Resources for studying Pelagius

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, Dec 12 2014 10:49 PM

I've recently read an article that makes me want to dig deeper into studying Pelagius and some of the newer scholarship on him, possibly rehabilitating him from the label of heresiarch. I found none of these books to be available in Logos, and would be glad to have any of them:

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 13 2014 4:10 AM

Sounds very interesting - with the exception of the last item, which not only doesn't fit your description at all, but is just a couple of pages from here   (the text "in this chapter" made me curious - I think such Kindle books are scams, purposely tricking people into buying something worthless that they don't recognize).

Actually the author writing "the main contrasting positions of the three rival systems of Pelagianism, Semipelagianism, and Augustinianism, or as they are denominated in their more completely developed forms, Socinianism, Arminianism, and Calvinism" gives me the creeps. But this is not for here.

EDIT: since I now see you suggested (even) more works by this author in the Reformed subforum in a similar looking post at around the same time, I think probably this line was a clerical error and the title of the kindle booklet mislead you into pasting the link into the wrong list. 

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 13 2014 1:35 PM

Actually, it was my discovery of this booklet in my Amazon meanderings that led me to realize there were a whole bunch of other (admittedly short) titles by Hodge that were not in Logos, hence the other post. It wasn't a clerical error, though you could argue that this belongs in that other list rather than here. It's probably not that helpful in studying Pelagius today, actually. It just came up in the "books that other people who bought this one bought" list on Amazon, and was by an esteemed author.

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David Ames | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 13 2014 5:43 PM

Rosie Perera:

I've recently read an article that makes me want to dig deeper into studying Pelagius 

Interesting subject.  Thanks for pointing it out.  

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 13 2014 5:57 PM

David Ames:

Rosie Perera:

I've recently read an article that makes me want to dig deeper into studying Pelagius 

Interesting subject.  Thanks for pointing it out.  

The article that got me interested in researching this was William E. Phipps, "The Heresiarch: Pelagius or Augustine?" Anglican Theological Review 62 (1980): 124-33.

I'd gotten into a conversation with a guy from my church who openly calls himself a Pelagian, and I was shocked about that because I've always thought of Pelagianism as a heresy. So I wanted to do a bit of digging. I found a reference to this article in my Logos library in Religious and Theological Abstracts. The abstract of it was intriguing: "For 15 centuries it has been accepted that Augustine is the champion of orthodoxy and Pelagius the heretic. If a heretic is one who departs from the apostles, then Augustine’s doctrine of defiling concupiscence, congenital depravity, imputed regeneration, dual predestination and irresistible grace are farther from Paul than those of Pelagius."

Unfortunately Anglican Theological Review isn't available in Logos, but I found that I had access to it in ATLA via my alumni status at Regent College. So I've read the article and was following up on some resource leads from it and other places when I made these suggestions for further study.

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David Ames | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 14 2014 6:14 AM

Rosie Perera:

"For 15 centuries it has been accepted that Augustine is the champion of orthodoxy and Pelagius the heretic. 

O Great!  Do we now we HAVE to review every 'so called' heretic to see if they really were?

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 14 2014 9:18 AM

David Ames:

O Great!  Do we now we HAVE to review every 'so called' heretic to see if they really were?

[[Most likely not.  We  most likely will be judged by what we were taught and it most likely will be those that taught us that will be held accountable and the rest of us will be given Grace.]] 

I've never found anything in Scripture that says we will be judged by whether we had 100% correct beliefs (other than that we believe in Christ for our salvation). So I'm not too worried about it. Just find it fascinating to explore and discuss.

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Ken McGuire | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 16 2014 4:59 AM

I HAVE NOT READ IT, but a recent dissertation from CUA looks interesting - Reassessing Pelagianism, Augustine, Cassian, and Jerome on the Possibility of a Sinless Life.

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James Hiddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 16 2014 10:25 AM

Thanks for the resources Rosie Yes

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