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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 31 2009 8:35 AM

Phil Gons:

Linden:
Can you quantify what limited means?

You can read and navigate books in offline mode, but you can't search them or access them in reports like the Passage Guide, Bible Word Study, and Text Comparison.

WOW!! That is a huge drawback.

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Dave Dunkin (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 31 2009 8:38 AM

Philip Buettel:
Haven't been able to download any books for offline viewing on my 3Gs.

You need to have purchased Logos 4 and have a license for the resource to be able to download it for offline reading. Check out Logos 4 here: http://www.logos.com/4.

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Ryan Burns | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 31 2009 9:51 AM

Lynn Hinman:
Unforterately, several of the books downloaded the wrong title.

Can you explain a little more so we can test? What book were you trying to download and what book actually downloaded?

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Jacob Hantla | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 31 2009 10:04 AM

Kevin A. Purcell:

Phil Gons:

Linden:
Can you quantify what limited means?

You can read and navigate books in offline mode, but you can't search them or access them in reports like the Passage Guide, Bible Word Study, and Text Comparison.

WOW!! That is a huge drawback.

But very understandable since the reports are all generated on the server. 

Jacob Hantla
Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 31 2009 12:49 PM

Jacob Hantla:

Kevin A. Purcell:

Phil Gons:

Linden:
Can you quantify what limited means?

You can read and navigate books in offline mode, but you can't search them or access them in reports like the Passage Guide, Bible Word Study, and Text Comparison.

WOW!! That is a huge drawback.

But very understandable since the reports are all generated on the server. 

The problem is people don't want to have to connect. AT&T is th weakness. In my area I do not have 3GS so I have to rely on Edge or Wifi. So while doing a little light reading will be fine on my iPhone, doing any real serious study with it is a waste. So then having the Passage guide or word study guide only taughts me and makes me want the app to do what it says it can do all the time. But with this limitation it cannot do it all the time.

Now the latest 1.2.1 update is so buggy it won't run for very long. Crashes all the time.

You make big promises and cannot deliver it leaves me feeling disappointed. The Logos iPhone app has the potential to be the very best bible app on the iphone. Right now it is not even useful.

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davidphillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 31 2009 1:05 PM

Kevin,

I couldn't disagree more about the app being "not at all useful." Just the fact that I can download books from my library to my iPod and read on the go make it (for me) more useful than any other app out there.

I'm also not having problems with crashes like you are. What's causing them?

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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 31 2009 1:07 PM

David B Phillips:

Kevin,

I couldn't disagree more about the app being "not at all useful." Just the fact that I can download books from my library to my iPod and read on the go make it (for me) more useful than any other app out there.

I'm also not having problems with crashes like you are. What's causing them?

It might not be crashing for you. When you open it and hit something and it just disappears back to the iphone home screen that makes it frustrating to use. I will patiently wait till there is a fix.

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Jacob Hantla | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 31 2009 1:25 PM

Kevin-

  Honestly, I don't think that Logos ever promised or even insinuated a Logos4 replacement for the iPhone. You can't expect something that is cutting edge and saps the resources of top-of-the-line computers to run on your phone, especially after 2 months of programming. 

The iPhone app offers your portable access to your library with some extra features. More than anything it is a souped up e-reader. ANd for that purpose, it is great! At no cost to us, we get all our books in our pocket. If you really need to do some serious "study" sit down at your computer. If you want to read while not being tied to your computer, iPhone app.

Use them in combo. One doesn't replace the other; rather, they work well together to help us get even more out of our digital library. 

Jacob Hantla
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lostlogik | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 31 2009 1:41 PM

I will also add my voice of discontent. The offline mode does not work for me either. As soon as I select the offline mode and click on the done button, or a few seconds after, the app will crash out to the Home screen. I've tried several books and bibles, all with the same result. I've a 16gb 3GS, with loads of free memory, and Logos 4. I hope this can get sorted, as I was looking forward to offline mode.

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Randy Murphy | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 31 2009 4:44 PM

My ipod touch was doing fine till I updated the app. All my books that downloaded were gone, every time I try to download a book it crashes. It works ok online.

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Russ Holden | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 31 2009 5:12 PM

Once I get to "sixth" -- the orange download arrow -- the app quits. It doesn't make it to message that the book is available offline. It has failed on more than one title. I'm using an iPod Touch (software version 3.2.1) on wifi. I have 52 gigs free.

I'm enjoying reading a book on my iPod. The app is great. I'm looking forward to having a book available offline.

