?

    Again tank you and God bless

    Raggi

  • mike
    mike Member Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭

    Hi all

    I would like to tank you all for some great help on my questions

    I have but 1 more to ask: Is it possible for products on Amazon Kindle Paper White, to work together with Logos software?

    Again tank you and God bless

    Raggi

    Hi Raggi,

    The answer is no..

    but, you could convert your Amazon (.mobi) files into Microsoft Word (.docx) using Calibre, ABBYY FineReader, AcrobatPro or Office 2013.

    you can choose one from here

    I personally like the ABBYY FineReader.

  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    I am from the Faroe Island (Føroyar)

    I was going to tell Sakarias that he might well be right, but you beat me to it.[:)] I agree the name doesn't sound like a "typical" Icelandic name. A bit too close to Norwegian, but not quite that either. Have to admit I never thought about the Faroes.[:$] Well, an extra welcome to a fellow Scandinavian. I'm Swedish. 

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  • Ragnheðin Ryggstein
    Ragnheðin Ryggstein Member Posts: 23 ✭✭

    Thank you

    my name is: Ragnheðin Ryggstein, had to register in Logos with d:)

    again God bless and thanks for all the help you all have given me

    Raggi

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523

    I have but 1 more to ask: Is it possible for products on Amazon Kindle Paper White, to work together with Logos software?

    For clarification:

    1. Logos has a "personal book builder" tool which allows you to import Microsoft Word (.docx) files into Logos. If you can convert the ebook into this format, you can import it into Logos. 
    2. Logos has mobile apps which allow you to read books on iOS and Android devices. They are also believed to be working on a "send to kindle" feature which would convert Logos books to a format readable on a kindle. 

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  • Ragnheðin Ryggstein
    Ragnheðin Ryggstein Member Posts: 23 ✭✭

    Hi, Alabama24

    this sounds very good, thanks a lot

    Regards

    Raggi

  • Sakarias Ingolfsson
    Sakarias Ingolfsson Member Posts: 180 ✭✭

    So what does fgh mean then?

    Jag antar väl nästan att du är svensk

  • Ragnheðin Ryggstein
    Ragnheðin Ryggstein Member Posts: 23 ✭✭

    So what does fgh mean then?

    Jag antar väl nästan att du är svensk

    Blessaður Sakarias, Þetta meinast með: I almost suppose that you are Swedish:)

    Regards

    Raggi

     

  • Sakarias Ingolfsson
    Sakarias Ingolfsson Member Posts: 180 ✭✭

    Ekki alveg, það er ekki hægt að þýða það orðrétt.

    Betra væri: I guess you are Swedish. 

  • Ragnheðin Ryggstein
    Ragnheðin Ryggstein Member Posts: 23 ✭✭

    Hi, now I have had Logos 5 Portfolio, for a year, worked offline and was ok, but I upgraded to Logos 6, and now some features doesn’t work offline, so your policy is changed, and I am not so happy about that, I have tried to talk to support, to get my money back, but without any luck 

    Logos support said, that the policy was not changed, but I do not trust that answer

    The reason I contacted the Logos forum, was to get a straight answer from some Christians using this software, before i bought anything at all, because i need it to work 100% offline due to my job at sea, where I have from non to a very pore internet connection, but now I don’t know what to do.....

    I also went from portfolio in logos 5 to “I don’t know what” in logos 6

     

    Please, is there anyone there can help me, please, I have offered a lot of money to this software and do not know what to do, please anyone

     

    Best regards

    Ragnheðin Ryggstein

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523

    now some features doesn’t work offline, so your policy is changed, and I am not so happy about that

    Which features? All of the basic features DO work offline on a desktop (or laptop) computer. There are some new features such as "visual copy" which only work online, but old features which previously worked offline still do. Is there something specific you are upset about?

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  • JC54
    JC54 Member Posts: 311 ✭✭

    The online policy has not changed. Yet there are a few features that are not accessible offline. Recently there was a post on this which explains which features for what reasons:https://community.logos.com/forums/t/93180.aspx

    So I would encourage you to enjoy your software and all the new stuff Logos 6 offers.

  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 5,489

    This post specifically answers which features are online-only and why they were implemented that way.

    https://community.logos.com/forums/p/93180/647603.aspx#647603

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  • Kevin Maples
    Kevin Maples Member Posts: 808 ✭✭

    So I would encourage you to enjoy your software and all the new stuff Logos 6 offers.

    Me too. Logos is a great company offering a great product. I don't think you will be disappointed in the long run. 
  • Ragnheðin Ryggstein
    Ragnheðin Ryggstein Member Posts: 23 ✭✭

    Hi,

    I am afraid, that Logos is going to a cloud based system, some features this year and some more next year and so on….

    It is like this. I have to use everything offline, and I have a lot of stuff on pre pup orders and also want to order other thing on line etc. but I worry, that logos will in the future be on the cloud with a login or something like that, so I am in a bit of dilemma, do I bale out or do I stay with Logos! And just live with the loss

    Well it is correct Alabama that logos 5 is offline, but for how long? Can I trust logos that there “only” will be some slight changes…..? I will ask Todd..

    I have read this: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/93180.aspx

    It is ok, for me, if some features are online, I can see that, but logos has to think about us witch can’t be online all the time

    Thanks everybody

    And God bless

    Ragnheðin