 

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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 31 2009 6:29 PM

I think there is a bug in the program's latest update that may be affecting many of us with crashes. I follow Dave Dunkin on Twitter and he mentioned something about a memory bug. I was frustrated with the app failing on me and was very critical today and then saw how some of the other iphone Bible app users were showing him some support and encouragement and felt convicted for my negativity. So here's to you Logos and Dave for producing what is going to be a great app.  I do feel for you having to deal with Apple's ridiculous app store approval stuff. If I put out a typo on my web site I just update it immediately. If the app store gets a bug that isn't found until its too late then its too late. That must really STINK big time!! And then you have to let it wait till you can fix it and then resubmit it and wait for them to approve which could take days to weeks for no good reason.

Just to offer as others have, I would be happy to bang on a beta version and submit my comments only to you to help out.

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Matt B | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 1 2010 12:18 PM

SWEET! I love that this feature was released as my Christmas Present (64G iPod Touch) arrived!

BUG notice: Summa Theologica English won't copy.

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Steve Brannon | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 1 2010 6:01 PM

OK, perhaps I'm naive, but I though "offline reading" meant that I could read the book without a wireless connection.  Today I discovered that this assumption was wrong.

I was out visiting and had some downtime.  I pulled out my iPod Touch (32GB, latest OpSys) and started reading MacArthur's "Ashamed of the Gospel", which I had previously set to read offline, and I see the little airplane icon on top of the cover art in my Library.  I had no connection, and yet ever page I turned was met with an error message "Error loading book  Logos could not load the specified book".

This is very annoying for two reasons.  First, this is not exactly "offline" reading.  Why "download" a resource if it's then useless?  Second, why do I have to dismiss this error message for every single page that I flip to (I could read additional pages for a while, but eventually reached a completely white screen)?

I hope both of the behaviors are bugs that will be corrected.

Regards,

Steve

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Mike & Rachel Aubrey | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 1 2010 11:36 PM

Steve Brannon:
I was out visiting and had some downtime.  I pulled out my iPod Touch (32GB, latest OpSys) and started reading MacArthur's "Ashamed of the Gospel", which I had previously set to read offline, and I see the little airplane icon on top of the cover art in my Library.  I had no connection, and yet ever page I turned was met with an error message "Error loading book  Logos could not load the specified book".

That sounds like you had a download problem. Try downloading it again and then turn off the wifi.

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Gaylon Crittenden | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 2 2010 6:09 AM

I am having the same issue also.  I just bought a 3G Ipod touch 36 Gig and it will not download any books to use offline.  Every time I turn offline on, within about 15 - 20 seconds I get kicked out of the Logos app.  This sounds like the problem a few other people have posted here.  Maybe it is related to the latest version.  I got the Ipod touch mainly to use the Logos 4 program on the go.  I am sure they will resolve the issue eventually.  Until then I am glad that at the Church I attend they have wifi.

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Steve Brannon | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 2 2010 8:53 AM

Mike Aubrey:

Steve Brannon:
I was out visiting and had some downtime.  I pulled out my iPod Touch (32GB, latest OpSys) and started reading MacArthur's "Ashamed of the Gospel", which I had previously set to read offline, and I see the little airplane icon on top of the cover art in my Library.  I had no connection, and yet ever page I turned was met with an error message "Error loading book  Logos could not load the specified book".

That sounds like you had a download problem. Try downloading it again and then turn off the wifi.

 

I connected, 'downloaded' the KJV (which did not seem to take very long, but the down-arrow icon appeared for a bit, and then the airplane icon) then turned off my WiFi connection (on the iPod, not my router).  I then went back into Logos, dismissed the warnings about not being able to connect, etc.  Then navigated to my library.

The KJV was there, so I clicked on it.  That was met with the error popup "Error loading book... Logos could not load the specified book."  I dismiss that, and there is no KJV but rather another book that I had been reading the last time I was connected.

I cannot access the KJV unless I reconnect to my WiFi.  I continue to wonder how many others are experiencing this problem, and if the Logos team is working on this.

Steve

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 2 2010 8:55 AM

Steve Brannon:

I cannot access the KJV unless I reconnect to my WiFi.  I continue to wonder how many others are experiencing this problem, and if the Logos team is working on this.

Logos said a few days ago that they'd fixed the download problems in a new version (I think 1.2.1) and submitted it to Apple for approval. As of yet, I've not received the update. Have you?

 

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John Fidel | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 2 2010 9:04 AM

Hi Mark,

I received the update here in the US yesterday.

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Rev. Kelly Todd | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 2 2010 9:09 AM

Yes Mark it was available Thursday late or early Friday in the US... it has fixed my problems.

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